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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: Kulka » Sat May 14, 2011 9:01 pm

learning kurdish in english for someone who is not english native speaker is double headache - i have to make twice effort :lol: - it is a little bit complicated. i understand it. but the biggest problem i always have when is something like - beeneemeet - i never know who see whom? :lol:
and my other question is - how the word کردنه‌وه‌ works in past tense for all singular and plural?
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PostAuthor: ocmentos » Sat May 14, 2011 9:15 pm

Kulka wrote:learning kurdish in english for someone who is not english native speaker is double headache - i have to make twice effort :lol: - it is a little bit complicated. i understand it. but the biggest problem i always have when is something like - beeneemeet - i never know who see whom? :lol:
and my other question is - how the word کردنه‌وه‌ works in past tense for all singular and plural?

oh and yet you have mastered it so quickly!
beeneemeet is I saw you hhhh It's funny I don't ever need to think about it :D
کردمه‌وه‌ کردته‌وه‌ کردیه‌وه‌ کردمانه‌وه‌ کردتانه‌وه‌ کردیانه‌وه‌ :)

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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: Kulka » Sat May 14, 2011 9:49 pm

thats good that krdnewe is normal world - very positive news. and is any reason that "wistin" - in present tense for plural has the -man, -tan, -yan - while all other words no matter if they are transitive or intransitive has -in, -n, -n? (wistin is generally very interesting word - for example in past it has -de at the beggining, like in present :lol: - i love this language)
by the way - i already memorize half of alphabet - its sensible when we look at the graphic way at that :D - letters which look similiar to each other are next to each other, and dots (under or above) from less to more :D
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PostAuthor: Kulka » Sun May 15, 2011 11:48 am

by the way - one more thing about krdnewe - how it works in past with the noun for example derga krdnewe - is personal endings attached to derga like in all transitive verbs, coz i get confused now.
and second - how the negative is formed in past for transitive and intransitive - i mean personal endings - where we put them for intransitive at the end of verb and for transitive after "ne-"? and specially how to make negative in verbs like hellgrtin, rakirdn, danishtin - for that king of verbs i completly dont know what to do with them to be honest - in past tense
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PostAuthor: ocmentos » Sun May 15, 2011 8:15 pm

thats good that krdnewe is normal world - very positive news. and is any reason that "wistin" - in present tense for plural has the -man, -tan, -yan - while all other words no matter if they are transitive or intransitive has -in, -n, -n? (wistin is generally very interesting word - for example in past it has -de at the beggining, like in present - i love this language)
by the way - i already memorize half of alphabet - its sensible when we look at the graphic way at that - letters which look similiar to each other are next to each other, and dots (under or above) from less to more

well Wist can be used too (min wistim birom) however it has a subtle difference with dem-wist, it cannot be explained very well because English doesn't have that.
however you are correct Wistin is one of the very few irregular verbs that don't follow the rules. for the past it is like the other verbs but for present this is the rule: object+pronoun De+wet ....... (tom dewet) ... but if there is no object; de+pronoun(subject)+e+we+pronoun(object) ..... (demeweyt)
by the way - one more thing about krdnewe - how it works in past with the noun for example derga krdnewe - is personal endings attached to derga like in all transitive verbs, coz i get confused now.
and second - how the negative is formed in past for transitive and intransitive - i mean personal endings - where we put them for intransitive at the end of verb and for transitive after "ne-"? and specially how to make negative in verbs like hellgrtin, rakirdn, danishtin - for that king of verbs i completly dont know what to do with them to be honest - in past tense

the affixes are all considered a seperate entity from the verb derga-kirdnewe ra-kirdin ne-roshtin hell-girtin, ne-hat, de-hat, nede-hat ... they will also be like the case of the object .. hellim-ne-girt nem-girt, hellim-girt ... the first thing that comes the pronouns will be on... dergakem ne-kirdewe - nem-kirdewe :D hhhh it must be confusing, even though for a native speaker it is obvious that it has rules :D it's alright you will get used to it, just keep asking and you will get it right...

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PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon May 16, 2011 7:39 am

mamosta gyan - you have three days off, coz i am working night shifts and sleeping days and i am not able to learn anything, to be honest i am dead after 12 hours and in addition i am very upset with my job today - i am thinking to give up with that (i mean not to be team leader coz the money they pay me for all that job which i am doing - its like i am volunteer there). If i am supposed to work like that for this rubbish money, i prefer to go to Kurdistan and carry plate with tea for people in bazaar - better. so i will be back to study on wednesday evening, when i will get up - have a nice holiday then mamosta gyan :D
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PostAuthor: ocmentos » Mon May 16, 2011 1:23 pm

Kulka wrote:mamosta gyan - you have three days off, coz i am working night shifts and sleeping days and i am not able to learn anything, to be honest i am dead after 12 hours and in addition i am very upset with my job today - i am thinking to give up with that (i mean not to be team leader coz the money they pay me for all that job which i am doing - its like i am volunteer there). If i am supposed to work like that for this rubbish money, i prefer to go to Kurdistan and carry plate with tea for people in bazaar - better. so i will be back to study on wednesday evening, when i will get up - have a nice holiday then mamosta gyan :D

oh lashit sax bet... eshalla :)

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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: Kulka » Mon May 16, 2011 4:12 pm

zor supas - i will need it :D
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PostAuthor: kurdimemin_diako » Tue May 17, 2011 9:07 am

we all need it . hard time to come
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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: Kulka » Tue May 17, 2011 4:42 pm

if you work in my factory kaka gyan - you will need it twice :lol:
last night, so i will be back with my language problems soon :D
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PostAuthor: ocmentos » Tue May 17, 2011 7:53 pm

Kulka wrote:if you work in my factory kaka gyan - you will need it twice :lol:
last night, so i will be back with my language problems soon :D

har sarkawtu bit.. hh your language problems are always welcome :D

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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: Kulka » Wed May 18, 2011 8:23 am

I AM LOOKING FOR A DAY THAT THEY WILL NOT EXIST ANY LONGER :lol: - I KNOW - ITS ETERNITY :lol:
ITS 9.20 IN THE MORNING SO ITS HIGH TIME TO GO TO SLEEP :D

BY THE WAY - HOW WOULD YOU WRITE IN SORANI THE WORD - "MAGNA" (ITS THE NAME OF MY FACTORY)
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PostAuthor: ocmentos » Wed May 18, 2011 12:14 pm

Kulka wrote:I AM LOOKING FOR A DAY THAT THEY WILL NOT EXIST ANY LONGER :lol: - I KNOW - ITS ETERNITY :lol:
ITS 9.20 IN THE MORNING SO ITS HIGH TIME TO GO TO SLEEP :D

BY THE WAY - HOW WOULD YOU WRITE IN SORANI THE WORD - "MAGNA" (ITS THE NAME OF MY FACTORY)

heheh nana don worry one day you will be perfect and look back at this and smile :D" ماگنه‌" most likely but depends if the a are short or long.. write it in Kurdish latini

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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: Kulka » Wed May 18, 2011 8:29 pm

i have no idea in latini (kurdish) - in english is one kind of "a" - but there is positive thing - i wrote it the same you and one of my brothers - from slemanyi - correct it to مه‌گنا - which i told him i dont agree with, coz in fact the accent should be on 'ma", not on last "a". :D any way i work in:

شاری یاری کارگه‌ی ماگنه‌

and you know what? the same brother sent one philipinian or i dont know what nationality - girl to my facebook account and asked me to teach her kurdish language :lol: - my lovely brother Kamaran has a special sense of humor.

i think i know why chwar salli rabrduu cant be "ago", but mean "past 4 years" - i was thinking about it one night when i went to bed. i think its the matter of izafa attached to "sall", which makes it like that.
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Re: Kubani bem in sorani?

PostAuthor: ocmentos » Wed May 18, 2011 9:06 pm

heheh well I guess you outsmarted him :D but in his defense I also just guessed that the first "a" is long.. :D
i think i know why chwar salli rabrduu cant be "ago", but mean "past 4 years" - i was thinking about it one night when i went to bed. i think its the matter of izafa attached to "sall", which makes it like that.
you are very smart that is 100% true :) izafa is Arabic, in Kurdish it is Amrazi danepall or xistneser... yes the amraz makes the rabirdu an adjective not an adverb :)

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