Long live for President Apo and death for a free Kurdistan
The court of Silêmanî condemned seven men for the assassination of Kemalê Sor aka Kemal Shahin, a former member of the PKK, who fled the Party and founded a political party for Western Kurds : 2 facts that were considered as a crime by the PKK and were a reason to register his name in the Black List.
The seven assassins were condemned to life imprisonment .
According to the Kurdish newspaper Midyam (via Kurdmedia.com), by hearing the sentence, the seven men sang : “Long live PKK, long live Serok Apo !”
Then things are clear. While the PKK denied any kind of involement in the murder of Kani Yilmaz and his assitant, accusing “internal fightgs”, or “Turks” or CIA or MOSSAD ??? The attitude of these murderers is wonderfully unequivocal. If the next year Kani Yimaz and Sabri Torin’s murderers are arrested, will they sing “Bijî Serok Apo, bijî PKK” or “Long live to Turkey ?” It’s anyone’s guess !
But concerning Kemalê Sor ’s case, Murat Karayilan could not reply easily : “No, not our gang, just internal quarrels” considering the acitivist enthusiasm of his Death squadron. In fact, as any totalitarian organisation, the PKK will have more Kurdish blood on its hands than Turkish’s.
But it’s a fatal and “internal” (a term that Karayilan seems to like) logic that a totalitarian party aims always to eliminate opponents among its own people or group, rather than the “official” and foreign ennemy, with which a “collaboration” could be more profitable (here the pro-war Turkish circles).
Then Long Live to President Apo and death for freedom, a free Kurdistan seems still to be out of the “Right Line and Path” of this party. For a Kurdistan where speech and people are free would toll the bell for the PKK. At a such step of decay, the party has only the choice to disappear, decline or trying desperately to last by crushing all kind of opposition around itself. With a single objective : its own survival, to the detriment of everything else.
This is clearly a provocation of the feudal state of southern kurdistan, tool of the americains, A.K.A “second israel” for Apo. Anyway the tribal chiefs Barzani and Talabani have proved by the past how they were against a scientific resolution of the kurdish struggle led by Baskan Apo.
Ain’t I right Heval?
Comment by tomjez — February 23, 2006 @ 3:45 am
And I insult a noble cause, a noble leader, and so noble killers… etc., etc., ad libitum…
we know the song !
Comment by piling — February 23, 2006 @ 6:41 am
This kind propaganda is made by Kurdish enemy, while no doubt that PKK have doe some many mistake ,but Pkk is party who united the nation ,clearly some traitors who even call themselves pkk members misinterpret and misjudged the Mr. Ocalan ideology .while he captive the Pkk council in great this array and perhaps there is members who justify to do ,what they think is right, one thing to be assured that the crime and killing of Kurdish patriot by traitors will be answered and will be punished, make no mistake, futher make no mistake that PKK is Kurdistani party and is duty of any Kurds to involved to help party democratization in this very difficult period of time.
Mr Tomjez, your comment is stupid and sound like Turkish brainless so called leftwing, the president of southern Kurdistan president Barzani have clearly told turkey and American as well as well whole world that Kurds will never fight Kurds, those old days is over and he ask president Bush during his visit that turkey should recognize and reconcile with Kurds and create amnesty therefore he will bring our guerillas(peshmerges) home. He never call PKK terrorist ,,etc..
therefore you Mr Tomjez calling southern Kurdistan feudal or second Israel, which clearly sound you not Kurdish at all but perhaps a Turk or Arab camel. No wonder whole Islamism countries have been calling Kurdistan second Israel. Kurdish poepls United more than ever , while w having diffcult time we must have dialoge and communication between each other, those who make different lines between any part of Kurdistan is no longer Kurdish and shall be doomed , the proud of median(kurdistani ) race once again which happen 2618 yrs ago is near folks!! just stay tune!!
Comment by diyako — February 23, 2006 @ 9:04 am
“one thing to be assured that the crime and killing of Kurdish patriot by traitors will be answered and will be punished”
And of course it is the PKK according to its leader’s divine wisdom, which decides who is a traitor and who is a patriot : very simple, Traitors are against the PKK, Patriots are Apocî, that’s all !
Comment by piling — February 23, 2006 @ 9:25 am
“therefore you Mr Tomjez calling southern Kurdistan feudal or second Israel, which clearly sound you not Kurdish at all but perhaps a Turk or Arab camel. No wonder whole Islamism countries have been calling Kurdistan second Israel.”
Are you dumb? I was imitating a PKK member. APO HIMSELF CALL SOUTH KURDISTAN A SECOND ISRAEL and its leaders FEUDAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was making fun of it, this is the kind of stuff “hejar” write every day in his comments!
Comment by tomjez — February 23, 2006 @ 9:36 am
tOMJZ i applogies,however apo never say that , kurdistan as scound israel, the poepls who saying that was so called his lawyers which been organised by turkish MIT, to distroy kurdistan struggle and unity.
Comment by diyako — February 23, 2006 @ 10:42 am
An impossible pair of kurdofobs!
Comment by hejar — February 23, 2006 @ 11:12 am
yes it is extracted from an interview with his lawyers. And yes I believe it is organized by MIT, but I think Apo is willingly collaborating. If he was forced to collaborate to “destroy kurdistan struggle” as he is currently doing, he would, as great kurdish hero commit an honorable suicide (like a lot of imprisoned kurdish fighters did after ligthing a match for Newroz for exemple).
But history proved Apo was hostile to every other kurdish party, and everybody knows that he fought KDP and PUK to try to conquer south kurdistan. This is no propaganda, but facts, I mean it was an official policy of PKK to fight southern kurdish parties, just read my article on the “beritan line”….
appologies accepted!
Comment by tomjez — February 23, 2006 @ 11:58 am
tomjez, i agree in some point you mention, put allow me give you good example, rember during Nato war on Yugoslavia, whne Kosovo leader ibrahim regovof(maybe wrong spell)) visit Belgrade, they kept him only for couple days and he come in public TV in Belgrade totally reject Kosovo independent and say we wan be ruled by Serbian. well my point is the circumstance around Apo is hard to imagine, the psychology the Turkish army machine , also let be frank, if they hold Telabani in captive for even 24 hrs he may scream and say ohh my father is Arab ,,blajh blah..i am sorry i just give example of phonologically our political leaders ..the people who visiting Apo they even make him hopless,for example when he ask something about development in southern Kurdistan or anywhere in Kurdistan they always give him wrong knowledge, this Turkish policy to control Apo, one thing i am totally agree is that when he captured,pKK leadership should not follow what is coming out from Imrali prison. Following that path is destruction.
Comment by diyako — February 23, 2006 @ 8:24 pm
We agree on that point (wrong to follow this path), but I sincerely think he is sincerely opposed to a fee south kurdistan. Why? Because he won’t be “the kurdish leader” anymore, just a guy who totally failed.
He was opposed to Barzani and talabani since the beginning of the 90’s, much before his capture…
Comment by tomjez — February 24, 2006 @ 4:18 am
hmm
Comment by CMAR II — February 25, 2006 @ 11:11 am
Someone asked these people if they were dumb. The people in question are those so comfarably speaking so well of Mr. Ocalan. The Mr. Ocalan that is now helped by the Turkish state to keep upp the appearances. A well-done hamburger, thank you.´
- Ham? Isn’t that like pig?
- Yes, but this pig is a friend.
- A friend of whom?
-Yours.
-Oh, I’ll have one then please. I trust you. I am stupid.
–
Never mind the Arabs’ bullshit about the pig and never mind the stupidity in trusting the Turks.
What hurts most is when a Kurd is not able to see Mr. Ocalan is running the affairs of the Turkish state. Mr. Ocalan is an agent of the Turkish state. Well, an agent is just a water-boy. Mr. Ocalan is more than a water-boy. He is a valuable asset of the Turkiosh state. He needed 30 years to get through to the Kurds (in North, but stupidity is never limited to one direction) and he has been able to enslave a number of people. The lack of true Kurdish resistance, in addition to the very suspect Roj-TV, makes the voice of Ocalan very loud. This is in accordance to the wishes of the Turkish state. Mr Ocalan equals Kurdish death. But in an age of stupidity, the simpliest truth can be harder to comprehend then, I don’t know,some complex formula about whatever.
Whenever you see someone defending the Turkish state (in whatever way), remember that you are looking at an idiot. That is if he is a Kurd. A non-kurd doing the same is an enemy.
Comment by Soro Derwêş — March 10, 2006 @ 7:30 pm
biji serok APO
Comment by fadıl — March 25, 2006 @ 4:44 am
BİJİ SEROK APO ÖZLEMİM DAĞLARDIR AŞKIM ÖLÜMÜNEDİR
Comment by fadıl — March 25, 2006 @ 4:45 am
Bi rastî, zimanê Apociyan tirkî ye, ne ?
Û ala hevalan jî tirkî ye ?
Comment by piling — March 25, 2006 @ 1:34 pm
It is none of your buisness to put your ugly nose in kurdish affairs.
Stop this animosity, there is a conflict of interest here, to be employed by a so called kurdish cultural institute and on a none stop basis spread slander against the most devoted and democratic movement of Kurdish people !
Hejar
Comment by Hejar — March 27, 2006 @ 6:57 am
It is none of your buisness to put your ugly nose in kurdish affairs.
Stop this animosity, there is a conflict of interest here, to be employed by a so called kurdish cultural institute and on a none stop basis spread slander against the most devoted and democratic movement of Kurdish people !
Hejar
Comment by Hejar — March 27, 2006 @ 6:57 am
It is none of your buisness to put your ugly nose in kurdish affairs.
Stop this animosity, there is a conflict of interest here, to be employed by a so called kurdish cultural institute and on a none stop basis spread slander against the most devoted and democratic movement of Kurdish people !
Hejar
Comment by Hejar — March 27, 2006 @ 6:57 am
“the most devoted and democratic movement of Kurdish people !”
You are so comic, that I think you could be a fake
Comment by piling — March 27, 2006 @ 8:53 am
You are a fake ! You were a fake before coming to the earth !
Stop your anty kurd, fascist propaganda.
Hands off the kurdish people !
Simply shut up!
Comment by Hejar — March 27, 2006 @ 9:49 am
Heval it is MY blog here then i will write and speak as so long as I wish. And what are you going to do against that, dumby ?
Comment by piling — March 27, 2006 @ 10:26 am
What I told you was stop attacking kurdish people.
Allegedly you speak kurdish, we have an expression for people like you, we call them NANKOR, because you are employed by A kurdish institute and waste all your energy by
attacking PKK. It is not fair , The kurds have enough foes,
Just listen to the propaganda of so called nation-states,
such as Turkey, Iran , Syria and elswhere. Come to your senses !
HEJAR
Comment by Hejar — March 28, 2006 @ 11:54 am
But PKK is the first servant of Turkey, open your eyes…
Comment by piling — March 29, 2006 @ 2:07 am
Whish side are you for now in Amed ?
Comment by Hejar — March 30, 2006 @ 3:30 pm
Answer the question !
Which side are you for now in AMED ?
Comment by Hejar — March 30, 2006 @ 11:59 pm
I am agains the rioters. They are stupid. They only serve Öcalan and Turkish pro-war people. And most of KURDISH shops which had been plundered had been just because they refuse to obey to the terror of the PKK.
I agree with Baydemir when he calls people to stay quiet
But you could call Baydemir a traitor, I suppose. For a “heval” a clever man is always a traitor.
Comment by piling — March 31, 2006 @ 1:45 am
You are a senseless person. The turkish thugs so called
“security forces” are killing innocent kurdish children, and
you call them rioters.
enough is enough you………
Comment by Hejar — March 31, 2006 @ 3:17 pm
Oh chicken if you want to debate, go on the forum and exchange your point of view with different people on that question of riots, whis is an interesting debate, between, Kurds or not, Pro PKK or not, pro riots or not. For the moment you only sing your eternal single song there, like a monomaniac Donald Duck… Are you afraid of other Kurds’ opinions ?
Comment by Piling — March 31, 2006 @ 3:27 pm
No chicken , Kurds are not bowing to oppression
It is better for you to keep distance from our cause.
Wether you like it or not you are on the line with kurdish
oppresers. SO I recommend you to chose another topic
for wasting your time.
When we are facing up the faschists in Kurdistan streets
you must be damned blind not to see that.
Comment by Hejar — April 2, 2006 @ 8:23 am
“It is better for you to keep distance from our cause.”
Be sure I have nothing to do with Apo’s cause, don’t worry
As I have been never afraid by this party of cowards, tss…
Comment by piling — April 2, 2006 @ 10:25 am
See How we penetrate you (r)anti kurdish , anti human rubish
word mongering !
Comment by Hejar — April 4, 2006 @ 5:34 am
Are all of you Kurds blind? I cannot believe all of you are so ignorant. I am ashamed of you all. All of the facts are in your face. Ocalan is a coward dictator just like saddam and look where both of them are. Now Ocalan is co-operating with the Turks and basically, PKK is run by fascist turkey. Did you hear or see the acts done by PKK in Newroz? Soro Derwêş and piling, I respect both of you and the rest of you should get better educated. How could have Ocalan survived for so long? The idiot is selling us out and we should forget about him. By the way, peshmerge and guerilla is not the same. Guerilla is a group of terrorist Kurds and they do not even understand that they aren’t helping our race. They kill Turkish soldiers; Turkish soldiers attack a Kurdish village once they cannot find the PKKs…. This is a 16 year old kid writing and it’s sad to see that I am one of the very small amounts of Northern Kurds who has his head straight. (repost from http://northerniraq.info/blog/?p=56)
Comment by Rojhat Ezidi — April 12, 2006 @ 5:52 pm
apo serbest biraking
Comment by mesut — April 29, 2006 @ 3:29 am
rojBas Sarok APO
rojBas kurdistan &garile
slav ji gale kurd & kurdistan galak swpas
AliRoj
Comment by AliRoj — May 10, 2006 @ 12:53 am
hi!evry body
i can see some of anti kurd on this site and i just laugh to them
they always want to insalt kurdish people but they fucked up now they dont relise all kurdish puplic woke up and can see all the trues.
please get off your dirty hands from kurdish people and go to wank yourself
Comment by hewal — June 20, 2006 @ 1:42 pm
This is site of huge shame. The owner of this blogg is the greatest shameless writer, if you could call him that but in reality he does not deserve to be called a writer. He is here by only one reason. He is even not worth to be commented. Why do we spend our precious words on this site? Gold would be saved in a cleaner package than these garbage boards! However I do not think he is so old, this pore young guy. Using a language like this is done only by teenagers. By fact that you’re speaking about the rights of beeing afraid of other Kurdish opinions than the PKK:s, these fact would also shine back on you now. Your methuds are so stupid, even You have to respect the part of your Kurdish community, if you now are Kurdish which I do not believe, which agrea the PKK and Öcalan and see him as their hierow!! If they are only a small group including 10 persons or if they are a huge group including 40 milions, it does not matter at all. Respect and accept that and do not try to provocate them. If not, You’re still a child. Write on your blogg later!!!
Comment by Elinia 2000 — June 30, 2006 @ 6:13 am