Pictures of Kurdish leaders

[freekurd2013]

new one صورة جديدة

[Anthea]

10 leaders one traitor to the Kurdish cause

[Anthea]

Good to see you safe and well freeKurd

[Piling]

tttt you forgot this one :



You can put him in place of Öcalan

[Anthea]

Kindly piss off. Thank you.

SORRY I realise that English is NOT your first language so allow me to enlighten you

The Oxford English Dictionary is the definitive record of English Language in the ENTIRE WORLD

Oxford English Dictionary Definition of the word TRAITOR:

One who betrays any person that trusts him, or any duty entrusted to him; a betrayer.

KurdInEurope if YOU think that your knowledge of the English is better than that of the
Oxford English Dictionary, please feel free to contact them and voice you opinion

[Anthea]

[Anthea]

Dr Jawad Mella

[Anthea]

Kindly piss off. Thank you

I like how you were a supporter of Ocalan, but as soon as Piling the mighty expert on Kurds gave her opinion of him, then suddenly you changed your opinion right after. Do you know what I call those who do that?

I can be just as rude and childish.

I do NOT believe that I have ever made any personal attacks against any members of this forum

You started by telling me to "Kindly piss off" so I am assuming that you are actually TURKISH because I have NEVER been insulted by a Kurd in all of the 30 years that I have had Kurdish friends

The other reason I have for believing you to be Turkish is that you do not appear particularly perturbed by the fact that so many THOUSANDS of Kurds have died for nothing

As for my following Piling, not a bad idea because she is obviously a great deal more intelligent and knowledgeable than you are. But I am well able to read FACTS for myself unlike YOU who tend to ignore FACTS

I do NOT believe that I have ever made any personal attacks against any members of this forum

Everyone knows that if anyone ever wants to achieve anything one has to negotiate from a position of power. At the end of World War 11, did England and America give their weapons to Germany saying "We have won, here are our weapon, now we will discuss your surrender?"

Think of ALL the conflicts worldwide that there have ever been, which group or country achieved success by being the first to give up their weapons or positions of power ?

Ocalan is at best an out of touch uninformed old gentleman, after his 14 years imprisonment, or worse either a puppet of the Turkish government or a stand-in for the real Ocalan.

Ocalan was a brilliant charismatic leader and Kurds believed that he would give them FREEDOM

Since Ocalan has been in prison Ocalan has changed. I doubt that anyone believes Ocalan actually thinks and acts as he did prior to his capture. It is an opinion I have given a great many times. I believe that he has either been brainwashed or replaced by a double.

I have NEVER insulted the brave fighters of the PKK. A great many times I have mentioned the fact that I have friends who gave up everything, all their friends and relations, their entire way of life, to join the PKK and fight for an Independent Kurdistan. However, if you think that TRAITOR is the wrong word for the man who has betrayed the trust that my friends, and THOUSANDS of other Kurds placed in Ocalan, you are welcome to make your own suggestions

Nizamettin Tas, Shahnaz Altun and Osman Ocalan were among a great many other high ranking members of the PKK who have voiced serious criticism of Abdullah Ocalan. And all three of them have savagely condemned Abdullah Ocalan, who they accused of having given up the PKK's historical goal of the Independence of Kurdistan, after his capture in February 1999. So I am obviously in extremely good company

[FeyliKurd]

10 leaders one traitor to the Kurdish cause

Who's the traitor?

[thesunchild]

Sometimes I don’t agree with the political views of APO, but that’s normal because we’re 2 different individuals

But for APO and PKK I will always make a place in my heart. APO and PKK killed more Altaic Turks than any other Kurdish leader ever.

Only for that he will be forever a LEGEND in Kurdistan!

[thesunchild]

Every non-Kurd that dares to criticize APO should start to criticize his/her own government first that’s helping our enemies (Arabs, Turks and Persians) in oppressing the Kurds.

[freekurd2013]

Every non-Kurd

You are not a Kurd

if i knew english so well
i would say so many things about ..................etc
ANTHEA, PILLING THANK U

[Anthea]

You made personal attacks against Apo.

Since when has stating a FACT been an insult? We ALL know that Ocalan has changed since he imprisonment. Kurds left there families and friends in their thousands to join the PKK and fight for FREEDOM. Since Ocalan has been in prison he no longer talks of Independence. Whether you like it or not that is an undeniable FACT.

You need to know your place. You are not a Kurd - you should not insult our leaders on a KURDISH forum.

I think that should you look at all my post I have NOT insulted a single Kurdish leader. I have even posted information and pictures of Kurdish leaders who most other people seem to have forgotten

Well, not really a Kurdish forum anymore. Just more of a home for non-Kurds who likes to mock Kurds and think that they're experts on the Middle East. What are you doing here really? Your people divided my people and are still working against my people, therefore, I told you to piss off, which is more of an instruction than an insult. Instead of mocking Kurds, play with fonts and emoticons as much as you like to.

Seeing you like my smilies so much here is one just for you

I've noticed, that anyone who says something against you, you label them as Turkish.

True because Kurds generally look at facts before they open their mouths and put their feet in it. Kurds who I know are extremely concerned by Ocalan's change in attitude and change of direction. Also, like myself, many of my friends have had friends who have joined the PKK to fight for freedom. Now that Ocalan has taken that freedom away some of my friends will have died for NOTHING.

I label you as a British agent of possibly Turkish origin working against my people. Accusations are easy. You have no right to judge me, or any other Kurd.

I have a name. I am a real person. I am NOT hiding like most of the people here because I have nothing to be ashamed off.

Is it not logical that you wouldn't be insulted by your Kurdish friends. Lol. Wait, let me use one of your smilies:

I only speak and write the truth

Obviously, you do not know how the politics of Middle East works. Just like HzKurdi said. Honestly, do you believe that PKK will retreat? Yes, you do, by this I know you don't know a damn thing of Middle East, nor PKK.

You seem to be contradicting yourself with your opinions? If I write that Ocalan is wrong because he has changed from wanting Kurds to have a FREE KURDISTAN to asking them to disarm and leave Turkey, I am accused of insulting him. Yet you seem to be saying that the PKK will not listen to Ocalan and retreat. VERY INTERESTING

Do you know me on a personal level? No, so stop speaking on my behalf. I don't need a non-Kurd to tell me that I do not feel any perturbation for my own people, or that I don't know anything of my own people. Thank you.

Much as I HATE to admit it, I like the way you stand up for yourself. YOU would make a GOOD LEADER.

[freekurd2013]

We ALL know that Ocalan has changed since he imprisonment. Kurds left there families and friends in their thousands to join the PKK and fight for FREEDOM. Since Ocalan has been in prison he no longer talks of Independence. Whether you like it or not that is an undeniable FACT.

While my brother was imprisoned in the Palestine Branch (one of the worst Syrian prisons) because he was a member of the PKK Ocalan was eating and drinking with Hafez al-Assad in Damascus
You have to read more about Syrian Kurds and the relationship between Ocalan and the Assad regime
بينما كان اخي مسجونا في فرع فلسطين(احد اسوأ السجون السورية) لأنه كان عضوا في ال ب ك ك كان اوجلان يأكل و يشرب مع حافظ الأسد في دمشق
عليكم ان تقرؤا المزيد عن الكورد السوريين وعلاقة أوجلان بنظام الأسد

[Piling]

Well, it is not a surprise, that you and Piling fall for it and often use Turkish sources.

No, only Kurdish's. I don't read Turkish.

Moreover, be careful with Turks : Öcalan could state soon that Kurds and Turks are eternal brothers bla bla bla. Si you'll be out of the LINE'.