Kulka ban

[jjmuneer]

Now this topic will probably be closed by the Mod, and quite right since it is an "outrage that Kulka should be un-ban". Because when someone is offended, a perm ban is approiatate.

Firstly I think its clear even Kak Ideas doesn't know why she was ban. Kak Talsor probably mentioned her being rude over PM, when there is no evidence to suggest otherwise.

Secondly It should be noted that Kak Ideas hasn't un-ban her, as she has told us.

Thirdly Whatever Kulka supposedly has done "wrong", I'm certain she has done more than all of us put together on this forum for Kurdistan. Most people here either worship Israel and support cultural liberalism, which will cause the future destruction of Kurdish culture. Or just report anything that is "offensive".

So I'm appealing to the Mod to actually un-ban here and actually let her explain herself to you; considering she can't even explain herself.

Ok I'm done.

[RawandKurdistani]

Wait is she banned! Wtf, this is a kurdish forum, and no kurd should be banned, why not ban our enemies trolling on this forum instead?

[diako_ber]

I agree with jjmuneer, she has contributed a lot to this forum and I don't think it is appropriate to permanently ban her. I have contacted the mod as well about this case, and I think that, if Kulka has offended someone, she should be given a 2nd chance here.

[purearch72]

I am kulka ( kidding), but it sucks to ban a Kurd ( I think) on a KURDISH forum.

[brendar]

I never knew about that! How can a patriotic kurd like Kulka xan be banned???? This is a Kurdish website, we can criticize everyone from God to prophet to every Kurd. We are Kurds, we are not Mulla's. Kulka xan or any other Kurd can say his/her opinion about any-related kurdish matters even if it is offensive.

[RawandKurdistani]

It's rather sad to see a kurd being banned on a kurdish forum, and i thought this was the place kurds could have the freedom of speech, guess i was wrong. This forum has banned more kurds than enemies.

[Kurdistano]

Thirdly Whatever Kulka supposedly has done "wrong", I'm certain she has done more than all of us put together on this forum for Kurdistan. Most people here either worship Israel and support cultural liberalism, which will cause the future destruction of Kurdish culture. Or just report anything that is "offensive".

God what is wrong with you JJmuneer? Do you need to have mention in any thread the West, Israel and how you oppose libersalism like an old fashion white supremacist. You are turning into the Russian version of crazyhorse. You are verbally attacking your Kurdish brothers because of foreign countries, is that right? As if having economic ties with the West will make us cultural liberals and only Russia "can save us" from it . Since when is it against the rules to be an Israel supporter? But shout after every comment "RUSSIA" as if they are something special. If you have opened a thread to discuss about Kulka ban than please refrain from making statements like these which have nothing to do with Kulka and just offensive against other users. Who are you to call other people "Israel worshipers"?

The future destruction would be caused by people like you who have not learned from history and still make the mistake and rely on a foreign country. You are making exactly the same mistake of the past, Mahabad republic and first Gulf War, when we relied on other countries. Russia is a great economic partner and we should have stronger economic ties with them but only relying on them is very destructive and risky at the same time.

[Kurdistano]

And now about the Kulka ban. I dont know what she has done but I think she should be given a second chance.

[ideas]

First of all I'm not a moderator anymore, and secondly I do know why she was banned via a leghny PM sent to me by Kak Talsor. Before I even inquired about it both Kak talsor and Kak Dyako agreed that the ban was fair.

I myself reviewed the PM and found that the ban was fair. I do respect Kulka and she knows that. Members here are too emotional sometimes which is why Kak dyako decided that he will take on the moderator rule himself.

[jjmuneer]

Thirdly Whatever Kulka supposedly has done "wrong", I'm certain she has done more than all of us put together on this forum for Kurdistan. Most people here either worship Israel and support cultural liberalism, which will cause the future destruction of Kurdish culture. Or just report anything that is "offensive".

God what is wrong with you JJmuneer? Do you need to have mention in any thread the West, Israel and how you oppose libersalism like an old fashion white supremacist. You are turning into the Russian version of crazyhorse. You are verbally attacking your Kurdish brothers because of foreign countries, is that right? As if having economic ties with the West will make us cultural liberals and only Russia "can save us" from it . Since when is it against the rules to be an Israel supporter? But shout after every comment "RUSSIA" as if they are something special. If you have opened a thread to discuss about Kulka ban than please refrain from making statements like these which have nothing to do with Kulka and just offensive against other users. Who are you to call other people "Israel worshipers"?

The future destruction would be caused by people like you who have not learned from history and still make the mistake and rely on a foreign country. You are making exactly the same mistake of the past, Mahabad republic and first Gulf War, when we relied on other countries. Russia is a great economic partner and we should have stronger economic ties with them but only relying on them is very destructive and risky at the same time.

You don't oppose cultural liberalism? If you don't, I can say hand on heart and to God himself that you cannot call yourself a nationalist. Because I know you live in Germany, but Germany isn't as bad as Britain or even America, there they have all lost the respect for their culture and heritage.

I'm not opposed to economic ties with the west, nor did I say "we should depend upon Russia" as you state. Its just some members here,(Not naming anyone) get really hurt when Israel is critisized. I mean I thought I might do the same for Russia then, its only fair isn't it? J/K but on a serious note I'm just saying Russia is a better path to go down than Israel and the USA. Do you not agree?

This actually links with Kulka alot, because Talsor and Ideas are cultural liberalists, and nor can they deny it as such. Why do you think Kak Alan doesn't want to be here? Azamat? Hell there are probably more members, who just won't say, but they feel the forum is being "tamperered" with.

Anyway what is the point of saying free speech when people get critisized, we might aswell live in Suadi Arabia or something.

[jjmuneer]

This is what Kulka sent me:

"Just make it public for what particular i was banned - peiople has the right to know (they should have the right to know who is banned as well, so we all can see that only Kurds are banned on RBK and never enemies, even if talking bad way about Kurdistan and isulting members). If message to talsor: "Live me alone once and forever, you are the man of no honour and no shame" is enough to ban me - so i demand to ban Cewlik for PM to me: "you are a piece of bullshit". I demand heval Ideas to be banned for insulting heval Aram family some time ago on the public in forum (i respect you heval Ideas, and i think you know that). I demand to ban 90% of other members who did use much worse words then i use in my PM to talsor. Is it fair enough?
Plus i am asking why never any enemy has been banned for offending Kurdistan and members here? If my ban was fair - so their non-ban was fair as well, as i understand? No i dont want to post on this forum and now i am not fighting for my personal reason. I am fighting now for justice, coz talsor put the knife into my back, when i was turned round. Is he turk - other enemy - that he did that to me? Am i turk or other enemy that he did that to me? Did i insult Kurdistan on the forum? Did i swear at any member? The only one thing that i lost by banning is not posting, i lost contact with my people, with members of my family - as a lot of them can confirm that we were in PM contact, we disscussed, we helped each other - i lost it. Thanks to some "Kurds". But no matter how much some people will try - nobody never tear me apart from my country and my people - i will find a way to be in contact with them. I am not leaving you, hevals - even if they dont let me to be in contact with you - you are in my mind and in my heart. And dont give up, keep fighting for Kurdistan - i promise you, that we will win the freedom and independence. Satkawtn."
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[talsor]

Heval JJmuneer
I did my best not to reply to this post , but your crusader is forcing to shed some light on the issue . Although I do not have to explain my action to any member except Heval dyaoko , I did have a discussion with several members including you who sent email inquiring about the issue and I think I made it clear to anyone who asked the reason for Kulka's ban .

It is not in my nature to take thing personally especially on line but every thing has its limits . The forum has rules and I did my best so far to follow these rules even when it upset some members .

Kulka is not a member of roj bash . As a matter of fact she personally requested all her posts to be deleted on several emails to me . I informed her that I can not do that since she has more that 2000 posts , So she started deleting herself (replacing the post with dots ....) which frankly ruined every thread and it violate forum's rule because the posts are considered the property of Roj bash . I did talk to her on several occasion trying to calm her down , but all my attempts failed . In fact it made her more angry and accused me of taking sides .

This all started when a member (kurd-sthanam) hinted to the fact that she is not of Kurdish origin . The language that she used constitute a ban or a warning at least , but I still did not do it and tried to calm her down without success and she insisted that the person should be bannd which I refused thus I became the bad guy .

She decided later that she is leaving the site for good and I could not change her mind and I will be happy to provide you or anyone interested with her very interesting volgur emails .

one sept 15 she poste this on twitter which frankly attacks roj bash directly and I was very upset about it .

[color=#0000FF]kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
this forum ("kurdish", hmmmm...) index.php … promotes holiday in turkya. Shame on Kurds again! #twitterkurds
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subsequently Heval Alan made a post about indicating that it is Kulka who is saying that .
here is the thread
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10136

My reply in the thread was as following and feel free to check the thread .

talsor wrote:
RBK have no control over what Google advertise nor it is associated with any political party or organization that support it financially . If you are willing to pay for site maintained and make regular donation then the problem is solved . Other wise we have to live in reality , because no matter what add company you work with there will be some adds related to turkey , Iraq , Iran or syria . I do not like it either nor do I support it , but I certainly understand the business decision .

As for Kulka Xan , I think she should spend more time contributing to the site instead of deleting her posts after all these years which is really childish and sad . She should be spending less time monitoring and weighing every single words being said on the site then come with a load of insults once in a while .

miniuts later I recieved this email from kulka .
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Kulka replies
I already told you - leave me alone once and forever, but you use any occasion to do shit to me. you have no shame and no honour.


I informed her that she does not have the right to insult me or talk to me this way and if she insist I will ban her for good . By the way this was not the first time she insult me directly and I have the emails to prove it .

Then she goes on twitter and writes this .

kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
@Talsor1 - coward with no balls and no honour


kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
on index.php you can insult Kurds as much as you wish, but if you criticize turkish you will be banned by @Talsor1 #twitterkurds


kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
@Talsor1 I have to keep insults coming, to fullfil your false accuse that i am"coming with the load of insults"


kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
@Talsor1 I wonder where you get your mod lessons? from Facebook? Or from arabs and turkish websites? they use such a methods to treat users


kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
@Talsor1 you are two faces coward with double standard, you are not real man


kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
@Talsor1 Go with Barzani to AKP congress, turks will give you the training in oppressing and persecuting Kurds, you will do your job better


@Talsor1 you should work for Barzani asayish - he loves to use guys like you against the people

kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
on index.php … you can insult Kurds as much as you wish, but if you criticize turkish you will be banned by @Talsor1 #twitterkurds

She also accuses me on twitter for calling a Kurdish women on youtube "qhpa" . Well I'm sorry , but a woman who call our peshmerga " out out militia " and " KRG is terrorist " is most definitly Qhpa and I stand by what I said . see below

kulka kurdish ‏@KulkaKurdish
@RWaladbaigi do u know if u r against Barzani & if u would be woman - u would be called "qahba" by some people, like @Talsor1 for example?

I understand she is a woman/pro kurdish , but that does not gives right to act the way she acted . I did talk to you JJmuneer and told you that if she want her ban to be removed she should contact me directly and explain herself , but she did not and all she does is acting like a victim and emailing other members about the so called injustice .

Up to date I did not reply to her insults because I do not want to be dragged to such level .Now if Attacking Roj Bash , Violating the rules , Deleting posts , insulting the mod multiple times does not constitute a ban then you are in the wrong forum .

I did talk at length with heval Dyaoko about the issue and he is in agreement with me . Kak Ideas asked me about it too , so seee his post above . This topic is closed and if anyone has an issue with any decisions being made by the mod or the owner of the site they should use PM to inquire about the issue instead of making a thread about it and I think I have mentioned that multiple times .

[Kurdistano]

You don't oppose cultural liberalism? If you don't, I can say hand on heart and to God himself that you cannot call yourself a nationalist. Because I know you live in Germany, but Germany isn't as bad as Britain or even America, there they have all lost the respect for their culture and heritage.

You are interpreting things into my comment which I clearly didnt stated.

You think the West will bring cultural liberalism to Kurdistan and Russia is the only one which can save us from it? Dude seriously this is so out of common sense that I cant take it serious. You are anti cultural liberalism and think Russia, a multi cultural country which is one of the biggest sources of prostitution can save us from cultural liberalism.

[jjmuneer]

You don't oppose cultural liberalism? If you don't, I can say hand on heart and to God himself that you cannot call yourself a nationalist. Because I know you live in Germany, but Germany isn't as bad as Britain or even America, there they have all lost the respect for their culture and heritage.

You are interpreting things into my comment which I clearly didnt stated.

You think the West will bring cultural liberalism to Kurdistan and Russia is the only one which can save us from it? Dude seriously this is so out of common sense that I cant take it serious. You are anti cultural liberalism and think Russia, a multi cultural country which is one of the biggest sources of prostitution can save us from cultural liberalism.

When did I state Russia will save us?
Anyway Russia is "mutli-ethnic country", but it isn't multucultural in the political sense. It doesn't promote mixing of culture, and ethnic Russians want to change that.
Anways you can't just critisize me because I said one thing, now stop putting words into my mount, because the more you do that, the more I'll return the favour.

[Kurdistano]

When did I state Russia will save us?

Please bro you have stated several times that Russia is the only "real ally" of Kurdistan and now again you ask me where you did state it?

Anyway Russia is "mutli-ethnic country", but it isn't multucultural in the political sense. It doesn't promote mixing of culture, and ethnic Russians want to change that.

You were obviously never in Russia nor do you know many Russians. Russia is a melting pot of different cultures and religions. And beside the far right tards (which I hope you dont see as the true patriots since they would try to kill you since they would mistake you for an Caucasian) no one really cares about it.