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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: Kawe » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:22 pm

alan131210 wrote:
Zert wrote:That's a map I made some time ago, but it's not completely correct; Urme (West Azerbaijan) is not completely Kurdish, the Northeastern corner, and the Southern shore of Lake Urme are Azeri; Ilam's Southern parts aren't Kurdish either, and the Kurdish extent into Hamadan is most likely not that great.


then make us an accurate one please :lol:


Just refer to the one I posted for now, but with the changes I suggested (Kermashan and Illam city as Kurdish). But I agree, Zert should make an accurate one!

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PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:25 pm

jjmuneer wrote:
Zert wrote:That's a map I made some time ago, but it's not completely correct; Urme (West Azerbaijan) is not completely Kurdish, the Northeastern corner, and the Southern shore of Lake Urme are Azeri; Ilam's Southern parts aren't Kurdish either, and the Kurdish extent into Hamadan is most likely not that great.

What do you mean they aren't Kurdish? So you don't count Lurs as Kurds?The Lurds there speak Fayli from what I know, but I don't know whether they identify as Kurdish.


He said some southern parts of Ilam (not Ilam as a whole) where Big Lors live. But I agree with you. Ilam as a whole is Kurdish from my knowledge.

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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:35 pm

i want to apologize to kak jjmuneer for saying Ilam "was not mentioned as kurdish" before , i dont know what i was thinking when i said that BUT I HAVE HEARD IT MANY TIMES that Ilam is kurdish #-o
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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:43 pm

alan131210 wrote:i want to apologize to kak jjmuneer for saying Ilam "was not mentioned as kurdish" before , i dont know what i was thinking when i said that BUT I HAVE HEARD IT MANY TIMES that Ilam is kurdish #-o

I personally think Ilam is more Kurdish than Kiranshan city, because most people in Ilam speak Kurdish.
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PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:38 pm

jjmuneer wrote:
alan131210 wrote:i want to apologize to kak jjmuneer for saying Ilam "was not mentioned as kurdish" before , i dont know what i was thinking when i said that BUT I HAVE HEARD IT MANY TIMES that Ilam is kurdish #-o

I personally think Ilam is more Kurdish than Kiranshan city, because most people in Ilam speak Kurdish.


unfortunately some Persian settled in Kirmashan in asimilation process but Kirmashan is also ~85-90% Kurdish.

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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:52 pm

Kawe wrote:
alan131210 wrote:
Zert wrote:That's a map I made some time ago, but it's not completely correct; Urme (West Azerbaijan) is not completely Kurdish, the Northeastern corner, and the Southern shore of Lake Urme are Azeri; Ilam's Southern parts aren't Kurdish either, and the Kurdish extent into Hamadan is most likely not that great.


then make us an accurate one please :lol:


Just refer to the one I posted for now, but with the changes I suggested (Kermashan and Illam city as Kurdish). But I agree, Zert should make an accurate one!


my map is better :-D

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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: Zert » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:52 pm

Hey, I don't have to do anything!
...but perhaps I'll make one. In the mean time, some of you might be interested in checking out some recent posts I made on the ancient origins of Kurds:
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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: kardox » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:53 am

over my dead body, 80 percent of west azarbajcan is Kurdish, and I do not support arabs either, they are not native to Iran, they should go back to KSA.
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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:47 pm

Why is it nobody includes Hamamdan/Ecbatana as a kurdish city in these maps? Just cause it's persian majority now does'nt mean the city belongs to them. But anyway thats the only thing that bothers me about Kurdistan maps
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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: unitedkurdistan » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:13 pm

RawandKurdistani wrote:Why is it nobody includes Hamamdan/Ecbatana as a kurdish city in these maps? Just cause it's persian majority now does'nt mean the city belongs to them. But anyway thats the only thing that bothers me about Kurdistan maps


Most kurdish maps are based on where kurds live and are majority and we don't live in Hamadan.

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PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:08 pm

unitedkurdistan wrote:
RawandKurdistani wrote:Why is it nobody includes Hamamdan/Ecbatana as a kurdish city in these maps? Just cause it's persian majority now does'nt mean the city belongs to them. But anyway thats the only thing that bothers me about Kurdistan maps


Most kurdish maps are based on where kurds live and are majority and we don't live in Hamadan.



We do live in Hamadan yet only in some of the Western parts. The rest of Hamadan is today Persian and Azeri.

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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:25 am

Kurdistano wrote:
unitedkurdistan wrote:
RawandKurdistani wrote:Why is it nobody includes Hamamdan/Ecbatana as a kurdish city in these maps? Just cause it's persian majority now does'nt mean the city belongs to them. But anyway thats the only thing that bothers me about Kurdistan maps


Most kurdish maps are based on where kurds live and are majority and we don't live in Hamadan.



We do live in Hamadan yet only in some of the Western parts. The rest of Hamadan is today Persian and Azeri.



That is what i cant accept.
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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: unitedkurdistan » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:53 pm

Kurdistano wrote:
unitedkurdistan wrote:
Most kurdish maps are based on where kurds live and are majority and we don't live in Hamadan.



We do live in Hamadan yet only in some of the Western parts. The rest of Hamadan is today Persian and Azeri.


Do you mean west of the province or the western parts of the city? If you mean west of the province then yes many kurds live there but many of those cities are shared with azeris, just look at Khorva for example. I have been to Hamadan several times when I was going to Sna from tehran however that was just driving through the city of rest in a park or something so I am not sure on the amount, maybe when I get in touch with my uncle he can tell me the exact number of kurds since plenty of the info we get on internet is false. But I have been in Khorva once and I belive that azeris are between 30-35% maybe even more in the city. Lets say that 10% of the city is populated by kurds which I find hard to belive, what do you suggest we should do in case we control Hamadan?

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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:29 pm

hamadan is lost. we cant claim a city in which we are absolutely minority, even if it was historically kurdish.

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Re: Interesting map of Iran

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:46 pm

hevalo27 wrote:hamadan is lost. we cant claim a city in which we are absolutely minority, even if it was historically kurdish.


If the kurds in Khorasan moved back to Kurdistan, then we could easily form majority again.
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