Dangerous ideologies for Kurds

[Cewlik]

Sorry that I make this topic, but I have no other change. I see how radical and dangerous the Apoists and Femenists are, they harm Kurdistan and dont care about that.

Yes I must criticize the PKK, even if they fight in north Kurdistan, the propblem is they fight in north Kurdistan but not for north Kurdistan. They fight for for Öcalan, a Communist Turkey and for Femenisim. And for this shit the young Guerrillas must die.

Öcalan's ideology is more than 90% about personality cult, Communism and Feminism. In most of his statements and interviews he talk only about this stupid thinks, he never care to much about Kurdistan. In the PKK camps they read only Öcalans books and they talk only about him.

We all can see how the PKK follower say only Biji Serok Apo, they say never Biji Kurdistan, they also never use the Kurdistan flag, they only use their own party flag and of course Öcalans flag.

The BDP use all talks with Turkish, European and American politicans only to demand freedom for Öcalan. The BDP use the Kurds for their crazy Apoisim.

If Kurds dont stand up against this, nothing will change.

I am from north Kurdistan and many Kurds there are frustrated, they are proud Kurds and for Kurdistan, but there is no party which represents them.

Please my Kurdish brothers and sisters, wake up, we dont must support every party which call itself Kurdish. Some parties use the Kurds only for their interests.

We need a real nationalist Kurdish party in north Kurdistan, which dont mix stupid ideologies with the Kurdish freedom movement, which use the Kurdish Flag and whose follower say Biji Kurdistan in Amed and other north Kurdish cities.

If Kurds dont create a new movement in north Kurdistan, which is mostly focused on Kurdistan, only Turkey will benefit from that.

[brendar]

The truth is that the kurds in the north are in a long sleep. Come on, 20 millions kurds in turkey cannot run a proper demonstration all over the north! If all those 20 million kurds vote for BDP, we will be holding half of the fascist turkish parliaments seats.

If the kurds in the north have gained something or gain anything in the future, it will because of the influence of the KRG and nothing else.

The kurds in the north are busy with islam and turkish series. There is no excuse for them what so ever.

[alan131210]

agreed let pkk do its thing and the same time start a new nationalist party away from communist/feminist/apoism ideology, start a Kurdish spring and they will get autonomy.

[Cewlik]

If the kurds in the north have gained something or gain anything in the future, it will because of the influence of the KRG and nothing else.

Of coruse you are right and I hope the KRG will have more influence in north Kurdistan in the future, but KRG dont can represent the northern Kurds, they can not go to the elections etc.

North Kurdistan need a Nationalist party which is focused on freedom for Kurdistan and not a Communist or Islamic party, which destroy our freedom movement.

[alan131210]

If the kurds in the north have gained something or gain anything in the future, it will because of the influence of the KRG and nothing else.

Of coruse you are right and I hope the KRG will have more influence in north Kurdistan in the future, but KRG dont can represent the northern Kurds, they can not go to the elections etc.

North Kurdistan need a Nationalist party which is focused on freedom for Kurdistan and not a Communist or Islamic party, which destroy our freedom movement.

a KPDI for NK would not hurt

[max_b]

listen heval cewlik i cant argue with what your saying here but over on the over topic your disrespecting women gerrilas,
everything you say here i agree, im not a communist or a feminist, but them women are fighting for kurdistan, you cant chat shit to them

by the way, pkk are fighting for an Kurdish autonomy, communism and feminism are involved too but you can say they dont fight for kurdistan
of course if there was a nationalist party it would be better, you can critisie politicans but if your not a solider your self how can you try undermind pkk gerrilas?

why dont you start a nationist party( no joke), ill be your first member?

[alan131210]

if pkk is fighting for autonomy why not call for a massive demo? but they instead hold one for release of ocalan.

[Cewlik]

listen heval cewlik i cant argue with what your saying here but over on the over topic your disrespecting women gerrilas

This is a other topic so please discuss your femenist propaganda with women in a women Forum and dont mix this issue with the Kurdish Freedom movement.

but you can say they dont fight for kurdistan

I can say that, because they dont fight for Kurdistan.

why dont you start a nationist party( no joke), ill be your first member?

I am to young, have no contacts no money etc. What I can do is to join a party, its much easier, but we dont have a nationalist party in north kurdistan now.

[Cewlik]

if pkk is fighting for autonomy why not call for a massive demo? but they instead hold one for release of ocalan.

Just let him make his bla bla bla, they will never change their Apoist Femenist viwe.

The PKK dont fight for Kurdistan thats a fact, nobody can deny that. Their first and biggest demand is the releasing of Öcalan and their second demand is Communism and Feminism for Turkey. They dont care to much about Kurdistan and they block the north Kurdish nationalisim with their Apoisim.

If they meet with other politicans, they talk only about Öcalan, if they make a demonstration, they make it only for Öcalan, if they burn themselves, they make it only for Öcalan. They use the Kurds for their Apoisim and they can do it, because northern Kurds dont have a real Kurdish nationalist party that represents them.

[max_b]

if pkk is fighting for autonomy why not call for a massive demo? but they instead hold one for release of ocalan.

Just let him make his bla bla bla, they will never change their Apoist Femenist viwe.

The PKK dont fight for Kurdistan thats a fact, nobody can deny that. Their first and biggest demand is the releasing of Öcalan and their second demand is Communism and Feminism for Turkey.

But the most impotant think is Öcalan. If they meet with other politicans, they talk only about Öcalan, if they make a demonstration, they make it only for Öcalan, if they burn themselves, they make it only for Öcalan. They use the Kurds for their Apoisim and they can do it, because northern Kurds dont have a real Kurdish nationalist party that represents them.

listen anyone that desrespects kurdish soliders is scum to me

[Cewlik]

listen anyone that desrespects kurdish soliders is scum to me

And everybody who use Kurds for their dirty ideology is scum to me.

I want to protect the Guerrillas, because now they die only for Öcalans dirty policy.

[max_b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiyct4sfD18

gudari serok karayilan biki

[max_b]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=T2_0ZriIRMk&NR=1

[talsor]

I do not care much for Communism and Feminism which I think is an exaggerated fear because neither materialized in any part of the world .

but I agree with the rest .

[Cewlik]

I do not care much for Communism and Feminism which I think is an exaggerated fear because neither materialized in any part of the world .

Its a failed dirty ideology and the PKK and BDP use Kurds to fight for this ideologies. The PKK is not a Kurdish army they are a Apoist Femenist army.

Its time for a new nationalist movement.