Miss Kurdistan 2012

[jjmuneer]

Kak jjmuneer you picture made me laugh because I just shaved my head few days ago too . Anyway , you look 100% kurdish .

Some Balkerners mistake me for one of them, well sometimes on the streets. In real life I look slightly different then to my photo, and yeh I do, but I remember in Sweden lol that is a different story. Even Italians get mistaken for Turk or Arab.

Oh and for the shaving part, yeh I do that quite often. Long hair just always bothers me after awhile of having to deal with it constantly. Plus haven't you heard, Kurds in Baghdad always shave? Seriously though practically most of the males in my family have shaven heads.

[jjmuneer]

I look like an African.

Heval Ideas you actually look like a friend of my dad's, his also a Southern Kurd. Similar feature, he is just older.

[ideas]

I look like an African.

Heval Ideas you actually look like a friend of my dad's, his also a Southern Kurd. Similar feature, he is just older.

Ahh another African looking Kurd. Excellent.

[jjmuneer]

I look like an African.

Heval Ideas you actually look like a friend of my dad's, his also a Southern Kurd. Similar feature, he is just older.

Ahh another African looking Kurd. Excellent.

Lol yep they'll soon be a majority in Kurdistan.

[ideas]

Awesome! we'll start a revolution and take over. No more will us African looking Kurds be the minority!!!!!!!!!!

[ideas]

If I slap on a dress I would be the best looking in all of the village.

[jjmuneer]

[quote="ideas"]If I slap on a dress I would be the best looking in all of the village.[/quout]
Nah man who wants to be boss of a village, when you can be boss of the country

[ideas]

I'm already the boss of the country but the village people don't recognise me because I didn't follow proper village customs. And they don't like dark Kurds like me you have to be Aryan.

[Kurdistano]

and persians can also look like arabs.

As i already mentioned. Persians have as much Arab genes as Southern kurds + additional (~3% ) South Asian and in South Iran like Fars even some percentages (1-2%) more Arab genes.

So the statement "Persians can also look like arabs" is out of sense. If there is any reason why some Arabs (Iraqi, Syrian or Lebanese) can look like Southern Kurds, its because Iraqi Arabs tend to look like Kurds because they are a mix of mostly native Mesopotamian-Iranic folks + additional Bedouin admixture. Syrians and Lebanese are even more extrem they are by huge majority Arabified natives (like Phoenicians, Mitannis/Hurrians etc.) with strong to medium Bedouin input.

There might be some Kurds in South who have mixed with Iraqi Arabs and also look like that but they are not 100% ethnic Kurds and should not be taken as representative. The same you would not call a Spaniard/German mixed person a real German.

Even on Kurdistanca they wrote an article about the Arab conquests and how a few city Kurds who are darkly complexed relate back to the Arab invaders, of course as you said its a minority, but if you are going to disregard them as ethnically Kurdish then that is your problem.

But relating to the "Arabs look like Kurds", well that really doesn't make sense. As the so called Kurds who look like Arabs are a minority, so by implying it is the other way around is ilogical. Anyways if you go to Baghdad you will see most are dark as Suadis, even darker.

Heval I really dont have any idea about what you are talking. I am talking about genetics and scientific facts you come with skin color and other not so important things like skin color. I am saying that Arabs of Iraq are a mix of natives and Bedouins from the Arabian Peninsula. So no surprise that you can find Iraqis who look like Saudi Arabians and some who overlap with Kurds.

[Kurdistano]

Kak jjmuneer you picture made me laugh because I just shaved my head few days ago too . Anyway , you look 100% kurdish .

Some Balkerners mistake me for one of them, well sometimes on the streets. In real life I look slightly different then to my photo, and yeh I do, but I remember in Sweden lol that is a different story. Even Italians get mistaken for Turk or Arab.

Oh and for the shaving part, yeh I do that quite often. Long hair just always bothers me after awhile of having to deal with it constantly. Plus haven't you heard, Kurds in Baghdad always shave? Seriously though practically most of the males in my family have shaven heads.

I have asked some people for what they would mistake you (remember?) most told me North Caucasian or Albanian.

[Kurdistano]

I don't really care but perhaps because E.K's are more mixed with persians and other aryans while in S.K's they are more mixed with arabs who are semites which makes E:K's more aryan.
However when I was in Slemani I found that the majority of girls there really used kilos after kilos of makeup which was very ugly and many of these were quite fat xD No disrespect perhaps I went to the wrong places. But I did also see some good looking. But I myself prefer E.K's, I advice you Kak burhan to go to Sna there you'll find many hotties. Because you can't judge the way E.K's look from your experience with a small part of your family that comes from E.K.
So , you like S.K's more because you come from S.K and I like E.K's more because I come from E.K. However I don't have any good experience but I think N.K's are the most beautiful. I have been to Wan once and there were many beauties there and they are much more natural.

I am sorry to disappoint you but you are making the same radical mistake most peope with not much knowledge do. Persians are less "Aryan" by genetic means than Kurds from North or South Kurdistan to begin with. This is genetically proven. if there is anything what mixing with Persian would make you, it is to become slightly ( just a few percentages) closer to South-Central Asia and Iraqi Arabs. Genetically Persians are an offshoot of us with slightly (just a few percentages like 4-5%) more Arab and South-Central Asian influence.

Belive me I'm not dissapointed, I hate everything about persian than anyone else in here even if I do have family members that are married to persians. So what are you trying to say? That arabs have more so called aryan genes than persians or if a Kurd married a persian their child's DNA will have some more south-central asiaian and iraqi arabic genes? I'm not really into genetics which you can see. Do you have some info you can share about the persian DNA coz i'm not sure I agree.

A Genetic map here. The "Kurd" samples from this map are all pure blooded Kurds from Iraq. They stay genetically between Iranians and Georgians. Now go and figure who is more "Arab". Iranians are a isolate group in whole of West Asia with no connection to neither Bedouins, South-Central Asians nor Europeans. There is a huge gab between Iranians and Pakistani groups genetically even though they share borders(probably because of the Baloch who inhabitant the border area. While Kurds (even Southern and Eastern Kurds) have a tendency towards Europe and stay genetically between Georgians and Iranians.

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[unitedkurdistan]

Belive me I'm not dissapointed, I hate everything about persian than anyone else in here even if I do have family members that are married to persians. So what are you trying to say? That arabs have more so called aryan genes than persians or if a Kurd married a persian their child's DNA will have some more south-central asiaian and iraqi arabic genes? I'm not really into genetics which you can see. Do you have some info you can share about the persian DNA coz i'm not sure I agree.

A Genetic map here. The "Kurd" samples from this map are all pure blooded Kurds from Iraq. They stay genetically between Iranians and Georgians. Now go and figure who is more "Arab". Iranians are a isolate group in whole of West Asia with no connection to neither Bedouins, South-Central Asians nor Europeans. There is a huge gab between Iranians and Pakistani groups genetically even though they share borders(probably because of the Baloch who inhabitant the border area. While Kurds (even Southern and Eastern Kurds) have a tendency towards Europe and stay genetically between Georgians and Iranians.

Okey thanks for sharing. But still you havn't answered. When did I say persians are more SO called aryan than Kurds? Let me say again, if a kurd marries a persian will their child have more so called aryan genes than a child whose parents are a kurd and an arab. Who is more so called aryan.

[Kurdistano]

Belive me I'm not dissapointed, I hate everything about persian than anyone else in here even if I do have family members that are married to persians. So what are you trying to say? That arabs have more so called aryan genes than persians or if a Kurd married a persian their child's DNA will have some more south-central asiaian and iraqi arabic genes? I'm not really into genetics which you can see. Do you have some info you can share about the persian DNA coz i'm not sure I agree.

A Genetic map here. The "Kurd" samples from this map are all pure blooded Kurds from Iraq. They stay genetically between Iranians and Georgians. Now go and figure who is more "Arab". Iranians are a isolate group in whole of West Asia with no connection to neither Bedouins, South-Central Asians nor Europeans. There is a huge gab between Iranians and Pakistani groups genetically even though they share borders(probably because of the Baloch who inhabitant the border area. While Kurds (even Southern and Eastern Kurds) have a tendency towards Europe and stay genetically between Georgians and Iranians.

Okey thanks for sharing. But still you havn't answered. When did I say persians are more SO called aryan than Kurds? Let me say again, if a kurd marries a persian will their child have more so called aryan genes than a child whose parents are a kurd and an arab. Who is more so called aryan.

Yes you did. You said East Kurds are more Aryan because they are closer to Persians. Which brings us to the conclusion that you thing Persians are "more Aryan" this is at least how I have understand it. And like I said It depends on which Arabs you mix. If you compare a Iraqi Arab with a Iranian/Persian the Persian/Iranian mix would be more comfortable. But Syrian, Lebanese Arab mix would bring out similar results as with Iranians

[jjmuneer]

Heval I really dont have any idea about what you are talking. I am talking about genetics and scientific facts you come with skin color and other not so important things like skin color. I am saying that Arabs of Iraq are a mix of natives and Bedouins from the Arabian Peninsula. So no surprise that you can find Iraqis who look like Saudi Arabians and some who overlap with Kurds.

I mean regarding Kurds, and you know if were talknig in terms of haplgoroups, there is a minority of J1c3's in SK, but yes a small minority. To be honest I don't really think Y-DNA haplogrouops should be a prime factor in determining origins, of course it can help.

Oh when I was referring to "darkly complexed Kurds in the south", I mean the brown Kurds in some city areas. As most Kurds range from dark olive skin to Pale skin, and it is Turks and some Armenians who try to use these atypical Kurds as representive of the population. Which in effect turns into propaganda against us. I'm not saying anything, but I'm just saying that is what I've seen on the internet, in real life well they are too cowardly to say or do so.

[jjmuneer]

Kak jjmuneer you picture made me laugh because I just shaved my head few days ago too . Anyway , you look 100% kurdish .

Some Balkerners mistake me for one of them, well sometimes on the streets. In real life I look slightly different then to my photo, and yeh I do, but I remember in Sweden lol that is a different story. Even Italians get mistaken for Turk or Arab.

Oh and for the shaving part, yeh I do that quite often. Long hair just always bothers me after awhile of having to deal with it constantly. Plus haven't you heard, Kurds in Baghdad always shave? Seriously though practically most of the males in my family have shaven heads.

I have asked some people for what they would mistake you (remember?) most told me North Caucasian or Albanian.

Its wierd though, people said my mum had Indian vibes just because she was wearing a headscarf, even though CG classified her as Dinarid. Well that was by Turks, but they are pretty racist on race boards.