Women in Iraq face court-ordered virginity tests

[hevalo27]

Sorry but this is a cultural thing and we can't copy the west about it !!

exactly, some kurds think they must import the western culture in all details

[Kurdistano]

This is the part I hate about our culture!
The honor doesn't belong between the womens legs.
And a women should have the right to decide with who and when she wants to have sex.

If we follow your rules which have been implemented in western country We will end up in a society of single mothers and fathers with divorce rate reaching 60% in some countries .I'm not even going to bother talking about the social problems these single fathers/mothers/children face/will face in the future .

The term " honour is not between the women leg " is the most ridiculous feminist concept I have heard in my entire life . There such a thing as social norm and if we ignore that to satisfy the feminist agenda of striving to complete and total equality which might feel empowering to feminists , but it has a disastrous consequences as well . The idea of a woman doing who/how/where/ she wants to is laughable and frankly encouraged by even some men in the west to temporarily get what they want .

There no such thing as equality between men and women , there is just differences .

I love it when feminist woman want equality when it comes to the "positive" effects of this. I have seen feminist demanding everything from more females in big business to more rights for woman in relationships. But why I have never seen or heard demands from them like "equal rights in parenting children in divorced marriages" or "military service for women". These feminists want all benefits of being a man but at the same time dont want to give up the ones you have as women. Here in Germany in a divorced marriage there are many cases where the man has to pay for the women money while she has already a new partner!! I know a German Guy who has given his huge villa to his wife and his children. Today he pays a salary for his ex wife to which he gave the villa while she is living with her new partner in HIS house while the new man is not poor himself. They are making themselves a good life with his villa his money. I would go crazy if I was in his position. I know so many Germans who hate feminists from deep of their heart. Feminism is a project which is doomed to fail. In the next 10-20 Years you will see how the first feminists will be chased out of the country.

There are genetically differences between Males and females which feminists cant change.

And now some people might ask "what has the virginity of women to do with that" well let me tell you. The virginity of the women, the bleeding is just secundary. Its about morality. It will not take long that non virginity will lead to more divorced marriages, less children etc. Feminism has become a real problem in Europe. I am for all usual rights for women in muslim societies like "going to work, not forced to be under headscarf (Its her choice some of my sister do wear headscarf some other dont). I think virginity should not be a law in the constitution, but it should stay a morality think in the heads of the people.

[Cewlik]

Look what feminism makes with European womans, they sleep every day with another man from every race. Feminism destroyed their nationalisim and the traditional family planning. Europe have the lowest birth rate in the world, many of the European womans dont marry and dont make children.

Or look at America, where it is a trend for white woman to sleep with black guys. The white race will mixed and die and feminism is a big reason of that.

The traditional family planning, which is so important for a society to survive, is for the feminist ideology a oppression of women. They think womans and men are the same, but biological it is not correct.

So we dont need this in our Kurdish society.

[kani]

This is the part I hate about our culture!
The honor doesn't belong between the womens legs.
And a women should have the right to decide with who and when she wants to have sex.

If we follow your rules which have been implemented in western country We will end up in a society of single mothers and fathers with divorce rate reaching 60% in some countries .I'm not even going to bother talking about the social problems these single fathers/mothers/children face/will face in the future .

The term " honour is not between the women leg " is the most ridiculous feminist concept I have heard in my entire life . There such a thing as social norm and if we ignore that to satisfy the feminist agenda of striving to complete and total equality which might feel empowering to feminists , but it has a disastrous consequences as well . The idea of a woman doing who/how/where/ she wants to is laughable and frankly encouraged by even some men in the west to temporarily get what they want .

There no such thing as equality between men and women , there is just differences .

I love it when feminist woman want equality when it comes to the "positive" effects of this. I have seen feminist demanding everything from more females in big business to more rights for woman in relationships. But why I have never seen or heard demands from them like "equal rights in parenting children in divorced marriages" or "military service for women". These feminists want all benefits of being a man but at the same time dont want to give up the ones you have as women. Here in Germany in a divorced marriage there are many cases where the man has to pay for the women money while she has already a new partner!! I know a German Guy who has given his huge villa to his wife and his children. Today he pays a salary for his ex wife to which he gave the villa while she is living with her new partner in HIS house while the new man is not poor himself. They are making themselves a good life with his villa his money. I would go crazy if I was in his position. I know so many Germans who hate feminists from deep of their heart. Feminism is a project which is doomed to fail. In the next 10-20 Years you will see how the first feminists will be chased out of the country.

There are genetically differences between Males and females which feminists cant change.

And now some people might ask "what has the virginity of women to do with that" well let me tell you. The virginity of the women, the bleeding is just secundary. Its about morality. It will not take long that non virginity will lead to more divorced marriages, less children etc. Feminism has become a real problem in Europe. I am for all usual rights for women in muslim societies like "going to work, not forced to be under headscarf (Its her choice some of my sister do wear headscarf some other dont). I think virginity should not be a law in the constitution, but it should stay a morality think in the heads of the people.

Look when i say men and women are equal I also mean that women should have the same obligations! Women should also go to the military (just like here in finland, both men and women goes 6 month to the military becouse it's a forced law here). And also when it comes to divorce women and men should have the same
obligations and rights!
The law in Finland here is different. Divorced partners should pay 50/50 for their childern when they go to school and so on. And when they divorce the wife have no rights to own her husbands house/car or whatsoever,same goes to the husband.
I think some laws in different countries are stupid,juts like you mentioned in Germany. I think the laws we have in Finland are way better.

[kani]

Look what feminism makes with European womans, they sleep every day with another man from every race. Feminism destroyed their nationalisim and the traditional family planning. Europe have the lowest birth rate in the world, many of the European womans dont marry and dont make children.

Or look at America, where it is a trend for white woman to sleep with black guys. The white race will mixed and die and feminism is a big reason of that.

The traditional family planning, which is so important for a society to survive, is for the feminist ideology a oppression of women. They think womans and men are the same, but biological it is not correct.

So we dont need this in our Kurdish society.

LOL so ALL european women sleep everyday with different men? OMG you have such a stupid view of european women just like any kurdish guy.You shouldn't generilaze everyone. I am not against traditional family planning (for beeing honest i don't like when kurds get mixed with other races,speacelly when it comes to arabs,turks and persians) but in the end we are all humans as they say....However just like my dad says..nothing is 100€ everything has it's own negetive and possitave sides.

[jjmuneer]

Thats rubbish, we have to face the fact cousin marriages are common amongst Kurds, not sure about first cousin marriages, which I disagreee with, but the rest fairly common. The middle-east is genetically really diverese, Europe is probably more inbred than we'll ever be, whether you think it or not.

what is rubbish ? mate i have seen more 10 examples so far and bcoz the parents were cousins .

Sources? I've nevere seen it amongst the Kurds that do it. Were they first cousins?

[Kurdistano]

Thats rubbish, we have to face the fact cousin marriages are common amongst Kurds, not sure about first cousin marriages, which I disagreee with, but the rest fairly common. The middle-east is genetically really diverese, Europe is probably more inbred than we'll ever be, whether you think it or not.

what is rubbish ? mate i have seen more 10 examples so far and bcoz the parents were cousins .

Sources? I've nevere seen it amongst the Kurds that do it. Were they first cousins?

It can happen and it is also important if cousin first degree or second, third. Second and third degree usually have no side effects but first degree it can happen sometimes. Also even if it does not have side effects it is a proven fact that Kids from non cousin marriages are usually healthier. However marriages with cousins of second or third degree have no disadvantages, while marriage with no cousins can have advantages.