Kurd Faylis pictures

[alan131210]

Yes we can't hang out with Sunni Arabs and can't hang with Sunni Turks and Shia arabs/Persians !!

That is just friggin WRONG

F*ck them all, all the Arabs all the Persians, all the Turks.

see that is what i and most of us want to hear not just from feylis who have suffered by iraq and iran , but all other kurds too , like those assimilated kurds in NK , those yezidis who wear arab clothings , WTF is that !! cant they wear kurdish costumes

[alan131210]

Adel Murad (PUK secretariat member)



Mala baxtiyar (PUK secretariat member)

[jjmuneer]

Adel Murad (PUK secretariat member)



Mala baxtiyar (PUK secretariat member)

You know Adel Murad I swear to God I think his my uncle. I have so many uncles, that I do not even know. Let me ask my dad lol.

There is a man on my facebook who is also a nationalist politicans, he works with Kurdish parties closely, I forgot his name, but his also a xanaqi Kurd. Its wierd how many dad knows all these famous people.

Wait there is also another Murad who is my uncle and is an economist for the PUK I think, not sure. I have too much family to remember.

[talsor]

So what were you implying exactly?

it is the usual line that is being used by faylees . Every time you have a discussion or criticize them they immediately say what you said(what so we are not kurds ) . So instead of dealing with the issue or validating a stand they simply act like victims which normally prevent people from having genuine conversation with them and majority of the Kurds I know present an appeasing attitude towards faylees which I think is wrong and fake .

Its not upsetting me, but see the effect your trying to create on me is having the opposite impact. The more you try and talk to me like I'm a child , the more I become a "tribalist", well techincally a "clanist". Oh and i wasn't threatening you, I was being serious about going to EK.

The truth should be told heval even if it is upsetting . Look I'm not going to do what most kurds do , which appeasing faylees . I think there is lots work that needs to be done by/with faylees and the idea of "we are with the highest bet " is just wrong and will never work .

Wait did I not state the before, or did you purposely ignore that line? See why is when I state these things you have continue to say the same rubbish about us fight "for Iran", when I specifically said we weren't.

If you are going to talk about faylees as a separate entity from Kurds and Kurdistan then you are right and this discussion is over .

We are, I meant economically we were better off than most Kurds because we were educated. I thought you said there is no "us or we", only Kurd? Strange how you use the terminolgy yourself. .

I thought you were poor and oppressed ? Economic prosperity education come at a cost and would not you agree ?.
Of course there is not us and You , but if you check your replies you are dealing with it like it is US and You and that is the main focus of my criticism .

How can they work within the framework of Kurdistan when the KRG doesn't even want Kurd Faylis to work in Kurdistan. How can they work with other Kurdish parties who only care about their own interest. You realise political parties also serve their own interest. Just look at the political system in the KRG, it is every you are against, yet you support it.

I'm talking about people here and not political parties . Once again you are dealing with the issue like it is Faylee nation and Kurdish nation . Do you have any proof that KRG does not want to work with faylis ?

[alan131210]

Adel murad is such a decent guy i swear if all politicians were like him kurdistan would be corruption free .

he is a nationalist and he joined PUK in the mountain when he was only 16 .

[jjmuneer]

Kak Talsor add me on facebook, I think this conversation would be better discussed on here. Your twisting everything I say just to attack me. I'm not talking about Kurd Faylis as a seperate entity, your the one saying that. You always say "Fayli" like we are not Kurds. As I said to Kak Ideas, Fayli is just a desigination for the Pahli speakers, technically Hewramans are also Pahli'Fayli Kurds. So I really don't know why your trying to say "US and them", because you think that we are a united body or entity. Lol you also think I posses some political authority over my people, I'm just one Kid. I can ask my fellow compatriots not to do certain things, but certainly not force. As I also said before the Faylis abroad or even in southern parts of Iraq, like Najaf are a minority and isolated. I have plenty of family and tribe in Baghdad who are pro KRG, so I don't know where you get this that were anti-KRG. I personally don't agree with everything the KRG does, but I really don't care to write a whole essay on it. The KRG can only do so much in my opinion. Wait so find it funny that millions of Kurds got deported and dissappeared? I am are you serious or are you being sarcastic? Because that is just sick if you are. Kurd Faylis yes were considerably wealthy pre-saddam era and IRI era, but that changed as Saddam siezed all our wealth and took it. Even now there are cases of Arabs occupying Kurdish mansions and homes and saying it is their's, purely based on the fact they've lived in it for awhile. Now however I cannot say the same. And regarding the KRG I did not say Kurd Faylis don't work with them, I said the KRG only cares for itself. Is that a problem? I also agree, it should care for itself. As NK as BDP and PKK, EK has PJAK. Sadly it isn't the same in EK or with Kurds in Baghdad. As Kurdish political parties or the Kurds there themselves are demonized. If Kurdish parties press ahead or seek support there, arabs will claim they are trying to cause seperatism. Basically it makes them a target.
Faylistan? Lol that doesn't sound right tbh. Maybe as a province once Kurdistan is liberated.

[alan131210]

yes Kurd Feylis need a province made up of Kirmashan ilam and Khanaqin .

[jjmuneer]

Abdelwahed Al-faily

[jjmuneer]

Khanaqini Peshmergas I believe:

[talsor]

Adel murad is such a decent guy i swear if all politicians were like him kurdistan would be corruption free .

he is a nationalist and he joined PUK in the mountain when he was only 16 .

of course heval and there are plenty of nationalist faylees , but they do not represent much . There are some Kurdish groups(yazidis , shabak , faylees .....) that are situated between KRG and Arab region who are exploiting the situation and playing on both sides which I think it is totally wrong . Now KRG have national obligation to address their concerns and they have done that to a certain degree , but it is getting out of control and I feel that the votes in these region are for Sale to who ever pays more !!! . As Kurds we should not accept that and must point out to issues like this to raise awareness .

[talsor]

Kak Talsor add me on facebook, I think this conversation would be better discussed on here.

I boycotted Facebook for over a year now and I do not even have an account now .

Your twisting everything I say just to attack me. I'm not talking about Kurd Faylis as a seperate entity, your the one saying that. You always say "Fayli" like we are not Kurds. As I said to Kak Ideas, Fayli is just a desigination for the Pahli speakers, technically Hewramans are also Pahli'Fayli Kurds. So I really don't know why your trying to say "US and them", because you think that we are a united body or entity. .

Kak JJmuneer , Like I said do not take it personally and it is never my intention to attack you in anyway .There is certain truth to what I say and LIke I said read your own posts and tell me if you are not talking about faylis as a separate entity ?. I'm not the one who is doing it and I simply pointed out to the issue based on your posts on several occasions in the last couple of days . Look the major problem is that faylis (not all certainly ) are Faylis/kurd/shia/Iraqi/Iranian

Lol you also think I posses some political authority over my people, I'm just one Kid. I can ask my fellow compatriots not to do certain things, but certainly not force. As I also said before the Faylis abroad or even in southern parts of Iraq, like Najaf are a minority and isolated. I have plenty of family and tribe in Baghdad who are pro KRG, so I don't know where you get this that were anti-KRG. I personally don't agree with everything the KRG does, but I really don't care to write a whole essay on it. The KRG can only do so much in my opinion..

My criticism is not directed at you heval and I think you are doing a great job by just being here .

Wait so find it funny that millions of Kurds got deported and dissappeared? I am are you serious or are you being sarcastic? Because that is just sick if you are.

I lost you there and I have no clue what you are referring to , but I think you know me long enough to know what I find funny and not funny .

Kurd Faylis yes were considerably wealthy pre-saddam era and IRI era, but that changed as Saddam siezed all our wealth and took it. Even now there are cases of Arabs occupying Kurdish mansions and homes and saying it is their's, purely based on the fact they've lived in it for awhile. Now however I cannot say the same. And regarding the KRG I did not say Kurd Faylis don't work with them, I said the KRG only cares for itself. Is that a problem? I also agree, it should care for itself. As NK as BDP and PKK, EK has PJAK. Sadly it isn't the same in EK or with Kurds in Baghdad. As Kurdish political parties or the Kurds there themselves are demonized. If Kurdish parties press ahead or seek support there, arabs will claim they are trying to cause seperatism. Basically it makes them a target.
Faylistan? Lol that doesn't sound right tbh. Maybe as a province once Kurdistan is liberated.

If we care about what arab or turk or persian think , we might as well just quit now .

I'm not going to talk about Faylees political parties too much , but It is understandable that they work for local Kurds in their region . It become a problem when the faylees votes and support is for sale which contradict kurdishness and the big picture of Kurdistan . Faylees are not the only one doing it by the way , Yazidis , shabak are doing it too and they are never clear in their stand when it comes to joining Kurdistan or Iraq and they complain equally to both side and both Iraq and Kurdistan are equally trying to appease them .

[jjmuneer]

I boycotted Facebook for over a year now and I do not even have an account now .

Do you have MSN or skype?

Kak JJmuneer , Like I said do not take it personally and it is never my intention to attack you in anyway .There is certain truth to what I say and LIke I said read your own posts and tell me if you are not talking about faylis as a separate entity ?. I'm not the one who is doing it and I simply pointed out to the issue based on your posts on several occasions in the last couple of days . Look the major problem is that faylis (not all certainly ) are Faylis/kurd/shia/Iraqi/Iranian

I'm not taking it personally, I'm just confused to why you consider us a seperate ethnicity. When I'm referring to Faylis complaining, I'm talkiing specifically about the ones in Baghdad. And how exactly do you want me to refer to faylis? Because you do realise I have family there? Can I ask do you have family there? No, so you really don't have to worry about my concerns or personal feelings. "faylis (not all certainly ) are Faylis/kurd/shia/Iraqi/Iranian" I don't understand that, but I'll assume you mean that is what they consider themselves. Well I don't really see what is wrong with considering themselves a religon. I also don't see what is wrong with calling themselves Kurd Faylis. You do realise the only faylis that call themselves faylis are the ones in Baghdad? Regarding nationality I agree they shouldn't call themselves that, but what can we do? I mean whats on your passport? Whats on mine? Till there is independance, nothing can be said to change that.

My criticism is not directed at you heval and I think you are doing a great job by just being here

No worries, I personally don't like discussions rather just shoot to kill then may ask one question type of person. Just kidding, but I just want to make aware of the kurd faylis amongst 'other kurds'. Notice I never say Kurd Fayli to non Kurds, that is the only reason I use the word Kurd Fayli in this forum, because frankly I don't see how a Turk or Arab gives a shit about tribal/linguistcs divisions. That in reality don't exist anymore, and only really in names.

I lost you there and I have no clue what you are referring to , but I think you know me long enough to know what I find funny and not funny .

Just a misunderstanding, I thought you meant the victims of the deportations.

If we care about what arab or turk or persian think , we might as well just quit now .

I'm not going to talk about Faylees political parties too much , but It is understandable that they work for local Kurds in their region . It become a problem when the faylees votes and support is for sale which contradict kurdishness and the big picture of Kurdistan . Faylees are not the only one doing it by the way , Yazidis , shabak are doing it too and they are never clear in their stand when it comes to joining Kurdistan or Iraq and they complain equally to both side and both Iraq and Kurdistan are equally trying to appease them

Well the problem is the Arabs have a legal loophole, as they have documentation made by Saddam lol. All those assets lost sadly. Well some are re-claimed.

Regarding what you said about Kurdish Fayli parties, I think that video was seen in the wrong light. The two shieks weren't Arabs, nor Iranian, I think their called Hakims. Not sure which ethnicity they were, but definalty not Arab and Persian. They were prosecuted by Saddam, yes its for religious reasons, but they have no relations to Iran. Let me tell you what the Faylis want(Baghdadis) just recongition by the KRG, that is all. Go ask any fayli who isn't Jeleel they will say the same thing, they also want compensation. Many Faylis were pscyholigcally damaged. I'm not saying we were the only Kurds to be harmed, of course Kurds as a whole, but the problem is we are in technically on arab soil. So it really complicates things. I don't claim to be a spokesman for the faylis, but I'll say this as I have said before. Independance in SK will be the only way to convince the ones in Baghdad to return back to Khanaqin and Mandali, because most of them there just don't believe the KRG will ever seperate. The atmosphere in Baghdad is very different to the one in Arbil or Khanaqin.

Btw reason I wanted to add you on facebook is to show you that Baghdadi Kurds aren't how you make out.

[jjmuneer]

I know this may sound stupid coming from me, but I really don't think we should focus too much on the Baghdadi Kurds. Really they are insigificant in comparison to what can be achieved with the Lurs in Luristan. As really most of the Baghdadi Kurds are either deported back to Ilam/Kirmanshan or in western europe.

[jjmuneer]