Would you support assyrian autonomy?

[Cewlik]

The last time I posted a poll on their web site majority of them preferred "Killing all the Kurds " over freedom , autonomy and even having their own country .

That is a very important point. We must know what they really want. In the past where the baath regime under saddam dont recognized their language and culture like Kurdstan do now, they said nothink. According to the constitution they were Arabs all their parties were banned, but they didnt care. Why? because the Baath regime killed Kurds, and that was enough for them.

And now, only because Kurds achieved somethink, they come with the autonomy discussion, to use that for propaganda like Kurds steal their land bla bla bla

So their demands are not because they want rights, it is because of their hate that Kurdistan established somethink. If Iraq or Turkey would occupy south Kurdistan, they would be happy again, even if their rights would not be recognized.

[RawandKurdistani]

The last time I posted a poll on their web site majority of them preferred "Killing all the Kurds " over freedom , autonomy and even having their own country .

That is a very important point. We must know what they really want. In the past where the baath regime under saddam dont recognized their language and culture like Kurdstan do now, they said nothink. According to the constitution they were Arabs all their parties were banned, but they didnt care. Why? because the Baath regime killed Kurds, and that was enough for them.

And now, only because Kurds achieved somethink, they come with the autonomy discussion, to use that for propaganda like Kurds steal their land bla bla bla

So their demands are not because they want rights, it is because of their hate that Kurdistan established somethink. If Iraq or Turkey would occupy south Kurdistan, they would be happy again, even if their rights would not be recognized.

Well if that's the case, then i will agree with you, they should'nt get anything. And occupation of south Kurdistan? No way! The only thing to look forward to is the rise of a greater Kurdistan

[unitedkurdistan]

They hate us and then they demand us to give them land, until the day they start worshipping our kurdish flag and show us some respect then they can administrate their few villages. But if they keep being anti-kurd and they still want to control themselves then I suggest them to move to iraq where they belong and love.

[talsor]

Because many kurds consider the Nineveh plains as a part of Kurdistan, and it once was aswell before the assyrians showed up from the arabic deserts.

Even in ninava plain they are minority . They are less than kurds , less than arabs , less that chaldean , less than turkman , less than shabak , less than yezidis ....hell they are less than everyone .

[RawandKurdistani]

Because many kurds consider the Nineveh plains as a part of Kurdistan, and it once was aswell before the assyrians showed up from the arabic deserts.

Even in ninava plain they are minority . They are less than kurds , less than arabs , less that chaldean , less than turkman , less than shabak , less than yezidis ....hell they are less than everyone .

Quick question: why did you put shabak and yezidi as different groups? they are both kurds.

[Cewlik]

Because many kurds consider the Nineveh plains as a part of Kurdistan

First of all Kurds support the implementation of the constitution including articel 140. Accourding to this articel a referendum must be held to decide which regions want to connect to Kurdistan. And the Nineveh plain is a part of this articel, because it has a big Kurdish population. So if the region decide to join Kurdistan, it will be a part of Kurdistan and if not, it will be a part of Iraq, of coruse Kurdistan can only accept the referendum results, if it will be fair without manupulations.

well the thing is that they refuse to go back to Bagdad, they know there so called arab brothers will declare jihad on them, so therefore they all choose to stay in Kurdistan, and quite frankly i really don't want those racists in our homeland.

They are not a big issue, let them live in Kurdistan under Kurdish rule they have all their rights, they are safe, they have their own shool and they also have reserved seats in the Kurdish parliament, because their parties dont even get enough votes.

Look to this big diffrent, in Turkey they have a 10% threshold because they dont want Kurds in the parliament.

[talsor]

Because many kurds consider the Nineveh plains as a part of Kurdistan, and it once was aswell before the assyrians showed up from the arabic deserts.

Even in ninava plain they are minority . They are less than kurds , less than arabs , less that chaldean , less than turkman , less than shabak , less than yezidis ....hell they are less than everyone .

Quick question: why did you put shabak and yezidi as different groups? they are both kurds.

They certainly are and I was talking within the context of Ninava plains and not Kurdistan . If Assyrian deserve autonomy within the plains then so does yezidis and shabaks . keep in mind that the idea of having shabak and Yesidiz as one region is a remote possibility due to geographical reasons .

[Kurdistano]

I meant for them to have autonomy after the liberation of greater Kurdistan.

I am also against that, why I should support such racist people?

I guess you have a point, but what can be done for them? If we keep them stateless then who knows how that's gonna effect on the future. Heval, we can't have them all hanging around in Kurdistan.

Thats the point, they could become a problem in future. In Syria they have some areas in majority just give it to them and you will get rid of their demands in future. Also I know that the majority of them (at least on the Internet ) are a bunch of racist, insane idiots yet there are also many kind people and we should also try to distinguish between them.

[Kurdistano]

They certainly are and I was talking within the context of Ninava plains and not Kurdistan . If Assyrian deserve autonomy within the plains then so does yezidis and shabaks . keep in mind that the idea of having shabak and Yesidiz as one region is a remote possibility due to geographical reasons .

I think the Yezidi areas reach other Kurdish areas and I still dont know why we are waiting for the implementation of this article while the recent accident when Maliki tried to move into Zumar showed us where the Kurdish borders in reality are and they start by Mosul and it should stay so.

[talsor]

Thats the point, they could become a problem in future. In Syria they have some areas in majority just give it to them and you will get rid of their demands in future. Also I know that the majority of them (at least on the Internet ) are a bunch of racist, insane idiots yet there are also many kind people and we should also try to distinguish between them.

Not an inch of Kurdish land will be given to them after all the blood we spilled . You guys are insane for even thinking this way . We have fought Iran , Iraq ,syria and tukey combined for the last 80 years and you want to give kurdish land to those racists because you think they are going to be a problem for us ?.Aside from their cultural and liguistic rights they can go to hell if they are not happy .

[alan131210]

no. they are very dangerous people with brain washed new generation only to hate Kurds , the occupiers of "assyria" which existed as an "empire" some 7000 years ago .

btw there is not such thing its all made up there was a babylon but that was south of iraq then they imported christians and settled them in the north of iraq specially in Mosul, so they never had Kurdistan to lose it, they just invaded and kicked out kurds as they were known as tyrant empires according to bible Isaiah verse 21.

so briefly Chaldeans are the real ones these so called assuryans are made up people stealing chaldean history into theirs just youtube it you will be surprised, "assyrians caught faking history part 1,2".

[hevalo27]

they can have autonomy where they are majority, not in kurdistan. they can administrate their own villages within kurdistan, not kurdish areas. they can go and ask al maliki to give them autonomy where they come from in southiraq, why KRG ? they have all their cultural rights in kurdistan as a minority in every town.

all what they will get from me is a slap on the face, i voted for yes, they can have autonomy if they show some respect and only where they are majority

[RawandKurdistani]

no. they are very dangerous people with brain washed new generation only to hate Kurds , the occupiers of "assyria" which existed as an "empire" some 7000 years ago .

btw there is not such thing its all made up there was a babylon but that was south of iraq then they imported christians and settled them in the north of iraq specially in Mosul, so they never had Kurdistan to lose it, they just invaded and kicked out kurds as they were known as tyrant empires according to bible Isaiah verse 21.

so briefly Chaldeans are the real ones these so called assuryans are made up people stealing chaldean history into theirs just youtube it you will be surprised, "assyrians caught faking history part 1,2".

Im starting to think those people should'nt have the Nineveh plains after all

[RawandKurdistani]

no. they are very dangerous people with brain washed new generation only to hate Kurds , the occupiers of "assyria" which existed as an "empire" some 7000 years ago .

btw there is not such thing its all made up there was a babylon but that was south of iraq then they imported christians and settled them in the north of iraq specially in Mosul, so they never had Kurdistan to lose it, they just invaded and kicked out kurds as they were known as tyrant empires according to bible Isaiah verse 21.

so briefly Chaldeans are the real ones these so called assuryans are made up people stealing chaldean history into theirs just youtube it you will be surprised, "assyrians caught faking history part 1,2".

So do you support Nineveh plains as a part of kurdistan? (Like it was thousands of years ago)

[Lepzerin]

I do not see the point of political autonomy for them, as it'll be a difficult region for them to administrate in the first place as it is hardly uniformly "Assyrian" like Kurdish settlements deep in KRG.

However, the Assyrian people should have a right to learn their language and practice their culture in peace. Kurds should never deprive other peoples what was deprived to us for many centuries and continues to be. We should be mindful that most of these Assyrians who are rabidly anti-Kurdish and all around racist come from the Ba'athist mold, and are usually living abroad and not in Iraq who are angry they are no longer getting the massive government support Saddam gave them to show off to the west that he was "secular". Assad's family has done the same thing in Syria- even recently when they took the Arab League observers to western Kurdistan (I believe Qamishlo), they took them to Assyrian loyalists who claimed that Kurds were being violent to them and it was only by the protection of Assad they were safe. Westerners eat this up, unfortunately, as they are sympathetic to the christian minorities in the Middle-East, even those that profess to be atheist. Here in the United States most of them have teamed up with other islamophobes to spread their hate against not just Kurds but all peoples of the Middle-East, but they are not the same people who are working with the Kurds now. We shouldn't condemn them for the actions of their extremist nuts living abroad.