Kurdistan - Politics

[Kawe]

He is asking for proof for your statement about how Palestinians celebrated when Saddam attacked the Kurds. I would like to see some as well.

I don't care about the Israeli-Palestinian issue, since they don't care about Kurds.

[talsor]

He is asking for proof for your statement about how Palestinians celebrated when Saddam attacked the Kurds. I would like to see some as well.

I don't care about the Israeli-Palestinian issue, since they don't care about Kurds.

We are talking about 1988 heval . No Youtube , but I saw it on the Iraqi TV at that time .

[Kawe]

He is asking for proof for your statement about how Palestinians celebrated when Saddam attacked the Kurds. I would like to see some as well.

I don't care about the Israeli-Palestinian issue, since they don't care about Kurds.

We are talking about 1988 heval . No Youtube , but I saw it on the Iraqi TV at that time .

I believe you, although I was hoping to see it myself too.

[Londoner]

In modern political life, every one follows his interest and interests need practicality not idealism. America and Israel can do without us and others. But at this particular times their interests are compatible to our interests. So it is upto us to exploit this opportunity as much as we can. Never mind if they care or not about anything.

[diako_ber]

He is asking for proof for your statement about how Palestinians celebrated when Saddam attacked the Kurds. I would like to see some as well.

I don't care about the Israeli-Palestinian issue, since they don't care about Kurds.

It is true, my parents always told us about what those Palestinians did. Most of them became mukhabarat

[max_b]

but heval talsor, its all political, didnt KDP and PUK go to war which was backed by foreign parties?
wasnt kdp and pkk going through troublesome times, its all political its not as easy as ''were with them and there with them''

Hevali hija u berkefti , what does that have to do with anything we are discussing ?

yeah its not really kurds concern to defend Palestine , expectaly when no other Muslim country or organisation is, but to completely turn your back on them is not good,
im sure the brothers and sisters in gaza are going thought the same hell as our people are going through so its not easy

i swear isreal sell wepons to tc, drones and all that right?

There are (if I'm not mistaken) 28 arab countries along with Iran and turkey supporting Palestinian , so what do you expect kurds to do ? Can you show me ONE statement from any Palestinian politician condemning what saddam did to kurds and recognizing kurdish right and self determination ? So please tell me why should kurds give a damn ?

Despite everything you must admit that no kurdish politician have ever issued a statement undermining the Palestinian cause nor did they ever hold guns against them or celebrate their misery . In fact there are several thousands of Palestinian refugee in Kurdistan right now enjoying peace and support .

well im sure the thousands of Palestinian refugees arent celebrating, and there the people that should really be helped,
your right about the one statement about kurds, but that being said who sencerly has? palistine is the last people that can really help kurdistan anyway, when it comes down to it kurds and palistiane are in the same boat


like i said its all politics them brother in refugee camps arent calebrating nothing, maybe ramadan

[max_b]

but heval talsor, its all political, didnt KDP and PUK go to war which was backed by foreign parties?
wasnt kdp and pkk going through troublesome times, its all political its not as easy as ''were with them and there with them''

Hevali hija u berkefti , what does that have to do with anything we are discussing ?

yeah its not really kurds concern to defend Palestine , expectaly when no other Muslim country or organisation is, but to completely turn your back on them is not good,
im sure the brothers and sisters in gaza are going thought the same hell as our people are going through so its not easy

i swear isreal sell wepons to tc, drones and all that right?

There are (if I'm not mistaken) 28 arab countries along with Iran and turkey supporting Palestinian , so what do you expect kurds to do ? Can you show me ONE statement from any Palestinian politician condemning what saddam did to kurds and recognizing kurdish right and self determination ? So please tell me why should kurds give a damn ?

Despite everything you must admit that no kurdish politician have ever issued a statement undermining the Palestinian cause nor did they ever hold guns against them or celebrate their misery . In fact there are several thousands of Palestinian refugee in Kurdistan right now enjoying peace and support .

what i mean about the kurdish parties is they done worse things to each other then waving flags and chanting some arabic, not to mention being motivated by non-kurds, so

your right about the second paragraph but saying why should kurds give a damn is not right,
and anyway i need to find out about that thing you said first

[Kurdistano]

your right about the one statement about kurds, but that being said who sencerly has?

Russian,European, American and Israeli officials already have even if it was linked to own interests. But I have never heard from a Palestinian official even asking Turkey for dialogue with Kurds.

palistine is the last people that can really help kurdistan anyway, when it comes down to it kurds and palistiane are in the same boat

Good and who are the Kurds to help the Palestinians? It is really not amusing to always see the people use the argument "Kurds should stay with Palestinians" and when you ask why dont the Palestinians stay for Kurds, "Palestinians cant help us". They cant help but we can help? We are already doing more than most Arab countries by accepting Palestinian refugees. Kurds made never bad statements about Palestinians.

You use how the arguments turn like a circle. All Arguments brought can be used over the Kurds too.

[Rando]

we should focus on independence for kurdistan first. after all parts of kurdistan are independent,then we can support/ask for peaceul-talks between isrealis and palestinians.
this would hopefully stop most terrorist attacks against israel and palestinians would have a independent country to live peacefully in

[talsor]

well im sure the thousands of Palestinian refugees arent celebrating, and there the people that should really be helped,
your right about the one statement about kurds, but that being said who sencerly has? palistine is the last people that can really help kurdistan anyway, when it comes down to it kurds and palistiane are in the same boat
like i said its all politics them brother in refugee camps arent calebrating nothing, maybe ramadan

You keep saying "it is politics " like the word mean something ! You are like an Israelis I met who was trying to validate selling weapons to turkey by saying its politics .

Heval :
Supporting a regime like Saddam was wrong
Not condemning his crime against Kurds is/was wrong
Not recognizing Kurdish rights is wrong
Many of them actively participating in oppressing kurds by joining Saddam's muxabarat .

Go talk to any Palestinian and ask their opinion about Kurds having their own country and see how surprised you will be . You cry rivers for the Palestinian and talk about their cause like it is your own , but they do not give a damn about you .Do you know what they call a person like you in Kurdish ?

A tu bo min beli tu xelki keriya ?

[PrettyLikeAPicture]

btw, welcome to this forum

ps. were are not anti-israeli. If you have a problem with that, I don't think your stay here will be pleasant

We? Who are 'we'? As far as I know this forum has 5000+ members With different opinions. If you think you can hold the megaphone for all these members, then you have to review your trashy pseudo-intellect.

[talsor]

we should focus on independence for kurdistan first. after all parts of kurdistan are independent,then we can support/ask for peaceul-talks between isrealis and palestinians.
this would hopefully stop most terrorist attacks against israel and palestinians would have a independent country to live peacefully in

and you think Palestinian would recognized Kurdistan if we declare independence ?

[max_b]

well im sure the thousands of Palestinian refugees arent celebrating, and there the people that should really be helped,
your right about the one statement about kurds, but that being said who sencerly has? palistine is the last people that can really help kurdistan anyway, when it comes down to it kurds and palistiane are in the same boat
like i said its all politics them brother in refugee camps arent calebrating nothing, maybe ramadan

You keep saying "it is politics " like the word mean something ! You are like an Israelis I met who was trying to validate selling weapons to turkey by saying its politics .

Heval :
Supporting a regime like Saddam was wrong
Not condemning his crime against Kurds is/was wrong
Not recognizing Kurdish rights is wrong
Many of them actively participating in oppressing kurds by joining Saddam's muxabarat .

Go talk to any Palestinian and ask their opinion about Kurds having their own country and see how surprised you will be . You cry rivers for the Palestinian and talk about their cause like it is your own , but they do not give a damn about you .Do you know what they call a person like you in Kurdish ?

A tu bo min beli tu xelki keriya ?

what you trying to say?

[PrettyLikeAPicture]

He is asking for proof for your statement about how Palestinians celebrated when Saddam attacked the Kurds. I would like to see some as well.

I don't care about the Israeli-Palestinian issue, since they don't care about Kurds.

It is true, my parents always told us about what those Palestinians did. Most of them became mukhabarat

Your parents... What a good source. I'm Pretty sure your patents Told you about kurdish traitors aswell, should we put the blame on all kurds now without Making difference between various groups?

[Rando]

we should focus on independence for kurdistan first. after all parts of kurdistan are independent,then we can support/ask for peaceul-talks between isrealis and palestinians.
this would hopefully stop most terrorist attacks against israel and palestinians would have a independent country to live peacefully in

and you think Palestinian would recognized Kurdistan if we declare independence ?

yes.
i dont think most palestinians are anti-kurdistan. ive meet no anti kurdistan palestinian in real life til now.
I know there were many palestinians in saddams army,but there were more kurdish jashes there than palestinan arabs.
and of course,if they dont recognize kurdistan we shouldn`t help them.