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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:12 pm

alan131210 wrote:It seems Barzani wants to send in the 4500 trained Peshmerga if WK but he is awaiting Assad to withdraw from Qamishlo , seems the plan is for least Kurdish casualties and avoid escalation as much as possible. And those allegations of PYD not allowing the deployment of WK Peshmerga turned out to Be not true according to Barzani interview with al Jazzera tv , he wants to fill in the security gap after Assad falls in WK not fight .


I knew it wasnt true. Many of our enemies make false news and try to "bring up " the Kurds against each other but this will hopefully never work again. :smile:

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:14 pm

Al Jazeera - President Barzani Confirmes Southern Kurds train their Syrian brethren

12/Jul/23

PNA - Salahadin,The Kurdish government is training Kurdish-Syrian fighters who will be sent back to defend Kurdish territory at home, says Kurdish regional President Masoud Barzani.

In an interview with Al Jazeera at the presidential palace near Erbil on Sunday, President Barzani confirmed for the first time the presence of a training camp in the Kurdish region.
 
The training puts yet another twist on complicated Kurdish relations and highlights major differences between the policy of the Kurdish regional government and Iraq’s central government towards neighbouring Syria.
 
“A good number of the young Kurds who fled have been trained. We do not want to interfere directly in the situation but they have been trained,” Pres.Barzani told Al Jazeera in his first interview in months. He said they have not yet been sent into Syria but are intended to be deployed there to fill any "security vacuum" as Syrian security forces retreat.
 
Pres.Barzani said the fighting force, made up largely of Syrian Kurds who deserted the army and made their way across the border, would take its orders from a new high committee formed two weeks ago when two major Kurdish opposition groups put aside their differences.
 
“They have not been sent to Syria. They are still here - if this high committee requires them to go they still could - if not they will wait for the situation to be sorted out because these people are from these areas and they will go back eventually,” he said. “This was aimed at filling the vacuum that will be created.”
 
'Unified' Kurdish position

“The best and the biggest support that we could provide is to have a united position and in this we were successful,” he said.
 
He said Syrian forces withdrew from several towns in the largely Kurdish al-Hasekah region which are now controlled by Kurdish fighters.
 
At Syria’s border crossing with northern Iraq, Iraqi officials said Syrian security forces on Sunday morning retook the border post from gunmen who had seized it.
 
The Iraqi and Syrian sides of the border post are just metres away. One Iraqi border official told us he had spoken with a lieutenant colonel of the Free Syrian Army who took control of the post along with Kurdish and Arab fighters.
 
They melted away though when Syrian security forces sent in helicopters to retake the Yarabiya crossing early Monday morning.
 
Iraq’s Shia-led central government has been treading a very careful line on Syria, warning of the dangers of arming the opposition and saying the Syrian people must decide on their own future.
 
Iraq has closed the gates to Syrian refugees, saying it does not have the resources to take care of them at its remote desert crossings. Humanitarian officials from one of the borders reported that Iraqi authorities on the weekend had handed a Syrian family seeking asylum back to Syrian authorities. One official said it was likely because the family included military-age men.
 
The United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) and aid organisations have appealed for Iraq to open the borders to Syrian civilians trying to escape the fighting.
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:27 pm

Great news kak alan.

Guys, what about the situation in Qamislo? What do you think will happen in the next few days?
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:38 pm

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Aljazeera's correspondent, Ahmad Al-Zawiti in Qamishlo: "Kurdish parties liberate the Kurdish Syrian cities, Not FSA

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The village of Sanjak is under control of Kurds. this pic is taken in Sanjak near city of TirpSpi.

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4 hours ago :Avend Akreyî - TCK ‏@Avend93
Qamişlo is now completely surrounded by a huge number of Assad thugs. - UPDATE. #TwitterKurds #Syria
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Ahmad zaweti-Qamishli today live

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Re: Ahmad zaweti-Qamishli today live

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:21 pm

brendar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd2JCI12ENI


Never thought i would see the day when arabs talk positively about Kurds . time have changed :-D , well I hope .
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:25 pm

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Re: Ahmad zaweti-Qamishli today live

PostAuthor: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:33 pm

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brendar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd2JCI12ENI


Never thought i would see the day when arabs talk positively about Kurds . time have changed :-D , well I hope .


Kak talsor, I hope that you will never ever change your view about arabs. Because arabs will never ever change their view towards kurds. Here is a video which i didn't want to post but i will do it so that you can never change your view again.

This is a shex who spoke about kurds yesterday in a talk show.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOvypRTN10&feature=youtube_gdata_player&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:36 pm

Kurdish control over Syria's north raises controversy, deep concerns

Reports indicating that Syrian Kurds have been gaining control over major Kurdish towns and cities near the Turkish border have sparked a debate on whether a new Kurdish self-governing region is emerging next to Iraqi Kurdistan and fueled concerns that the area may turn into a new base for the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

Syrian Kurdish groups have reportedly gained control of several towns, including Kobane and Efrin in Aleppo and Amude in the city of al-Hasakah, over the past few days, while negotiations with Syrian forces for the peaceful surrender of Qamishli, the biggest Kurdish city in Syria, are under way. Turkish media have published conflicting reports over what has been happening in the Kurdish areas of Syria since last week, when the Syrian forces were apparently moved from the north to Damascus and other regions to strike back at the opposition fighters after a major attack in the capital last Wednesday that killed the Syrian defense minister and two other senior officials. Some reports say the PKK has sent its militants to the Kurdish region in Syria while others maintained it was the peshmerga forces of the Iraqi Kurdish administration that have been dispatched to the area to “protect the Syrian Kurdish population from the PKK-affiliated Democratic Union Party [PYD].”

Kurdish authorities denied the latter claim. “A number of newspapers and websites have published reported [sic] that Kurdish Peshmerga forces have entered Kurdistan of Syria, but we firmly reject that news as baseless and far from the truth,” the website of the Kurdistan Region Presidency quoted a presidential spokesperson as saying.

Syrian Kurds, for their part, confirmed that Kurdish forces did enter recently from Iraqi Kurdistan but said they were Syrian Kurdish soldiers who had defected from the Syrian military, not peshmerga forces as reported by some media outlets and the Syrian Arab opposition.

“The Kurdish forces that recently entered from Iraqi Kurdistan into the Kurdish areas of Syria are Syrian Kurdish soldiers who defected from the Syrian army and resorted to Iraqi Kurdistan, where they received military training and got organized, and now they are back to participate in the liberation of their own cities and villages from the armed forces of the Assad regime,” a Syrian Kurdish activist, identified as Yilmaz Saeed, was quoted as saying on Kurdish website Rudaw. On Monday, the Turkish Vatan daily reported that some 2,000 PKK militants had been sent to the region. It was not possible to independently verify the report.

The Syrian Kurds were first divided over how to respond to a widespread revolt against President Bashar al-Assad’s rule, with the PYD supporting the Assad regime, saying its opponents are backed by foreign countries such as Turkey while an umbrella organization of more than 10 Kurdish parties -- named the Kurdish National Council (KNC) of Syria -- was more inclined to join the anti-Assad movement.

The differences between the Kurds as a whole and the Syrian National Council, the main Syrian opposition group, also appear to be deep. The KNC, which attended an SNC meeting in Cairo early this month, walked out of the meeting in protest of the Syrian opposition’s insistence to refer to Syria as an Arab nation and accept the Kurds’ existence as a separate nation.

The differences between the two Kurdish groups, the KNC and the PYD, were reconciled during a meeting summoned by Iraqi Kurdish leader Massoud Barzani last month in Arbil, northern Iraq. The two groups reportedly agreed to jointly run the Kurdish areas of Syria, creating three committees on foreign relations, peace and order and supervision of public services. The deal also appears to have been based on a mutual agreement that the Kurds will act on their own, aligning themselves neither with the Sunni Arab opposition nor the Assad regime.

Thus, when the Free Syrian Army, an armed opposition group of mostly Syrian army defectors, offered help, the armed wing of the Kurdish alliance, called Protection Forces, made it clear that they are neither needed nor welcome in the Kurdish region.

In a sign of PKK dominance, reports from the region also said the PKK flag, along with the Kurdish flag, was hoisted in state buildings in Kurdish towns “liberated” from the Syrian army.

Tensions with FSA

Turkey has long had troubled relations with the Iraqi Kurds because they offered a safe haven for the PKK in northern Iraq. But ties have improved drastically over the recent years after the Barzani administration committed to supporting Turkey’s counterterrorism efforts. But prospects that the Barzani-brokered deal among the Syrian Kurds may pave the way for a new Kurdish autonomous region next to the Iraqi Kurdistan where the PKK calls the shots have already raised worries in Turkey.

Another source of concern is whether the de facto Kurdish autonomy in northern Syria would speed up the feared disintegration of Syria by sparking tensions between the Arab opposition and the Kurds, in addition to the already raging battle between the pro-Assad Alawites and the Sunni Arab opposition.

Speaking to Today’s Zaman, a senior FSA commander played down prospects for Kurdish separatism, saying the PKK and the PYD do not have popular support. Malik al-Kurdi, the FSA’s deputy leader, speaking in an interview in Hatay province on the Syrian border, claimed the PYD was unpopular because of its pro-Assad actions. Al-Kurdi also said the Syrian Kurds would not be willing to create their own state within Syria and vowed to stop if there is ever an attempt to this effect. “The FSA will never let it happen,” he said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-287438- ... cerns.html
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:44 pm

brendar wrote:[size=150]

Speaking to Today’s Zaman, a senior FSA commander played down prospects for Kurdish separatism, saying the PKK and the PYD do not have popular support. Malik al-Kurdi, the FSA’s deputy leader, speaking in an interview in Hatay province on the Syrian border, claimed the PYD was unpopular because of its pro-Assad actions. Al-Kurdi also said the Syrian Kurds would not be willing to create their own state within Syria and vowed to stop if there is ever an attempt to this effect. “The FSA will never let it happen,” he said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-287438- ... cerns.html



Just talk to make the Turks more happy.

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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: brendar » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:47 pm

Kurdistano wrote:
brendar wrote:[size=150]

Speaking to Today’s Zaman, a senior FSA commander played down prospects for Kurdish separatism, saying the PKK and the PYD do not have popular support. Malik al-Kurdi, the FSA’s deputy leader, speaking in an interview in Hatay province on the Syrian border, claimed the PYD was unpopular because of its pro-Assad actions. Al-Kurdi also said the Syrian Kurds would not be willing to create their own state within Syria and vowed to stop if there is ever an attempt to this effect. “The FSA will never let it happen,” he said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-287438- ... cerns.html



Just talk to make the Turks more happy.


Exactly, i just commented on that and when i clicked on submit, guess what poped up?

"Your comment will shortly be read by the Today's Zaman Internet editorial team. If it is selected for publication it would normally appear on the site within the next few hours. Due to the high volume of emails received by us we cannot guarantee that your comments will be published."

We all know that they just simply make up anything that is in favor of "turks"!!
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Re: Ahmad zaweti-Qamishli today live

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:48 pm

brendar wrote:
talsor wrote:
brendar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd2JCI12ENI


Never thought i would see the day when arabs talk positively about Kurds . time have changed :-D , well I hope .


Kak talsor, I hope that you will never ever change your view about arabs. Because arabs will never ever change their view towards kurds. Here is a video which i didn't want to post but i will do it so that you can never change your view again.

This is a shex who spoke about kurds yesterday in a talk show.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOvypRTN10&feature=youtube_gdata_player&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&hd=1   


Heval ,
Be kurdistanawa if arab give me kurdistan on a plate of gold I will reject it . No one ever gave a damn about us and the only time they say something positive about us is when they need us .
I have seen too much in my life to change my views :-D .
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Re: Kurdistan forces are liberating Western Kurdistan

PostAuthor: talsor » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:52 pm

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Amûdê today: Raising the Kurdish at the top of the highest tower in the city.

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