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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sat May 19, 2012 12:35 pm

jjmuneer wrote:You know it is funny actually Bale for Yes is actually Arabic, maybe I'm wrong. But when I Baghdad Arabs always say Bale for yes or ok. We Kurd Faylis say Ah for Yes.


true , arabs say (beli) , while kurds say bellê , same word but sounds different . Soranis also use ; A , Baş , Başe , ê , waye , Raste . and EK use (erê) which comes from persian Arê.

but arabs mostly use (ne3em) for yes .
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PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sat May 19, 2012 2:15 pm

alan131210 wrote:
kurd-sthanam wrote:nice, sydney :)

i thought you have program, but its better when we have sorani expert here thanks. :)
i think the grammar seems not so hard, but how would you say this:

i saw my father - (min bavê xwe dît)

and why do you use -eke in soranî (my house: mallim/mallekem)


i saw my father - mn baukm bini or baukm dini/bini

ekem is used for ownership of tangible assets and its like (mine , my) , for eg , Siyarekem (my car) , Clekem (my cloths) , Mallekem/Xanuekem (my house) , hinekem (my thing) lol.

i am not a Sorani expert or a teacher , anyone like me who has studied in SK , knows as much grammer as me , lol 12 years of school will make you good at your grammer ;).

Ekem in Kurdish fayli means I will do.
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PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sat May 19, 2012 2:16 pm

alan131210 wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:You know it is funny actually Bale for Yes is actually Arabic, maybe I'm wrong. But when I Baghdad Arabs always say Bale for yes or ok. We Kurd Faylis say Ah for Yes.


true , arabs say (beli) , while kurds say bellê , same word but sounds different . Soranis also use ; A , Baş , Başe , ê , waye , Raste . and EK use (erê) which comes from persian Arê.

but arabs mostly use (ne3em) for yes .

Ere is persian, we don't use Ere, but Ah. Not all eastern Kurds are soranis.
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PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sat May 19, 2012 2:37 pm

jjmuneer wrote:Ekem in Kurdish fayli means I will do.


ekem in western kurmanji means i will shit :D

and NK and WK kurds say also erê most of the time.
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PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sat May 19, 2012 3:21 pm

alan131210 wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:You know it is funny actually Bale for Yes is actually Arabic, maybe I'm wrong. But when I Baghdad Arabs always say Bale for yes or ok. We Kurd Faylis say Ah for Yes.


true , arabs say (beli) , while kurds say bellê , same word but sounds different . Soranis also use ; A , Baş , Başe , ê , waye , Raste . and EK use (erê) which comes from persian Arê.

but arabs mostly use (ne3em) for yes .


no no,
we in northkurdistan say also ere. not only east kurds.
and we say "A, E, Raste, Basch"

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sat May 19, 2012 4:24 pm

well you learn something new every day :D.

jj when i said EK say Ere , i meant the Sorani area as i have only been to the Sorani area and most of EK is Sorani speakers anyway so i mean in general, just like SK . you always take my words and twist it some how , you gotta stop it .
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PostAuthor: unitedkurdistan » Sat May 19, 2012 5:54 pm

kurd-sthanam wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Ekem in Kurdish fayli means I will do.


ekem in western kurmanji means i will shit :D

and NK and WK kurds say also erê most of the time.



He means: go ekem= i am shitting:P I also say ekem.

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PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sat May 19, 2012 6:23 pm

unitedkurdistan wrote:
kurd-sthanam wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Ekem in Kurdish fayli means I will do.


ekem in western kurmanji means i will shit :D

and NK and WK kurds say also erê most of the time.



He means: go ekem= i am shitting:P I also say ekem.


no i dont mean that, "ekim" means i will shit and "etkim" mean i do shit. ek=go. we can realy misunderstand sorani speakers lol
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sun May 20, 2012 2:35 am

jjmuneer wrote:You know it is funny actually Bale for Yes is actually Arabic, maybe I'm wrong. But when I Baghdad Arabs always say Bale for yes or ok. We Kurd Faylis say Ah for Yes.


Rasta heval (it is true friend )

The word "Belê " is derived from the Arabic word "بلى" which means yes . The word for yes should be "erê " or "A" .
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PostAuthor: talsor » Sun May 20, 2012 2:48 am

kurd-sthanam wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Ekem in Kurdish fayli means I will do.


ekem in western kurmanji means i will shit :D



where did you come up with that ? Ekem does not mean that at all . Perhaps as a slang and depending on the situation it could mean variety of things . It could also mean I will go to make love as a slang , but the word Ekem as a standard Kurmaji means "I will do "
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun May 20, 2012 2:56 am

in Sorani, when you say "Ekem" by itself it means "i'll do it"

Krdn = doing / eg: îş krdn = doing work
Krdî/krd = he/she did it / eg: Ew krdî = he/she did it , Ew îşekeî krd = he/she did the work
Eîka/eka = he/she will do it / eg: ew eîka = he is doing it , ew îşeke eka = he will do the work
Eîkem/ekem = i am doing it / eg: xom eîkem = ill do it myself , mn xom îşeke ekem = i will do the work myself
kra/krd = done / eg: îşeke kra = the work is done , ewan îşekeyan krd = they did the work , ké îşekeî krd = who did the work

however when "ekem" is used after a word like "Mallekem , îşekem or hawserekem" , here its a totally different meaning or word all together , as it means "mine or my" when it comes at the end of a word.
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PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Sun May 20, 2012 10:16 am

talsor wrote:
where did you come up with that ? Ekem does not mean that at all . Perhaps as a slang and depending on the situation it could mean variety of things . It could also mean I will go to make love as a slang , but the word Ekem as a standard Kurmaji means "I will do "


hehe why sould i say this, in my dialect wich is spoken in the most west parts of kurdistan "ekim" means 100% that.

"i do" in standard kurmanji is dikim, and in other accents its dikim, dekim, dikem or tikim an so. in my accent or dialect we say tkim/tikim.

and in our dialect "ek" means shit. but when you make verb of it, it turns to just "e", so "ekim" is shortening of "e bikim" and "etkim" is shortening of "e tikim". :D


alan131210 wrote:in Sorani, when you say "Ekem" by itself it means "i'll do it"

Krdn = doing / eg: îş krdn = doing work
Krdî/krd = he/she did it / eg: Ew krdî = he/she did it , Ew îşekeî krd = he/she did the work
Eîka/eka = he/she will do it / eg: ew eîka = he is doing it , ew îşeke eka = he will do the work
Eîkem/ekem = i am doing it / eg: xom eîkem = ill do it myself , mn xom îşeke ekem = i will do the work myself
kra/krd = done / eg: îşeke kra = the work is done , ewan îşekeyan krd = they did the work , ké îşekeî krd = who did the work

however when "ekem" is used after a word like "Mallekem , îşekem or hawserekem" , here its a totally different meaning or word all together , as it means "mine or my" when it comes at the end of a word.


wow i could write it for you in sorani when you had writen only the english parts :D, i'm learning it.

is îş not a turkic word? we use it also but in TV they use most Kar. turks have no realy ethimology dictonaries because they are afraid showing loanwords and in the official turkish language website, all what writes is fake. so i look sometimes in a dictonary written by an armenian http://www.nisanyansozluk.com/ here there stay its a word comming from old turkic. but big part of the dictonary is loanwords.
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PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun May 20, 2012 10:22 am

alan131210 wrote:well you learn something new every day :D.

jj when i said EK say Ere , i meant the Sorani area as i have only been to the Sorani area and most of EK is Sorani speakers anyway so i mean in general, just like SK . you always take my words and twist it some how , you gotta stop it .

I'm not, but Khalors, Faylis(Kirmanshahis aswell), and Laks are all Pahliwani speakers. I know there are more Sorani speakers, but there are still millions of Pahliwani speakers aswell, I haven't really visited the Sorani areas properly that is why.
Bro you generalise too much that is why I get confused, you should be more specific lol.
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PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Sun May 20, 2012 10:23 am

For shit we say Gu
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun May 20, 2012 11:01 am

jjmuneer wrote:For shit we say Gu


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