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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:28 pm

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jjmuneer wrote:Why do Feylis speak Sorani in Khanaqin?


when they visit Slemani kirkuk and Hawler, or when they come across a sorani in khanaqin otherwise they speak feyli and sounds nice :) .

Thanks for clarifying. This is like the same in Baghdad.
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:31 pm

jjmuneer wrote:Thanks for clarifying. This is like the same in Baghdad.


when i use to live in Slemani my neighbor Kak Ali was a Feyli and they spoke Feyli at home but outside it was Sorani ,he now have moved back to Khanaqin.

and i have heard SK and EK Feyli , obviously EK Feylis have more persian words and more difficult at the time to comprehend .
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:08 am

alan131210 wrote:
jjmuneer wrote:Thanks for clarifying. This is like the same in Baghdad.


when i use to live in Slemani my neighbor Kak Ali was a Feyli and they spoke Feyli at home but outside it was Sorani ,he now have moved back to Khanaqin.

and i have heard SK and EK Feyli , obviously EK Feylis have more persian words and more difficult at the time to comprehend .

That is a myth, there are only a few Persian words in Fayli, Kermanshahi is as Persian as it gets. The only real difference is that Feyli spoken in Kermanshah, Ilam and Hamadan are in it's "purer" forms, and the accent.
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:11 am

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jjmuneer wrote:Thanks for clarifying. This is like the same in Baghdad.


when i use to live in Slemani my neighbor Kak Ali was a Feyli and they spoke Feyli at home but outside it was Sorani ,he now have moved back to Khanaqin.

and i have heard SK and EK Feyli , obviously EK Feylis have more persian words and more difficult at the time to comprehend .

That is a myth, there are only a few Persian words in Fayli, Kermanshahi is as Persian as it gets. The only real difference is that Feyli spoken in Kermanshah, Ilam and Hamadan are in it's "purer" forms, and the accent.


i meant Feylis from kermashan use more persian words and SK use more arabic borrowed words for obvious reasons , no myth but facts and i have heard with my own ears .
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:39 am

even the Ilam Feylis use alot of persian words but yeah not as bad as a kermashani , for example the feyli from ilam i knew used alot of persian words like ba qawli ma3ruf , kishwar , drust hisabi and so on . but KRG Feylis have an advantage as kurdish is been taught in schools , tv radio everything is feyli and they use kurdish words alot instead of arabic which is clearing the kurdish language of arabic borrowed words .
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:38 am

alan131210 wrote:even the Ilam Feylis use alot of persian words but yeah not as bad as a kermashani , for example the feyli from ilam i knew used alot of persian words like ba qawli ma3ruf , kishwar , drust hisabi and so on . but KRG Feylis have an advantage as kurdish is been taught in schools , tv radio everything is feyli and they use kurdish words alot instead of arabic which is clearing the kurdish language of arabic borrowed words .

Sorry I didn't get that. What "drust hisabi"?
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:47 am

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alan131210 wrote:even the Ilam Feylis use alot of persian words but yeah not as bad as a kermashani , for example the feyli from ilam i knew used alot of persian words like ba qawli ma3ruf , kishwar , drust hisabi and so on . but KRG Feylis have an advantage as kurdish is been taught in schools , tv radio everything is feyli and they use kurdish words alot instead of arabic which is clearing the kurdish language of arabic borrowed words .

Sorry I didn't get that. What "drust hisabi"?


drust 7isabi , a persian word which means reasonable
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:50 am

^I've never heard a Fayli say it, I think your confusing this with Kirmanshahi. Fayli is original Kurdish, it's pehlawani.
Do you count "Xu" or "Xub as corruption aswell?
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:02 pm

jjmuneer wrote:^I've never heard a Fayli say it, I think your confusing this with Kirmanshahi. Fayli is original Kurdish, it's pehlawani.
Do you count "Xu" or "Xub as corruption aswell?


na i dont know that one , what does it mean !?
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: jjmuneer » Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:17 pm

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jjmuneer wrote:^I've never heard a Fayli say it, I think your confusing this with Kirmanshahi. Fayli is original Kurdish, it's pehlawani.
Do you count "Xu" or "Xub as corruption aswell?


na i dont know that one , what does it mean !?

It just means OK or Basha, the video of the EK Faylis you showed on the other thread is Ilami Fayli. Its true that some youth mix up Fayli and Persian, but that is only when they are speaking to other youth. The older generation like to speak Kurd Fayli.
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:28 pm

this is what anywhere looks like after it has KRG's blessings , while the other unannxed part of Khanaqin(Jalawla,Sadyea,Qara tappa and Mandali) look like shitholes but hopefully this will reachthem too once Peshemrga is deployed inside of them .

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Feyli Kurds criticize "deliberate marginalize" from HRC

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:52 am

Feyli Kurds criticize "deliberate marginalize" from the Human Rights Commission

Erbil, April 24 (AKnews) - new Faili Kurds criticism of what they described as "exclusion" and "marginalized" by the political forces, despite what they have suffered from the policies of the former regime, noting that "the absence of deliberate" them from the Office of Human Rights was a "violation "'legitimate rights.

The Confederation of Democratic Kurdish Faili in a statement received by the Kurdish news agency (Rn) a copy of Tuesday, said that "senior officials of the state and all political parties and blocs declare that they want justice for Faili Kurds because they are more Iraqis affected by the policies of the former regime, being subjected to genocide by the rule Iraqi High Criminal Court and the decisions of the Iraqi Council of Representatives. "

He said, "but notice what every fair-minded Iraqis is the survival of the vast majority of these promises are just words and declarations without being translated into actions and actions on the ground."

According to the statement, "The last exclusion suffered by the Kurds Faili is Ngyibhm in the formation of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, which stipulates Article Eight law that the share of minorities is not less than the original member and another member of a reserve, despite being subjected to genocide and the violation of all their human rights."

While the statement stressed that "all Iraqis, and political forces, in particular, knew what he was subjected Faili Kurds from oppression and persecution during the rule of the former regime," noted that "the exclusion in which he was a candidate Kurds Alvelin Riyadh Jasim Mohammed in the formation of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights is nothing but the consecration of the absence of deliberate by the political forces of the component Faili Kurds have been directly affected policies of the former regime and committing genocide against them. "

He said the "duplication in dealing with the Kurds Faili dark cast on the credibility of their statements and promises fairly this component and causing the vast majority of it has serious doubts about the seriousness and credibility of these statements and promises of politicians."

The statement said that "There is a series of exclusion Faili Kurds of state institutions of importance, the most prominent of which exclude them from the quota system, which included components of Iraq the other one exception is the component Kurdish Faili, and the Office of the Faili Kurds in the presidency, and the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, in addition to the series last began around the year from among those included Chief of Media and Communications and Chairman of Shawi proof of the Electoral Commission Faraj al-Haidari and try to shut down the radio Kurdish Faili the only radio station in the Baghdad twilight, in addition to the new threat of ethnic cleansing in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq. "

He called the Democratic Union Kurdish Faili "all political parties that equated their actions and practices with their statements and promises in the half-Faili Kurds to take practical measures in their favor in all areas related to them," pointing to the importance that "the Riyadh Jasim Mohammed Philly representative of the response Faili in the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, private and that he was Kurdish Faili only one who reached the final stage consisting of (48) candidates, "the statement said.

He concluded by inviting "all the characters and the political forces and Iraqi civil society organizations, especially the Kurdish Faili, to support Riad Philly to be within the Council of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, because this is a right of the component Kurdish Faili, who has been the most heinous and Aks human rights violations are still being discriminated against so far."

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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:26 am

Khanaqin has always been part of kurdistan , indeed when islam and arabs came to iraq , in Jalawla the kurds put up a good fight its also knowns as "Qawqa" battle.
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$3m water project to ease river dryness in Khanaqin launched

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:24 am

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GARMIYAN, June 1 (AKnews)- Kurdistan Ministry of Agriculture launched a water project yesterday which is due to help overcome the dryness of Alvand River in the territorially disputed Khanaqin city and its surrounding areas.

The 3.8 km project which conducts the water from Balajo to the dried out Alvand River is worth of 3.5b IQD (approx. $3,002,487), Minister Sirwan Bababn told a press conference.

The project crosses over Sirwan River.

As Iran changed the course of Alvand in the past few years, Khanaqin and its surrounding areas suffered from drought and the underground water level in the area lowered, said Hidayat Jawhar, a member of Garmiyan Farmers Union.

The projects aims at conducting water to 1,400 acres of orchard and farmland, said Taher Mohammed, Khanaqin irrigation director.  

Khanaqin Firefighting Station figures suggest that in the past two years due to lack of irrigation water and dryness of Alvand River more than 50 orchards were burnt down to change the agricultural lands to residential plots.   

The dryness of the Alvand River which flows in from Iran led to some protest demonstrations.

Activists who claim Iran is building bridges over the river within its own territories once closed the Parvizkhan border gate and staged various campaigns to press the authorities solve the issue with Iranian officials.

The efforts, however, led to no avail.
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Re: KRG allocates 20 Billion IQD for Khanaqin in 2013

PostAuthor: kirkuk1 » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:47 am

I am so glad that KRG is investing and spending money on these isolated areas , they need it the most .

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