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My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sun May 25, 2008 4:38 pm

Kurdish language = Zimanê Kurdî

  • Kurmancî - Northern Kurdish- Kurdîya bakurî
    Dialects: Sanjari, Judikani; Urfi, Botani, Serhedi, Hekkari, Cizirî; Bahdînî, Torî, Xerzî, Surchi, Qochani, Birjandi, Alburzi, Herki, Shikaki, Marashkî, Central-Dialect (at Diyarbakir)
  • Soranî - Central Kurdish - Kurdîya navîn
    Dialects: Arbili, Pishdari, Khanaqini, Mukri; Sulaimani, Ardalani, Sanandaji, Warmawa, Garmiyani, Jafi; Judeo-Kurdish
  • Kirmancahî - Southern Kurdish - Kurdîya başurî
    Dialects:
    - Kelhurî, Kolyai, Kirmanshahi, Garrusi, Sanjabi, Malekshahi, Bayray, Kordali
    - Leki, Biranavendî, Kurdshûlî (in Fars), Shêx Bizinî (in the Turkey, mainly in ankara), Feylî (in Ilam), Silaxûrî und Xacevendî (in Mazandaran).

Against the persian assimilation its were good, if the kurds use Kirmancahî for the Southern Group of Kurdish.
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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sun May 25, 2008 4:51 pm

Etymology of the word Kurmanc, Kirmanc, Kermanc
- The Hawrams call the Kurmanc as "Kermanc"
- many azeris call the kurds as "qerman" or "kerman"
- The word Kurmanc or Kirmanc (i think Kirmanc is older) comes probably of kirman- (of kirman-shah), and this of kerman- (kerman+shah) of the sassanidian time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermanshah#Naming_Dispute

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerman

i think kurds were a sassanidian group, if you look to the so called "middle persian", then you can see kurmanci.

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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sun May 25, 2008 5:36 pm

i updated the classification.

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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Sun May 25, 2008 6:25 pm

the classification of the kurdisch language from mamûste baran ibn ruciyar:

http://qirayis.de/archiv/albums/userpic ... zweige.png

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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon May 26, 2008 12:02 pm

Your invention of a classification;).
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: Mamma Mia » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:18 pm

What Kurdish Language? Sorani or Kurmanci?

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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: matin123 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:29 am

what's the difference between ardalani and sanandaji? and isn't judeo kurdish aramaic?
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Re: My classification of Kurdish Language + etymology of kurmanc

PostAuthor: Teshub » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:42 pm

A more logical explanation for the etymology of Kurmanj may be the word ''Cimmerian'' (kimerian).
Cimmerians were a prominant indo-European people in Anatolia and whole of Kurdistan. their name can be etymologically traced to the word Kurmanj, (name of Kurds in Kurdish for themselves.)

yet a much more possible etymology is that the name ''Kurmanj'' derives from the toponym ''Armenia''. Armenia was a name given in ancient times to eastern Anatolia. The people today claim to be Armenian never used the term themselves as an ethonym.
The name Kurmanj can be well developed from Elamite Xarminuya. Greeks who recorded the name as ''Armenioi'' often used to omit Iranian initial x, as in Xosrow > Osroes, . Since Iranic x has developed to k in modern Kurdish, hence we get karmanuya, the base of Kurmanj/Kirmanj/Kormanj/kermanj.

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