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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:04 pm

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maybe bcoz he is Bahdini and speaks Sorani , if we speak a clear Sorani i think most of Kurmanji will be like :shock: lol . plus which part of the video you dont get !


ah ok. so barzani family is badini(kurmanc)? when yes maybe therefor. i dont understand sorani speakers in general. and most if they speak fluent to each other. and if its halparke song its a whole other language. but in slow songs i can understand a little. i understand part of what chopy, azhdar wahbi and some others sing first after some time i hear.

we can speak with each with sorani speakers here in a way because we have worked together. but many others cant communicate. when you speak with each other i stay like you wrote :shock: .i met one from silemani we spoke danish first but when we knew we are both kurds he sad you anatolians speak ugly and un-kurdish first but there was an other one from silemani he spoke 100% our dialect/accent even with turkish loanwords, i was shocked when i knew he was from SK and silemani lol
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:40 am

yeah there are arrogant people everywhere , but i personally love all dialects it is what make kurdish language so rich so beautiful :D.
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:28 pm

Mountain: ax
Hill : Gird
Land: xak , wişkayî , Eriz
Desert : Byaban
Sea: Derya
Sand: Lim
Sky: Asman
Lake: Deryaçe
Mud: Qûrr , qûrr û lîte
Space: Boşayî asman
Galaxy: Gerdûn
Environment: Jînge
Air: Hewa
Dust: Toz , tozû xoll
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:41 pm

an other turkmen loan: boş :D
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: unitedkurdistan » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:30 pm

How come you say qoll for arm and bin ball for arm pit when arm is also ball?
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:51 pm

unitedkurdistan wrote:How come you say qoll for arm and bin ball from arm pit when arm is also ball?


arm is Qoll/basik in SK and in the standard Sorani dictionary , bin ball is armpit .

kurd-sthanam wrote:an other turkmen loan: boş :D


what is that ?
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:47 pm

alan131210 wrote:
kurd-sthanam wrote:an other turkmen loan: boş :D


what is that ?


boşayî asman

possibly other loan:
dust : toz ( modern turkish toz, old turkic tog, mongolian togusun)

by the way, these are not part of anatomy :D
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:19 am

kurd-sthanam wrote:
alan131210 wrote:
kurd-sthanam wrote:an other turkmen loan: boş :D


what is that ?


boşayî asman

possibly other loan:
dust : toz ( modern turkish toz, old turkic tog, mongolian togusun)

by the way, these are not part of anatomy :D


well "boş" has a different meaning by itself , so i dont think it is a turkish loan word :lol: and "boşayî" means emptiness and we say "betall" for empty , what does "boş" and "boşayî" mean in turkish !?

if it is used by itself it means "neutral" for gears in cars i.e: otombîleke le boşe : the car is in neutral. and the "eke" used at the end of the word stands for "the" .

And "toz" is not used alone , its "tepû toz" or "xoll".

and i want to you correct you on one thing , stop saying these loan words are from turkmen , they are a tiny population and only exist in Kerkuk in whole of SK the rest are in iraq . if we do have some loan words it will be leftover from the ottoman era not the turkmen lol . ;)

And i think it is a hypocrisy if you show concerns over "unlikely" ottoman era loan words in SK , while most of the NK TODAY "speak turkish" .
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:56 am

alan131210 wrote:
well "boş" has a different meaning by itself , so i dont think it is a turkish loan word :lol: and "boşayî" means emptiness and we say "betall" for empty , what does "boş" and "boşayî" mean in turkish !?

if it is used by itself it means "neutral" for gears in cars i.e: otombîleke le boşe : the car is in neutral. and the "eke" used at the end of the word stands for "the" .

And "toz" is not used alone , its "tepû toz" or "xoll".

and i want to you correct you on one thing , stop saying these loan words are from turkmen , they are a tiny population and only exist in Kerkuk in whole of SK the rest are in iraq . if we do have some loan words it will be leftover from the ottoman era not the turkmen lol . ;)

And i think it is a hypocrisy if you show concerns over "unlikely" ottoman era loan words in SK , while most of the NK TODAY "speak turkish" .


hehe no i have no concerns over you about language about language i have only concerns in other parts. loanwords are natural and doesnt make the language so poor. i am against cleaning very common loanwords with uncommon kurdish word for it, until kurdish are educated and it is high enought people can be used to regulating the language. this is a very big mistake NK kurds do. a kurdish language with many loanwords is better than other language. we use also Îş, boş, toz turkish words.

boş in turkish means empty, we use it also. boşluk is emptyness. >araba boşlukta> or >araba boşta> means the car is in neutral. we say >erbê ti boşêdae>

we have also >tal> for empty but we use most >boş>

most of the NK is toooo much, they speak bad kurdish and most cant write and read kurdish correct but minimum 80% speak kurdish. we even speak 90% kurdish in anatolia

I looked in the turkish etimology dictionary, i found only 1000 turkish words, 4000 arabic and 2000 persian. and 150-200 of these turkish words are created by ataturk by a reform :lol:
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:17 am

kurd-sthanam wrote:we have also >tal> for empty


no that is a different word in Sorani .

We don't have "tal" , we have:

Tall = bitter
Betall = empty

and we only use "boşayî" for space and "boş" for neutral . :).
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: kurd-sthanam » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:08 pm

alan131210 wrote:
kurd-sthanam wrote:we have also >tal> for empty


no that is a different word in Sorani .

We don't have "tal" , we have:

Tall = bitter
Betall = empty

and we only use "boşayî" for space and "boş" for neutral . :).


we use "te'l" for bitter, pronounced te3l. Tal for empty (we pronounce the E as sorani E, not how the other kurmanci speaker and badini speaker pronounce. and A is pronounced as persian long A)
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:07 pm

kurd-sthanam wrote:
alan131210 wrote:
kurd-sthanam wrote:we have also >tal> for empty


no that is a different word in Sorani .

We don't have "tal" , we have:

Tall = bitter
Betall = empty

and we only use "boşayî" for space and "boş" for neutral . :).


we use "te'l" for bitter, pronounced te3l. Tal for empty (we pronounce the E as sorani E, not how the other kurmanci speaker and badini speaker pronounce. and A is pronounced as persian long A)


very close with the bitter , and yeah the empty though is wee bit different .
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: talsor » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:12 pm

Şê (kurmanji)
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: talsor » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:16 pm

Pişt (Kurmanji)
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Re: Anatomi Kurdi

PostAuthor: talsor » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:18 pm

Sing (Kurmanji)
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