Roj Bash Kurdistan

Diri wrote:

Parsi wrote:I can speak some Sorani, but I have an easier time understanding the Kurdi of Kermanshah, which I guess is Gorani, because it's closer to Parsi. I like Sorani much better though. It has more "umph" to it

Soranî of Sablax (Mahabad) is the best Soranî, bro... Have you been to Sablax?

No, unfortunately I have not been to what is known today as "West Azarbaijan" (which is rediculous because that region use to be a part of Kurdistan). I hear there is a lot of pre-Aryan history there though. Mannean, I think?

Either way, I'm sure it is beautiful because my cousin lives around Urmia and she sent me pictures. Btw I've never heard it be called Sablax...maybe the locals call it that? Mahabad is a very pretty name though. They probably have a great view of the moon from there

Diri wrote:

kurdangel wrote:

Other Kurdish dialects/languages also Indo-Iranian...

its not indo-iranian, but indo-Europian

BTW: i speak Sorani.

Nope... Let me explain;

Indo European is the whole of the tree...

The branch of the tree which Kurdish belongs to is called Indo-Iranian...


And I speak Kurmancî...

oh .. i didn't knew that

kurdangel wrote:

Diri wrote:

kurdangel wrote:

Other Kurdish dialects/languages also Indo-Iranian...

its not indo-iranian, but indo-Europian

BTW: i speak Sorani.

Nope... Let me explain;

Indo European is the whole of the tree...

The branch of the tree which Kurdish belongs to is called Indo-Iranian...


And I speak Kurmancî...

oh .. i didn't knew that

I prefere to call it "Indo-Aryan" branch of the tree actually... Because "Iranian" is often just associated with "Iran"...

Well we learn something new every day, xûshka min...

Diri wrote:

kurdangel wrote:

Diri wrote:

kurdangel wrote:

Other Kurdish dialects/languages also Indo-Iranian...

its not indo-iranian, but indo-Europian

BTW: i speak Sorani.

Nope... Let me explain;

Indo European is the whole of the tree...

The branch of the tree which Kurdish belongs to is called Indo-Iranian...


And I speak Kurmancî...

oh .. i didn't knew that

I prefere to call it "Indo-Aryan" branch of the tree actually... Because "Iranian" is often just associated with "Iran"...

Well we learn something new every day, xûshka min...

But Indo-aryan simply means Indic branch of Indo-Iranian languages!

Notice:


Indo-European:=> Indo-Iranian => Iranian => Kurdish/pashtun/Persian etc..

Indo-European: => Indo-Iranian => Indo-Aryan => Hindustani/Sindhi/ Bengali/Punjabi etc..

Some also suggest a third branch of Dardic:


Indo-European: => Indo-Iranian => Dardic.

Aryan = Iranian...

Diri wrote:Aryan = Iranian...

In etymology of the wod ''Iranian'' yes, but in modern linguistics not exactly.

Gudea wrote:

Diri wrote:Aryan = Iranian...

In etymology of the wod ''Iranian'' yes, but in modern linguistics not exactly.

Well then just take my words litterally;


I prefere to call it "Indo-Aryan" branch of the tree actually... Because "Iranian" is often just associated with "Iran"...



"I am not as novice as you think" - were those your words? Well I will apply them now...

Diri wrote:

Gudea wrote:

Diri wrote:Aryan = Iranian...

In etymology of the wod ''Iranian'' yes, but in modern linguistics not exactly.

Well then just take my words litterally;


I prefere to call it "Indo-Aryan" branch of the tree actually... Because "Iranian" is often just associated with "Iran"...



"I am not as novice as you think" - were those your words? Well I will apply them now...

But that is not accurate!

We have an Indo-Iranian which has two branchs: Iranian (or Iranic) + Indo-Aryan (or Aryan)

You can use the term Iranic instead.

BTW, what you said is not totally wrong, but is not mainstream.

Gudea wrote:

Diri wrote:

Gudea wrote:

Diri wrote:Aryan = Iranian...

In etymology of the wod ''Iranian'' yes, but in modern linguistics not exactly.

Well then just take my words litterally;


I prefere to call it "Indo-Aryan" branch of the tree actually... Because "Iranian" is often just associated with "Iran"...



"I am not as novice as you think" - were those your words? Well I will apply them now...

But that is not accurate!

We have an Indo-Iranian which has two branchs: Iranian (or Iranic) + Indo-Aryan (or Aryan)

You can use the term Iranic instead.

BTW, what you said is not totally wrong, but is not mainstream.

I am well aware of that Gudea... That's why I say "I prefere to call it..."!

I said it as I meant it... Why make such a big fuss, Gudea?

Aryan, Iranian, same thing.

Let's not get carried away over such little details

What matters is that you both speak Kurdish.

Kurds==Indo-European

the rest is just curry !!

Parsi wrote:Aryan, Iranian, same thing.

Let's not get carried away over such little details

What matters is that you both speak Kurdish.

Indeed...


Womanizer ----> Why do you insist that Kurdish is not related to other Aryan (Iranian) languages?

It's realy a bit meaningless to deny the truth when it's been a known fact for the last 2000 years...

is not Iranian branch at all, i will bring my reason.
There is no such thing as Iranian family or civilization and so on... this all happen during 20 century when new borders created and a lot related research and history has been monopolised based on existence states. i can bring billion reasons.. All this so called Iranian bunch crap and paranoia.
I will post in smoother terms in some other times.

womanizer wrote:is not Iranian branch at all, i will bring my reason.
There is no such thing as Iranian family or civilization and so on... this all happen during 20 century when new borders created and a lot related research and history has been monopolised based on existence states. i can bring billion reasons.. All this so called Iranian bunch crap and paranoia.
I will post in smoother terms in some other times.

I and others await your theory or "proof" as soon as possible...

But untill you prove 99% of the worlds educated proffessors and scholars and intellectuals - by refuting the term "Indo-Iranian" - I and others will keep calling it that...

So untill you prove "Indo-Iranian" wrong, it will remain so...

Excitedly I await your proof...

dude!! you didnt get point!!
that is why it required 100 page to explain to you.which i dont have time now...
also there is no proves as such as iranian, becoaus eeveryone have copy one on another,...you need open yourmind look it in wider directions.
so as i said you can called what ever you like
we Kurds called Kurdish are branch of Indo-Europain languages, it stay there.