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Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: zportoshki » Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:46 pm

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Loanwords in kurdish

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:11 pm

persian, pehlevi, armenian and other indo-european languages has the same root as kurdish.

so its the same stupid comment as:

turkish:

50 khazak words
70 uzbek words
600 mongol words

you mongols have no logicaly, your brain is so littly like a bean.

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: zportoshki » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:03 pm

Johny Bravo wrote:persian, pehlevi, armenian and other indo-european languages has the same root as kurdish.

so its the same stupid comment as:

turkish:

50 khazak words
70 uzbek words
600 mongol words

you mongols have no logicaly, your brain is so littly like a bean.


1500 years ago
where are your ''great indo-european kurds''
in France ?
I can not see any kurd on this map
But you can see my Turks on this map
Avar,Gokturk,Oguz,Karluk,Hazar....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Avars
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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:09 pm

you ugly mongols,

the proto-indoeuropeans were from the region anatolia and mesopotamia! kurds are medes.

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: zportoshki » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:18 pm

Johny Bravo wrote:you ugly mongols,

the proto-indoeuropeans were from the region anatolia and mesopotamia! kurds are medes.


why insult ?
are you live in qandil mountains ?

''medes were kurds'' .That s a teori only , you say that.
Some antropolgists say that sumerians were Proto-Turks
http://users.cwnet.com/millenia/Sumer-origins.htm
http://www.bu.edu/econ/faculty/kyn/econ ... gyars2.htm
But that is a teori only.

The Medes were an ancient iranian people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes
if kurds are persian ,you are righ ,kurds are medes. if kurds are perisan ,kurds are not a nation.
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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:23 pm

@zportoshki

medes were not persians! medes were like kurds northwest-aryan people, persian are southwest-aryan people.

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: zportoshki » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:23 pm

Johny Bravo wrote:@zportoshki

medes were not persians! medes were like kurds northwest-aryan people, persian are southwest-aryan people.


you say that.
But historcians don't say .
I think kurds need that medes myth
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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:34 am

zportoshki wrote:
Johny Bravo wrote:@zportoshki

medes were not persians! medes were like kurds northwest-aryan people, persian are southwest-aryan people.


you say that.
But historcians don't say .
I think kurds need that medes myth


Dear zportoshki for ur information I must say "Medes" were a confedration of Indo-Iranian tribes who migrated to the current regions of Southern Azerbaijan, Iranian Kurdistan, Iraqi Kurdistan, Turkish Kurdistan, Anatolia, and Syrian Kurdistan. They gradually mixed up with the FORMER "Indo-European" and other Native people of the Anatolian such as Hittites, Karduks, etc. After all "Diaoko" united Kurdish (Mede) tribes and defeated their old enemy "Assyrians" (whom were living originally in the areas of south of Southern Kurdistan, current Diyala, and Nineva). After that big battle Assyrians mixed up into Kurds and if u see a fair number of Kurds are dark faced its just because of Mesopotamian genetics.

But what are our evidences? How we can surely say "Medes" or before them "Indo-Europeans of Anatolia" are ancestors of Kurdish people? Ok, the answer is in history and linguistic facts:

1: The name "Mede" is a Greek name and "Mede" people never used it to call theirselves. "Mede" means "Middle" and refers to the fact "Mede" people living in the centre of teh Middle East. Greek historians all together say "Mede" people call themselves "Arya" meaning "Noble". "Arya"s or "Medes" used to call the people living along with their lands as "Peresuwe" meaning "along, across" and the people of far lands as "Parthewe" meaning "far, farway". These words today are resectively recorded as "Pars"/"Perse"/"Persian", etc. and "Parth"/"Parthian". Minporsky (a well-known Iranolog) says: indeed these names are found only amoung Kurds: "perasu" ~ "along, near" and "perte" ~ "far". In Persian people say "pehlu" ~ "along, near", pert" ~ "far". Also since the first Iranian (Aryan) dynasty was a Kurdish (Mede) dinasty therefore they became the centre for the Greek nation and "Persians" as "Alongs" and "Parthians" as "Faraways"!
We dont have a fair number of evidences about "Mede" langauges except some 10 words and some linguistic rules: we are sure that in Mede language old Iranian "hu-" changed into "f-". Ok so lets take a brief look into Modern Iranian languages: Old Iranian "hushke-" ~ "dry" > Avestan "ushke-", Old Persian "ushke-", Median "fishke-" > Talyshi "xishk", Persian "xoshk", MAzenderani "xeshk", Gilaki "xushk", Southern Kurdish "wishk". Persian "xonek", Mazn. "xenek", Gil. "xunek", Talyshi "xunek", but Southern Kurdish"fenek". etc. As u see Persian, Mazn, Gil, Talyshi has been developed the same of Old Persian but Kurdish entries are same as the Median ones. Also some of Median words which are recorded by Greek Historians: "sipeke" ~ "dog" also in Modern Kurdish "sipe" but Persian "seg". "Rojiye" ~ "sun" also Kurdish "roj"/"rojyar" but Persian "xorshid", Median "dehuye" ~ "land" also Modern Kurdish "dewal" but Persian "keshver".
Besides these thick linguistc evidences also a religious texts in Armenian is found which belongs to around 500 years ago. Armenians called "Mede" as ""Maday". In this text which is composed in around 5 or 6 langauges, one of the parts is referred to be in "Median Language" or "Maday". But it's very interesting that the text which is named "Maday" is exactly written in Northern Kurdish!

Although Medes had a thick influence of Original Indo-European or other Natives of current Kurdistan but the traces of "Originally Being Pre-Iranian" is found in many features of Kurdish speech forms: All Kurdish speech forms possess the sate of being "ergative" which matches with no one of their Iranian neighbours and belongs to the Pre-Iranian langauges.
Many words of Indo-European language are found in Kurdish which are not of Iranian root: Kurdish "nig" ~ Slavic langauges "noga", niga", neg" ~ "foot", Kurdish "naq" ~ English "neck", Kurdish "laq" ~ English "leg", Kurdish "pising" ~ English "pussy".

These all are fairly enough to say if Medes are sup[posed to have any descendents so they will be "Kurdish people" and it's proved that Kurdish people own Pre-iranian roots and their language Originally is an Indo-Euorpean but Pre-Iranian langauge which is thickly influenced by Iranian langauges such as Mede, Parthian and Pahlavi.
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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Mamma Mia » Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:05 am

Medes were not Kurds. They were old Persian civilizations. You cannot find yourself a decent old civilization then steal from Persian?

Read and learn:


The Medes were an ancient Iranian people[2][3][4][5][6][7] who lived in the northwestern portions of present-day Iran. This area was known in Greek as Media or Medea (Μηδία, Old Persian Māda;[8][9] adjective Median, antiquated also Medean). Under Assyrian rule, the Medes were known as Mādāyu.[10] They entered this region with the first wave of Iranian tribes, in the late second millennium BC (the Bronze Age collapse).[11]

By the 6th century BC, after having together with the Chaldeans defeated the Neo-Assyrian Empire, the Medes were able to establish their own empire,[8] which stretched from the southern shore of the Black Sea and Aran province (the modern-day Republic of Azerbaijan) to north and Central Asia, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, and which included many tributary states, including the Persians, who eventually supplanted and absorbed the Median empire in the Achaemenid Persian Empire.[8]

The Medes are credited with the foundation of the first Iranian empire, the largest of its day until Cyrus the Great established a unified Iranian empire of the Medes and Persians, often referred to as the Achaemenid Persian Empire, by defeating his grandfather and overlord, Astyages, king of Media.


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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:03 pm

Brainless ape, where stands that medes were persians? Medes were a northwestiranian tribe like kurds.

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Mamma Mia » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:25 am

Johny Bravo wrote:Brainless ape, where stands that medes were persians? Medes were a northwestiranian tribe like kurds.



Just type Medes in yahoo. Can you do it? Then read what comes into your screen. You need to use your PC to get more information, not just to watch animal sex. Next time, try to steal some other's nations old civilization. Medes are an old Iranian Empire. Oh, maybe if you claim Romans were Kurds too, then it might me more believable. Hahahahhah If you dont have it then you dont have it. Live with it, in your caves and donkeys.

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Johny Bravo » Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:50 pm

Kurds are also iranic like Persians and Pashtons, you can read it everywhere. Its like Turks and Khazaks.

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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Kurdi-Bakur » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:09 pm

kicked this idiot mongol broken. 3000 turkish world.. jajaajjajaj
the turkish language dont have 1000 words..... kurdish languge is veryyyyyyyyyyyyy rich...
u are say turkish language To add of the bore language. hahhah
ur steal words in other language and ur add a one addword = turkish word......
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Re: Loanwords in kurdish

PostAuthor: Emanoelkurdistani » Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:40 pm

@ Mamma Mia

“Medes were not Kurds. They were old Persian civilizations. You cannot find
yourself a decent old civilization then steal from Persian?”

You are even less than the most retarded Gray-Worm Fascists. I’m sure that you hardly suffer from visual illusion. Since first you claim Medes to be Old Persian then post a text as your evidence which absolutely confirms two independent ids for Medes and Old Persians both!!!!

“Read and learn:

…..

the Medes were able to establish their own empire …. including the Persians, who
eventually supplanted and absorbed the Median empire in the Achaemenid Persian
Empire.”

You are completely a pathetic!!

“Just type Medes in yahoo. Can you do it? Then read what comes into your screen.
You need to use your PC to get more information, not just to watch animal sex.
Next time, try to steal some other's nations old civilization. Medes are an old
Iranian Empire. Oh, maybe if you claim Romans were Kurds too, then it might me
more believable. Hahahahhah If you dont have it then you dont have it. Live with
it, in your caves and donkeys.”

Just look at your posted texts which confirm the difference between Medes and Persians then take a brief look at your typed sentences abt Medes being Persian, afterwards laugh at yourself and ask “God, how pathetic I am!”. Maybe you are better to weep tears instead of laugh!!
In your previous post Medes were Old Persian, and now you vomited the shit and say they’re Old Iranian. Anyway you the brainless pathetic think being Old Iranian means they cannot be ancestors of Kurds??!!! It’s you who should keep the illusionary ideas of Medes being Old Persian, to be Old Iranian being against Kurdish, Kurdish languages being Persian ... and live with them in his/her darkling land of hallucinations.
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