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cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:18 am
Author: allina
Hello,everyone! :D Is it right or rong?
If speaking of days, month, years or anything that mean time or instance, it must be like this:
penj rozh - 5 days
no mâng - 9 months..............

But with other words cardinal number always should be with classifier that is followed before the singular noun in the absolute state.For different groups of words it must be special classifier:
dâna- for thing
nafar - for people
sar - for someone alive, but not people
So it must be
da dâna ktâw - 4 books
penj nafar - 5 people
da sar piling - 10 tigers..........

If i say "da ktâwân" it is rong?

Re: cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:51 pm
Author: Lost
hello allina .. how you doing? .. looks like you going be better and better .. that is so good .. well done ..
well yeah it is
:
allina wrote:penj rozh - 5 days
no mâng - 9 months


and yeah it is right to:
allina wrote:âna- for thing

nafar - for people
sar - for someone alive, but not people
So it must be
da dâna ktâw - 4 books
penj nafar - 5 people
da sar piling - 10 tigers..........


and in sorani we're using : Kteb or Ktab ..for ..(book) ... not Ktaw..


and there is an what i should name it . tool or i don't know what is its name in ENGLISH ..
but i'm trying to say that you can use ( ekan ) to making things plural like ..


Kteb ( for book) = Ktebekan (for books)
Nefer (for people) = Neferekan(for peoples)


but when you said:

da dana ktab .. you don't have to say:
allina wrote:"da ktâwân"
.. because it is wrong .. yeah wrong ..
when you said 10 dana .. this ten would make those who you talking with understand that you bought 10 books ..

hope it helps .. and sorry for the bad english .. :(

Re: cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:58 pm
Author: Lost
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Re: cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:58 pm
Author: allina
Zor zor zor spas, Siver!
You dont have to sorry about your English, as my English also not perfect.Sometimes i understand people, which speak English with mistakes, better, than when i hear perfect English.
But ofcourse i always try to emprove it and i hope i sudy more Sorani.
Dwayee etbinmewe :D

Re: cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:01 pm
Author: Diri
Allina


You don't need to put "dane", "nefer" etc... Those are needless... They're just used in confirmative or declaretive sentences...


Just say:

Deh kitêb/pirtûk = Ten books
Pênc piling = Five cheetahs (yeah - "piling" doesn't mean "tiger" - it means "Cheetah")
Sê sêw = Three apples...

ETC.

Saying

"Deh dane kitêb/pirtûk" is like saying "Ten units/pieces of books"...

Re: cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:53 am
Author: allina
Zor spas, Diri.
Just i also use the same surce for lerning about what Kulka said.I think the fas.harward it is the only site about sorani.I know there are mistakes or to much words from Farsi.Thats why i ask for help on Rojbash.
About piling i saw in this refrence.
But strange, becouse my husbond also said that piling it mens tiger. :-s

Re: cardinal numbers

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:40 pm
Author: Diri
allina wrote:Zor spas, Diri.
Just i also use the same surce for lerning about what Kulka said.I think the fas.harward it is the only site about sorani.I know there are mistakes or to much words from Farsi.Thats why i ask for help on Rojbash.
About piling i saw in this refrence.
But strange, becouse my husbond also said that piling it mens tiger. :-s



He probably doesn't have the world's best English vocabulary... Show him a picture of a "Tiger" ("Bebir") and a "Cheetah" ("Piling")...

Of course in some cases, Soranî has lost some vocabulary too - when it mixed with Goranî...


Anyway - you're welcome... Please just ask if there is anything else, dear! :)