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PostAuthor: sorgul » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:46 am

what is the kurdish word for problem.....
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:22 am

pirs, pirsî.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:25 am

gîr , girêft .
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then YOU WIN !
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PostAuthor: sorgul » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:54 pm

what dialect is that?.......
the reason im asking is bc whenever im wacthing ktv they always sat "probleme"
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:05 pm

Pirs/Pirsi means question...

Its 'ne rihetî' 'un comfort'...
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PostAuthor: Piling » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:31 pm

it depends what you want to mean with problem. When I want to say "trouble" I say mis,kile, but it is in Arab.
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PostAuthor: heval » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:50 pm

The word for problem is "girêft".
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PostAuthor: sorgul » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:11 pm

Piling wrote:it depends what you want to mean with problem. When I want to say "trouble" I say mis,kile, but it is in Arab.


yes i mean like that...we always use miskile but i know its arabic...so girêft is the kurdish word for it...
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PostAuthor: Mosul » Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:50 pm

Mishkelah is what we say for Problem.

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PostAuthor: sorgul » Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:25 pm

i know that is arabic...that is what i say too...i wanted the KURDISH word for problem

side note.......i have this kurdish dictionary and it says problem is mesele......!! :?
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PostAuthor: heval » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:04 am

sorgul wrote:i know that is arabic...that is what i say too...i wanted the KURDISH word for problem

side note.......i have this kurdish dictionary and it says problem is mesele......!! :?


Which dictionary do you have? It's not the one by Aziz, is it?
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Re: Problem

PostAuthor: kardox » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:36 pm

The word for problem in kurdish(kurmanji) is "Ariysha"
Wow, diri u didnt got it right this time :shock:


sorgul wrote:what is the kurdish word for problem.....
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PostAuthor: Heja » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:13 am

Girift is a persian-based word. From Gereftan (To take)/Gereftari (Problem). But it is widely used in the sorani, like in "Gîr û Girift". Its word-by-word translation into sorani would be "Bigre-û-Girtî" ( which doesnot make any sense !!!)

A better word in Kurdish would be "Kêşe". It is used in both Sorani and Kurmanci, For instance

http://www.avestakurd.net/Avesta%2073/kemal%20sido.htm

I have seen "pirsgirêk" in the Kurmancî literature.
According to "Erdal Ronahî"'s on-line dictionary, "problem" translates to "pirsgirêk". He also has "arîse" too, which seems to be from Arabic " 'Ariza".
http://www.dicts.info/di1.php?k1=1&k2=214
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:42 am

sipas kak heja, and I guess "Kosp" can also be a word for Problem.

as they say "Kêşew kosip"
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PostAuthor: Heja » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:01 pm

dyaoko wrote:sipas kak heja, and I guess "Kosp" can also be a word for Problem. as they say "Kêşew kosip"


You're welcome. Yeah, "Kosp" is used as well, but I think that "Kosp" is the equivalent of "Obstacle/barrier" in English or "Mane' " in Arabic/Persian (Kend u Kosp). According to http://www.ferheng.org/sorani.html
Kosp translates to "Engel" in Turkish, which in turn translates to "barrier" in English.
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