Miss Kurdistan 2012

[Kurdistano]

is joking banned? I geniunly don't recall talking about Aryans as frequently as you state. If you feel insulted however, then I sincercly apologize.

No but you Guys still get exited about this like when I was 6-7 Years ago. And thesunchild is "insulting" our Kurdish brothers in the south just because of 1-2% more Southwest Asian /Red Sea influence, seriously? You see where all this Aryan thing brings us you get extreme fanatic. I also agree that we should not heavily mix with any of our neighbors because this is contra productive in the current time.

[Kurdistano]

How are eastern kurds more aryan??
i have a small part of my family that are eastern and they are bronze.
and as a southern kurd myself am whiter than them.

i prefer southern girls anyway.
i see pretty girls in slemani all the time.

I don't really care but perhaps because E.K's are more mixed with persians and other aryans while in S.K's they are more mixed with arabs who are semites which makes E:K's more aryan.
However when I was in Slemani I found that the majority of girls there really used kilos after kilos of makeup which was very ugly and many of these were quite fat xD No disrespect perhaps I went to the wrong places. But I did also see some good looking. But I myself prefer E.K's, I advice you Kak burhan to go to Sna there you'll find many hotties. Because you can't judge the way E.K's look from your experience with a small part of your family that comes from E.K.
So , you like S.K's more because you come from S.K and I like E.K's more because I come from E.K. However I don't have any good experience but I think N.K's are the most beautiful. I have been to Wan once and there were many beauties there and they are much more natural.

I am sorry to disappoint you but you are making the same radical mistake most peope with not much knowledge do. Persians are less "Aryan" by genetic means than Kurds from North or South Kurdistan to begin with. This is genetically proven. if there is anything what mixing with Persian would make you, it is to become slightly ( just a few percentages) closer to South-Central Asia and Iraqi Arabs. Genetically Persians are an offshoot of us with slightly (just a few percentages like 4-5%) more Arab and South-Central Asian influence.

[jjmuneer]

is joking banned? I geniunly don't recall talking about Aryans as frequently as you state. If you feel insulted however, then I sincercly apologize.

No but you Guys still get exited about this like when I was 6-7 Years ago. And thesunchild is "insulting" our Kurdish brothers in the south just because of 1-2% more Southwest Asian /Red Sea influence, seriously? You see where all this Aryan thing brings us you get extreme fanatic. I also agree that we should not heavily mix with any of our neighbors because this is contra productive in the current time.

I agree we shouldn't mix non-stop. Look what "Aryan" bullshit? When I said "were more aryan", ovbiously I'm joking. Not that I'm assoicating the Iranic tribes with light hair and eyes, but you cannot deny that was a contribution to Kurds. Especially to East Pahli Kurds. We also cannot let nationalism blind us from the genetic reality and facts. Not to say I am like Sunschild who will look down on my fellow compatriots, regardless of if they are from South or North. However I am not saying we should judge on the basis of that, that is just what silly Assyrians like Elias does. Genetics does play a role in our identity, but I think it is more assoication, culture, language and heritage.

Oh and I'm sorry if I came out the wrong way.

[jjmuneer]

How are eastern kurds more aryan??
i have a small part of my family that are eastern and they are bronze.
and as a southern kurd myself am whiter than them.

i prefer southern girls anyway.
i see pretty girls in slemani all the time.

I don't really care but perhaps because E.K's are more mixed with persians and other aryans while in S.K's they are more mixed with arabs who are semites which makes E:K's more aryan.
However when I was in Slemani I found that the majority of girls there really used kilos after kilos of makeup which was very ugly and many of these were quite fat xD No disrespect perhaps I went to the wrong places. But I did also see some good looking. But I myself prefer E.K's, I advice you Kak burhan to go to Sna there you'll find many hotties. Because you can't judge the way E.K's look from your experience with a small part of your family that comes from E.K.
So , you like S.K's more because you come from S.K and I like E.K's more because I come from E.K. However I don't have any good experience but I think N.K's are the most beautiful. I have been to Wan once and there were many beauties there and they are much more natural.

I am sorry to disappoint you but you are making the same radical mistake most peope with not much knowledge do. Persians are less "Aryan" by genetic means than Kurds from North or South Kurdistan to begin with. This is genetically proven. if there is anything what mixing with Persian would make you, it is to become slightly ( just a few percentages) closer to South-Central Asia and Iraqi Arabs. Genetically Persians are an offshoot of us with slightly (just a few percentages like 4-5%) more Arab and South-Central Asian influence.

Agreed, that is mainly due to the fact Kurds as a whole were tribal towards outsiders, so in effect outsiders could not mingle with us and influence our genetics. It is also due to genetic isolation and I guess geographic region. Since Kurdistan is a mountainous region.Even in terms of phenotypes and looks, many Persians I have seen in central/South Iran have Arabid influences, something they try and deny as much.

[jjmuneer]

don't really care but perhaps because E.K's are more mixed with persians and other aryans while in S.K's they are more mixed with arabs who are semites which makes E:K's more aryan.
However when I was in Slemani I found that the majority of girls there really used kilos after kilos of makeup which was very ugly and many of these were quite fat xD No disrespect perhaps I went to the wrong places. But I did also see some good looking. But I myself prefer E.K's, I advice you Kak burhan to go to Sna there you'll find many hotties. Because you can't judge the way E.K's look from your experience with a small part of your family that comes from E.K.
So , you like S.K's more because you come from S.K and I like E.K's more because I come from E.K. However I don't have any good experience but I think N.K's are the most beautiful. I have been to Wan once and there were many beauties there and they are much more natural.

That is wrong.
The climate in south kurdistan is just hotter.
And if south kurds are fat.
Iraq would easily beat fatties.
everyone has fat people.
and i have not really seen many good looking east kurds.
but alot of south kurds.
not all kurds in south kurdistan looks like arabs.
i could then say the same thing to east west and north kurdistan.
because i remmember when there were no airports i had to go via istanbul to kirkuk.
so i have also seen the kurds in the east.
and i haven't seen a big difference between south kurds.
and persians can also look like arabs.
there are white kurds and bronze kurds in all parts east north west.
but a bronze kurd can also give birth to a white kurd.
they are all beutifull.
but i guess you are right since you are from east you like more east kurds and i am from south and like more south kurds.
i think they are beutifull from all parts.
but i would prefer a southern kurd myself

Kurds aren't white to begin with, light eyes or hair has nothing to to with "whiteness". Were a West Eurasian/West Asian people.
Most Southern Kurds don't look Arab, it is a very small minority that have been genetically and phenotypically influenced by Arab, you do not need to over-exagerate that.

[Kurdistano]

and persians can also look like arabs.

As i already mentioned. Persians have as much Arab genes as Southern kurds + additional (~3% ) South Asian and in South Iran like Fars even some percentages (1-2%) more Arab genes.

So the statement "Persians can also look like arabs" is out of sense. If there is any reason why some Arabs (Iraqi, Syrian or Lebanese) can look like Southern Kurds, its because Iraqi Arabs tend to look like Kurds because they are a mix of mostly native Mesopotamian-Iranic folks + additional Bedouin admixture. Syrians and Lebanese are even more extrem they are by huge majority Arabified natives (like Phoenicians, Mitannis/Hurrians etc.) with strong to medium Bedouin input.

There might be some Kurds in South who have mixed with Iraqi Arabs and also look like that but they are not 100% ethnic Kurds and should not be taken as representative. The same you would not call a Spaniard/German mixed person a real German.

[thesunchild]

Amongst some Southern Kurds, there is a unusually high amount of South asian component in them.

I believe that that Southwest Asian components makes you really f-ugly, but maybe also smarter...

dude are you a child. you and jjmuneer should grow up.Stop talking about this Aryan bullcrap, all I hear from you day and night is Aryan here Aryan there.

I'm 30 years old. How old are you? I like to talk big about my ancestors, so what?

[thesunchild]

And thesunchild is "insulting" our Kurdish brothers in the south just because of 1-2% more Southwest Asian /Red Sea influence, seriously?

I don't want to insult other Kurds, and I didn't insult my own race. But I do apologise if I offended somebody personally/individually.

[jjmuneer]

and persians can also look like arabs.

As i already mentioned. Persians have as much Arab genes as Southern kurds + additional (~3% ) South Asian and in South Iran like Fars even some percentages (1-2%) more Arab genes.

So the statement "Persians can also look like arabs" is out of sense. If there is any reason why some Arabs (Iraqi, Syrian or Lebanese) can look like Southern Kurds, its because Iraqi Arabs tend to look like Kurds because they are a mix of mostly native Mesopotamian-Iranic folks + additional Bedouin admixture. Syrians and Lebanese are even more extrem they are by huge majority Arabified natives (like Phoenicians, Mitannis/Hurrians etc.) with strong to medium Bedouin input.

There might be some Kurds in South who have mixed with Iraqi Arabs and also look like that but they are not 100% ethnic Kurds and should not be taken as representative. The same you would not call a Spaniard/German mixed person a real German.

Even on Kurdistanca they wrote an article about the Arab conquests and how a few city Kurds who are darkly complexed relate back to the Arab invaders, of course as you said its a minority, but if you are going to disregard them as ethnically Kurdish then that is your problem.

But relating to the "Arabs look like Kurds", well that really doesn't make sense. As the so called Kurds who look like Arabs are a minority, so by implying it is the other way around is ilogical. Anyways if you go to Baghdad you will see most are dark as Suadis, even darker.

[jjmuneer]

This is me, and lets face it most westerners think I look like an Arab. So I don't know what the heck the would think of Persians.

[thesunchild]

Even on Kurdistanca they wrote an article about the Arab conquests and how a few city Kurds who are darkly complexed relate back to the Arab invaders.

Darkly complexion in Kurds is native to Kurdistan. Some Hurrians were very dark. Some Kurds are not dark because of the Semites, but because they're native to Kurdistan.

[thesunchild]

This is me, and lets face it most westerners think I look like an Arab. So I don't know what the heck the would think of Persians.

You DON'T look like an Arab (Semite) at all. Intelligent folks will immediately tell that you're a Kurd or either Iranic.

[talsor]

Kak jjmuneer you picture made me laugh because I just shaved my head few days ago too . Anyway , you look 100% kurdish .

[unitedkurdistan]

I don't really care but perhaps because E.K's are more mixed with persians and other aryans while in S.K's they are more mixed with arabs who are semites which makes E:K's more aryan.
However when I was in Slemani I found that the majority of girls there really used kilos after kilos of makeup which was very ugly and many of these were quite fat xD No disrespect perhaps I went to the wrong places. But I did also see some good looking. But I myself prefer E.K's, I advice you Kak burhan to go to Sna there you'll find many hotties. Because you can't judge the way E.K's look from your experience with a small part of your family that comes from E.K.
So , you like S.K's more because you come from S.K and I like E.K's more because I come from E.K. However I don't have any good experience but I think N.K's are the most beautiful. I have been to Wan once and there were many beauties there and they are much more natural.

I am sorry to disappoint you but you are making the same radical mistake most peope with not much knowledge do. Persians are less "Aryan" by genetic means than Kurds from North or South Kurdistan to begin with. This is genetically proven. if there is anything what mixing with Persian would make you, it is to become slightly ( just a few percentages) closer to South-Central Asia and Iraqi Arabs. Genetically Persians are an offshoot of us with slightly (just a few percentages like 4-5%) more Arab and South-Central Asian influence.

Belive me I'm not dissapointed, I hate everything about persian than anyone else in here even if I do have family members that are married to persians. So what are you trying to say? That arabs have more so called aryan genes than persians or if a Kurd married a persian their child's DNA will have some more south-central asiaian and iraqi arabic genes? I'm not really into genetics which you can see. Do you have some info you can share about the persian DNA coz i'm not sure I agree.

[ideas]

I look like an African.