Ossetians being related to us

[Kurdistano]

I agree, but I'm a bit skeptical whether we will ever see this chance. Turks have tactically populated this area since the pre-1940 massacres by Turks and Armenians, and in the political/economic dimension, the Georgians will choose Turks and Azeris over us any day. In my opinion, our main priority concerning the territorial issue should be to have a connection to the Mediterranean sea. This will make the grim prospect of depending on our neighbours' mercy a whole lot less realistic.

Your right but you should also know that at least since 50 years the Regions like Ardahan and Kars are resettled by Kurds. And those living in Erzurum, Ardahan are very patriotic too. I still see a chance to have a border with Georgia.

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[jjmuneer]

True and plus lets say hypethatically speaking Kurds wanted independence in Georgia and lets say we had a strong claim, they'd immediatly supress us. Ossetians are being oppressed by Georgians, their friendly till you get in their way. Plus Georgia is a NATO puppet. What do you think of Greeks?
Heres a greek kurdish brotherhood video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF9rH6z1uKk

[Azamat]

True and plus lets say hypethatically speaking Kurds wanted independence in Georgia and lets say we had a strong claim, they'd immediatly supress us. Ossetians are being oppressed by Georgians, their friendly till you get in their way. Plus Georgia is a NATO puppet. What do you think of Greeks?
Heres a greek kurdish brotherhood video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF9rH6z1uKk

The Greeks handed Serok Apo over to the Turks for a f*cking bounty(which to this day hasn't been formally apologized for) and continuously support the fascist Armenian lobby. I'd choose Georgians over Greeks any day. It's true that Georgia is a NATO puppet, which I detest, but most of the Georgian people have overcome this obsession with the West when they were abandoned and betrayed by NATO in 2008. Most Georgians want to get rid of their govt. and Saakashvili.

BTW, the Greek/Armenian-Kurdish brotherhood videos you see on youtube are always made by Kurds. This phenomenon should cease because there's nothing for us to achieve by it, and it will never produce the desired effect. I'd say it's rather humiliating; to the rest of the world, it makes us Kurds look like bowing in presence of 'greatness'(Christian Europeans).

[jjmuneer]

True and plus lets say hypethatically speaking Kurds wanted independence in Georgia and lets say we had a strong claim, they'd immediatly supress us. Ossetians are being oppressed by Georgians, their friendly till you get in their way. Plus Georgia is a NATO puppet. What do you think of Greeks?
Heres a greek kurdish brotherhood video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF9rH6z1uKk

The Greeks handed Serok Apo over to the Turks for a f*cking bounty and continuously support the fascist Armenian lobby. I'd choose Georgians over Greeks any day. It's true that Georgia is a NATO puppet, which I detest, but most of the Georgian people have overcome this obsession with the West when they were abandoned and betrayed by NATO in 2008. Most Georgians want to get rid of their govt. and Saakashvili.

BTW, the Greek/Armenian-Kurdish brotherhood videos you see on youtube are always made by Kurds. This phenomenon should cease because there's nothing for us to achieve by it, and it will never produce the desired effect. I'd say it's rather humiliating; to the rest of the world, it makes us Kurds look like bowing in presence of 'greatness'(Christian Europeans).

Making friends doesn't mean your sleeping with them in bed, but I understand your point.

[Azamat]

Making friends doesn't mean your sleeping with them in bed

If that's how you put this issue into perspective, I'd say sadomasochism is more of what these videos embody.

[Kurdistano]

True and plus lets say hypethatically speaking Kurds wanted independence in Georgia and lets say we had a strong claim, they'd immediatly supress us. Ossetians are being oppressed by Georgians, their friendly till you get in their way. Plus Georgia is a NATO puppet. What do you think of Greeks?
Heres a greek kurdish brotherhood video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF9rH6z1uKk

Man not the Georgians oppress the Ossetians but the Regime. Its all about Power. Western World wants to control land close to Russia. Russia wants to "liberate" this area to weaken the western influence. Thats all. Just because the Georgians regime oppresses the Ossetians this doesent say anything for us. You seriously need to stop thinking in a pan iranistic view. Our "Iranian neighbors dont care about us. Only Tajiks, some Afghans and Ossetians are friendly. Of course I would have nothing against the Idea of an free Ossetia. But the Ossetians themselves doesent want to be free! They want to join Russia. This has nothing to do with being free.

[Azamat]

Our "Iranian neighbors dont care about us. Only Tajiks, some Afghans and Ossetians are friendly.

Balochis and Lurs are friendly with us too, and we should definitely establish relations with them, when we are able to. The 'formal' pan-Iranic movement however, is a pan-Persian movement aimed at restoring Persia's former empire, which is of course totally unacceptable.

[jjmuneer]

Our "Iranian neighbors dont care about us. Only Tajiks, some Afghans and Ossetians are friendly.

Balochis and Lurs are friendly with us too, and we should definitely establish relations with them, when we are able to. The 'formal' pan-Iranic movement however, is a pan-Persian movement aimed at restoring Persia's former empire, which is of course totally unacceptable.

I'm not talking about pan-persians. Ossetians do want to be friend, they don't want to join with Russia. South Ossetia wants to break off Georgia and already have their own flag, language, culture, army and government. Imagine if that was a Turk saying oh Kurds don't want to be free, they want to be apart of the ottoman empire.

Not all afghans are iranic speaking people, only Pashtuns, Yagnobi and Nurstanis. Alot of Turkic peoples in in Afghans, like 40 to 50%. As I said before I have Persian family, so I feel connected to Persians, Ossets, basically all the eastern Iranic speaking people. Balochis are a mixture of dravidian and Kurdish tribes. Lurs belong to the southern dailects of the Kurds, I think they have faylee origins, because when I went to Kermanshah I couldn't tell difference bewteen lurs and faylee kurds. We speak very very similar languages.

[Kurdistano]

Our "Iranian neighbors dont care about us. Only Tajiks, some Afghans and Ossetians are friendly.

Balochis and Lurs are friendly with us too, and we should definitely establish relations with them, when we are able to. The 'formal' pan-Iranic movement however, is a pan-Persian movement aimed at restoring Persia's former empire, which is of course totally unacceptable.

Just that Lurs were Kurds for the last 100 Years and now are considered as non because their language was influenced by Persian. This shows sadly how a group can loose its origin.