Similarities between Hinduism and Ezidi

[sicpit]

I was requested to post a topic about the relationship on the contact between the Hindus and the Kurds. Well this I really can't do, for the fact that in order for me to do that I would have had to study deeper into Zoroastrianism. I will address some striking similarities between Hindus and Ezidi, from their you can make up your own conclusion.

I will start off with some very basic facts, probably don't relate to the story, but they can be useful. Hinduism is actually a false term, coined by the settlers. Hinduism shouldn't have been a religion, as that was just a name to describe a group of people. THe actual term is called Sanatana(Eternal) Dharma(Being) In a sense a Muslim from India can still be called a Hindu, and or Hindi. Such as Hindi Muslim.


Hinduism is believed by Historians and theologians to be the oldest known religion that is still in existence. Now people especially Kurds will claim that Ezidi is, there is not proof of this, as we don't know what Ezidi was like prior to Sheik Adi(pbuh)

Now we come to the similarities, these don't necessarily mean anything because they are just similarities. Keep in mind almost every culture from the Chinese to the Europeans, to even the Native American Had some story of Dragon. Despite Time, geography, and language they all had dragon myths. So similarities don't always mean contact, as I don't the Chinese had direct contact with the Native In America thousands of years latter. So here are the similarities between the two

*Both believe in Reincarnation
*Both believe in Avatars
*Both have strong importance with the Peacock(I'll get to this one latter)
*Both have a caste system(one that I am unhappy with)
*Both have some influence of Aryans
*Both once have strong funds for fire
*Both don't believe in Hell


Now about the peacock, the peacock is flat out not native in Kurdistan, it is however very native in India. So this means it could be very likely that the Hindu's had direct contact with the Kurds like it did with the Persians. In my humble opinion since at the time Persians and Hindi were at war with each other, this is evident in the name for their Gods and demons. Asura is basically Demon in Hindu mythology, well by luck The god of the ancient Persians was <u>Ahura</u> Mazda. Meanwhile the title that the Hindu's give their Gods and Goddess(that make one God, Brahma) are Devi or Deva, <u>dev</U>=Divine anyways the Zoroastrians call their Demons Daevas. It seems likely that all the Kurds were influenced by both religions, that I believe the Kurds more so with the Hindus than with the Persian. This is just my opinion.


There are probably errors, and if there are please correct them. and don't believe what I say because I wrote or said this. Take advice from the wise Buddha which is "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. "

[Diri]

Thank you so much Sicpit

I am realy honoured that you have made this thread... I have since the time I came to learn about the Êzidî known of the similarities between the Êzdî and the Hindu faith's, but as it is now, nowhere on the internet, can you find a direct comparison of the two, like you have put here in your post...

So now I see some more lines and connections that previously have been blurry because first of all, I didn't find a historical context it all into... Like the war between the Meds/Persians and the Indians...

That made it all much more clear...

In Kurdish / Persian / Iranic languages , "Dêv" = "Giant"

And for the record, I actually think (although I have no source to back me up yet - as I have never doubted it, so therefore not had the need for confirmation) - I actually think that the peacock WAS native to Kurdistan back in older times... AS was the lion and buffalo... But with time, hunters have made extinct such species in the Middle East... Yet still the peacock can still be found in certain areas in Kurdistan - in the wilde...

I will research that...

[sicpit]

Thank you so much Sicpit

I am realy honoured that you have made this thread... I have since the time I came to learn about the Êzidî known of the similarities between the Êzdî and the Hindu faith's, but as it is now, nowhere on the Internet, can you find a direct comparison of the two, like you have put here in your post...

So now I see some more lines and connections that previously have been blurry because first of all, I didn't find a historical context it all into... Like the war between the Meds/Persians and the Indians...

That made it all much more clear...

In Kurdish / Persian / Iranic languages , "Dêv" = "Giant"

And for the record, I actually think (although I have no source to back me up yet - as I have never doubted it, so therefore not had the need for confirmation) - I actually think that the peacock WAS native to Kurdistan back in older times... AS was the lion and buffalo... But with time, hunters have made extinct such species in the Middle East... Yet still the peacock can still be found in certain areas in Kurdistan - in the wilde...

I will research that...

Thank you, There is speculation that the Peacock could have at one time been native, I think I worded it wrong earlier. Actually in Hindu mythology and their gods, you can see the peacock everywhere. I will post some pics at the end of this, as well as a prayer of Lord Murugan who rode on the Peacock. I didn't know that the Peacock is in certain parts of Kurdistan, which part? Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, etc? I want so badly to go to Kurdistan, it's a life to goal for me. I also think it's ironic how the root word <u>dev</u> (divine) is also the root word in Devil. anyway here are some pics for you


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Lord Krishna(Kristos) best assosiated with Jesus Christ(Kristos)

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KOWMARI
Kowmari represents Lord Muruga's energy. She is kumkum (red powder) in color with four arms and she wears a diamond studded crown. Her flag which has a peacock on it. She is seated on Her vehicle which is a peacock.



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Notice the Peacock feather in Krishnas forhead?


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<a>Prayer of Lord Murigan</A>

It's also interesting to not that most Hindu Deities are usually not male or female but characteristics of both. For instance the Male Gods usually look pretty feminine. The same could be said for the Peacock as well. The colors of the Peacock are far from masculine. I think the importance of this dual gender, is that all male have female energy as well as female has male. Just theories though.

[Diri]

To post images, you must use these codes:

[img]Put your link here - it must be a direct link to an address which contains an image only![/img]

Just replace my text between the two walls ( [img]...[/img] ) with a direct address to an image...

[sicpit]

These are all pics of Krishna(Kristos) He is most similar to Jesus Christ(Kristos)







Lord Muragan, I am not too sure of this deity, I think he is Son of Shiva. Once again I think he might play the same role as Krishna. I haven't looked too deep into him, as I need to better understand Sanatan Dharma first. There is more, but anyway I don't feel like looking for more

[Diri]

The last one, is the Êzdî peacock...



Thank you for the images... Very interesting...

About where the peacock is in Kurdistan - it can be found in Eastern Kurdistan, as I know of... Not sure about the other parts...

Eastern Kurdistan = Iranian Kurdistan

Do you know the role of the peacock in the Êzdî faith?

[sicpit]

The last one, is the Êzdî peacock...



Thank you for the images... Very interesting...

About where the peacock is in Kurdistan - it can be found in Eastern Kurdistan, as I know of... Not sure about the other parts...

Eastern Kurdistan = Iranian Kurdistan

Do you know the role of the peacock in the Êzdî faith?

I do, I know a lot about Ezidi faith. I love Tawsi Melek, I pray to him often!

[abdur]

Thanks for the topic, its very informative and sounds logical.

[sicpit]

Thanks for the topic, its very informative and sounds logical.

No Problem, so does anyone know or heard of Hindu Kurds?

[Balci]

I've never heard of Hindu Kurds at least. But lol, this is more than enough to rather call Ezidi a dharmatic religion, than a abrahamic.

[Darkseid]

I've never heard of Hindu Kurds at least. But lol, this is more than enough to rather call Ezidi a dharmatic religion, than a abrahamic.

You could say it is mixed like Sihkism.

[Balci]

Yeah, that would be the most correct way to explain it, however, Ezidi is decades much older.

[Darkseid]

Yeah, that would be the most correct way to explain it, however, Ezidi is decades much older.

Well Zoroasterism mix with Islam could be a better way of putting it.

[K4L_2007]

I've always thought that Angels came from the monotheistic religions, but im pretty sure ezidi was there before all the other religions? And the believe in Melek Taus.

So were Angels known for the first time from Abrahams religions, or were they already known??

[Darkseid]

I've always thought that Angels came from the monotheistic religions, but im pretty sure ezidi was there before all the other religions? And the believe in Melek Taus.

So were Angels known for the first time from Abrahams religions, or were they already known??

Maybe it is Babylonian faith that has evolved?