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Yezidism: historical roots

PostAuthor: Tirigan » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:50 pm

From International Journal of Kurdish Studies, Jan 2005 by Tosine Reshid

"The name of the Median Empire has not remained in history. Moreover, it has been forgotten by its own people. The religion of the Medes was supplanted by three religions emanating from it, which remain to this day: Yezidism, Yarsanism and Alewism"

"The similarities between Yezidism and Zoroastrianism are numerous. Moreover, contrary to the writings of some scholars, Yezidism did not emanate from Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrianism originated from Yezidism. Before Zoroaster became the prophet of a new religion, he was either a Yezidi or belonged to Yezidism."


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... 54362/pg_2

"Before Zoroaster became the prophet of a new religion, he was either a Yezidi or belonged to Yezidism." :wink:
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:57 pm

Btw. I’m Yezidi Kurd and I don’t know what to think. Some Yezidi priests (Sheikhs) are saying that Yezidism comes from Zoroastrianism and other are saying that it’s much older. But I know 1 thing for sure. We, Kurds, must cherries/protect our ancient religion. Our ancient religion makes Kurds unique people!
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:01 pm

very intresting article, thanks for posting it.
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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:09 pm

Thursday we had very important Yezidi religious ceremony. That religious ritual (we call it klotsj, I don’t know hot to write it) is every year needed to bless and inaugurate our (Kurdish) new-year, NEWROZ.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:37 pm

can you tell us more about that celebration ? how it is held and when ...

we in rojhelat also celebrate the last thuesday of the year ...we call it chwar shama soory.
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PostAuthor: Diri » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:09 pm

dyaoko wrote:can you tell us more about that celebration ? how it is held and when ...

we in rojhelat also celebrate the last thuesday of the year ...we call it chwar shama soory.


No we celebrate the last Wednesday... Not the last Tuesday...

Listen to the name:

" Charshembî sorî "

We also call it " Kulek Charshembî "...

This is the day we light the fire... I don't know what others do - but that is the day we light the bonfire and jump over it... And the children hold mirrors for their elders - so that they can get some sweets or money...
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:20 pm

it is called Chwarsmaa Kulle or Chwarshama Soory , but it is not held in the Chwarshama Day (Wednsday) , it is held in chwarshama night

in Kurdish Shew Chwarshama (wednesday nigtt ) would be nigth of tuesday .
so the celebration is held on Tuesday Night (and I am pretty sure, because I attended in it just some days ago)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:55 am

Well... Where I come from - we do it on Wednesday... Not the evening on Tuesday...

But that is the actual lighting of the fire... But it is interesting that we have different days for it... :)
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PostAuthor: Egid » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:03 am

I thought Yezidisme is/was a subgroup of Cult of Angles, which has it's roots in Zerdiusme ( Zarahoestra).

Every tuesday night we gave food to poor people. It is also the night that dead family and friends walk around. If you don't give food to the poor they won't eat to.
So it was very important to give some food to the poors.

In the beginning i thought it was something ISlamitic but it isn't. Last year i realised that it has to do with Yezidisme/Zarahoestra.

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PostAuthor: Tirigan » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:31 pm

Also by the Yezidi Kurds in Georgia every family is celebrating “Klotsj” on different days in the last week of the year, because every family has got their own “Shaikh” (priest).

I don’t live in Georgia anymore, but when I was a child my grandmother baked a cake in the night before “Klotsj”. My grandmother did it always on Wednesday night/Thursday early morning.
In that cake with special recipe we are putting something in, like a coin or a bead!
Every last Thursday of the year we invited our “Shaikh” and he was giving his prayers/devotions.
We divide that cake by slicing it in parts. We begun (are beginning) to splitting our cake with our important Yezidi saints like “Shaikh Adi” and other important “Shaikhs”. After the saints it's a turn of all males, we starting with the head of the family and his sons and grandsons and then all females of a family. Every Thursday my grandfather cutted it in pieces with of course music and devotions, a very important moment! After that we can eat our cake and search a coin in it. It can last 2 days before we know in which part a coin is. Some years ago that coin was in mine part of a cake. That stand for that it was mine new-year! Al that of course with a lot of music and dancing. A real celebration, most important day of the year.

Since my family live in Holland, and since my grandparents are dead, my father is the head of our little family here and my mother is making “Klotsj”, our cake!

Also last days of the old-year we’re painting eggs, like Christians and Jews do and we also going to the funeral of our recently dead family members.

I don’t exactly know how Yezidi Kurds in Lalish are celebrating Newroz, but One thing I know for sure. Newroz is for Yezidi much more than dancing. It’s a very religious feast and has to do with our religion.

Some ASSyrians are claiming that Newroz is their new-year. But what are they doing on that day? Nothing! Maybe they dance (Kurdish dances) something and that’s all. And now some of them are claming that it’s their feast. Newroz for Yezidi is much more than dancing!
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PostAuthor: ChiChalok » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:28 am

*YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN* oh god
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:48 am

What's the problem :roll:
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: ChiChalok » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:08 pm

many problems .. are u a social worker?? psychologist?? :roll:
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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:36 pm

http://www.peyamner.com/article.php?id= ... ng=english
National _ Ezidis: surviving through history, demanding more recognition ... By Mohammed A. Salih,
The suppression of ethnic cultures and minority religious groups in attempting to forge a modern nation were not unique to Turkey but occurred in very similar ways in its European neighbours - Bruinessen.

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PostAuthor: Vladimir » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:52 am

Blog about Yezidi in Armenia:
http://oneworld.blogsome.com/category/yezidi/
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