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A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live

PostAuthor: Piling » Sun May 26, 2013 8:39 am

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Pope Francis’s pronouncement that God has “redeemed all of us … even the atheists” Wednesday surprised both believers and nonbelievers around the world, who are used to stricter edicts from the Catholic church. It also got us wondering where the world’s atheists live.
There’s surprisingly little data available on the subject. But a 2012 poll by WIN/Gallup International — an international polling firm that is not associated with the D.C.-based Gallup group — asked more than 50,000 people in 40 countries whether they considered themselves “religious,” “not religious” or “convinced atheist.” Overall, the poll concluded that roughly 13 percent of global respondents identified as atheists, more than double the percentage in the U.S.
The highest reported share of self-described atheists is in China: an astounding 47 percent. Faith has a complicated history in China. The state is deeply skeptical of organized religion, which it has long considered a threat to its authority.
In the Taiping rebellion of the 19th century, a religious cult started a Chinese civil war that killed millions of people and left the country exposed to European powers. The official ideology of the Communist government scorned both “new” Western religions and more traditionally Chinese faiths, destroying countless temples and relics during the Cultural Revolution of 1967 to 1977. While today’s Chinese leaders do not seem to share Mao Zedong’s fervent belief that China’s rich religious history was holding it back from modernity, nor do they seem prepared to bring that history back.

Japan, where 31 percent call themselves atheist, is a little more complicated. While superficial religious observation is common – many weddings take place in churches – formal religious practice has never really recovered from the imperial era that culminated with World War Two.
For much of the 1920 through 1940s, Japan’s imperial government combined an extreme form of race-based nationalism with emperor-worship and traditional Shinto practice. Some symbols of that era still remain, such as the Yasukuni shrine, though they are deeply controversial and often associated with the country’s wartime abuses.
Like nationalism in Germany, a bit of a post-war taboo has developed around religion in Japan. Separately, there is an alarming trend in Japan of forced religious de-conversion, in which families may “kidnap” a loved one who as adopted a faith seen as too extreme, such as Jehovah’s Witnesses, and pressure them to give it up.
One of the most surprising datapoints here might be Saudi Arabia, where 5 percent say they’re atheist. Not a high number, to be sure, but higher than in many other countries, despite the extremely sensitive taboo against atheism in Saudi Arabia, which is also considered a serious crime. (In both Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance, less than 1 percent of respondents called themselves atheists.) We looked earlier at the surprisingly robust community of underground Saudi atheists.
In addition to Iraq and Afghanistan, religious sentiment is strong in Ghana, Nigeria, Armenia and Fiji, where more than nine in 10 people say they’re religious. WIN/Gallup notes that religiosity is highest among the poor and, to a lesser extent, among the less educated, which certainly correlates among the most religious countries. (Ghana’s GDP per capita, for instance, ranks 173rd worldwide.)
As for Italy, a stone’s throw from the Vatican chapel where Pope Francis spoke on Wednesday, the Catholic Church has little to fear. Despite a gradual slide in Catholic baptisms in Italy over the past several decades, nearly three-fourths of Italians consider themselves religious. That number has actually grown one percent since 2005, according to WIN/Gallup, bucking the trend toward weaker religious feeling seen elsewhere in the world.

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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sun May 26, 2013 10:01 am

Most wars are caused by religion or greed.

For religion to be the cause of so much hatred and killing then surely these religious fanatics must be worshipping Satan and not God :ymdevil:
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Re: A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live

PostAuthor: Shirko » Sun May 26, 2013 12:56 pm

And whats so suprising about that?
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Re: A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live

PostAuthor: Piling » Mon May 27, 2013 3:45 am

For example there are more atheists in Saudia (5%) than in other Middle East countries.

One of the most surprising datapoints here might be Saudi Arabia, where 5 percent say they’re atheist. Not a high number, to be sure, but higher than in many other countries, despite the extremely sensitive taboo against atheism in Saudi Arabia, which is also considered a serious crime. (In both Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance, less than 1 percent of respondents called themselves atheists.) We looked earlier at the surprisingly robust community of underground Saudi atheists.


But they are also surprised by the huge amount in China and Japan (47% and 31%), though I am not : Buddhism, taoism are spiritualities which do not need what we call 'God' in our Western mind (I say Western because for a Japanese Islam is a Western civilization).

The poll is commented by Americans, a country of which the president swear on the Bible so a country like Czech can surprise them.
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Re: A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live

PostAuthor: Shirko » Mon May 27, 2013 12:56 pm

Yes I noticed that Suadia had that figure, but it is only 5%, and those might be foriegn workers, or even maybe actual citizens, I can see about 5% of them being closet atheists, who knows. And like you I was not suprised that China and Japan are soo high. It does not show Israel, but I bet it is pretty high.

Piling wrote:For example there are more atheists in Saudia (5%) than in other Middle East countries.

One of the most surprising datapoints here might be Saudi Arabia, where 5 percent say they’re atheist. Not a high number, to be sure, but higher than in many other countries, despite the extremely sensitive taboo against atheism in Saudi Arabia, which is also considered a serious crime. (In both Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance, less than 1 percent of respondents called themselves atheists.) We looked earlier at the surprisingly robust community of underground Saudi atheists.


But they are also surprised by the huge amount in China and Japan (47% and 31%), though I am not : Buddhism, taoism are spiritualities which do not need what we call 'God' in our Western mind (I say Western because for a Japanese Islam is a Western civilization).

The poll is commented by Americans, a country of which the president swear on the Bible so a country like Czech can surprise them.
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