How much does religion take a part in you life?

[azade_]

According to my sources work etc. is not a valid reason for not praying (look http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=38106&ln=eng, http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=21958&ln=eng and http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=9561&ln=eng), but if it is because you forget it, it's okay to pray as soon as you remember it, also if the time for the next prayer has begun.
The good news is that it's not required to make up for missed prayers in the past (unless you follow shafi'i or hanafi)

I'm having the same problem as you also, just learnt salah but having a hard time actually doing it.

[K4L_2007]

According to my sources work etc. is not a valid reason for not praying (look http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=38106&ln=eng, http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=21958&ln=eng and http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=9561&ln=eng), but if it is because you forget it, it's okay to pray as soon as you remember it, also if the time for the next prayer has begun.
The good news is that it's not required to make up for missed prayers in the past (unless you follow shafi'i or hanafi)

I'm having the same problem as you also, just learnt salah but having a hard time actually doing it.

Yeah, but before I wasnt sure if you had to make salah five times a day, or all in one time (all 5 times as one big prayer). But if you can do all in the same time, its not a big problem, I just have to learn it and get used to it. Good Luck praying and thanks for the links!

[Darkseid]

Theres one problem I have, and thats fulfilling one of the pillars of Islam, Salat (the praying). I dont know what to say when I pray, but thats not the problem, I can learn, but its almost impossible to pray 5 times a day in a country like Sweden when you have job/school.

I think of religion everyday, and sometimes Im taking the time to think of it, its my own way to pray to God. Though I would do it the real way if I could

Well I think you should pray as it is needed and necessary. Prayer became quite constant in Arabic society, because of the fact they live in a desert and have to pray quite often just to find water.

You don't have to worry about that so you don't need to follow that tradition. Just like Christians don't need to constantly recite the bible just to be intone with god. One just needs to be aware of one's own life and find a place for their own faith to be a part of it. Concentrate on that and you will find a way of having Islam be a full part of your life, even if you have to develope a whole seperate sect of Islam base off of modernization and individuality.

Understanding and having god in your life is important, but God would appreciate it if people would try to better themselves as well.

[azade_]

That's a nice thought but for muslims who are actually religious, salah is one of the most important things as it is one of the five pillars. Religion can't just be changed because people find it more convenient to do so. Especially for muslims it is important to do what the prophet (saw) did, it's not like mainstream christianity where you pick the things you like and forget about the rest.

[Darkseid]

That's a nice thought but for muslims who are actually religious, salah is one of the most important things as it is one of the five pillars.

Have you tried taken into the consideration of understanding what it is important? Why is prayer more important than meditation? When you meditate, your mind become clear, and you can succeed better in life in following the other laws of god. When you pray, what is the result? Do you give your obediance to god? Why does god want you to be obediant, when he just wants you to co-exist? Shouldn't co-existence be enough? Why isn't it enough? Why do we continue to pray, when it is not necessary? Certainly it is necessary for you and other that think it so necessary. But is it really so necessary to god? I've been in contact with god and so it is important that you take into account of what I'm about to say. Prayer is a sacred rite of protection and psychological well being in times of great concern. There is no need to do anything in a regular manner. But if you find it important to your own psychological/religious well being then certainly it does not offend god for you to pray five times a day in sacred salah, but certainly you do not need to pressure others to follow this same manner. Who is to say? Muhammad didn't write the Koran.

Religion can't just be changed because people find it more convenient to do so.

Religion changes all the time. Christianity today is different than it was. It is even spoken about that in your Koran.

And not all Muslims actually follow the Koran. Bin Laden doesn't follow the Koran like he should. People make their own interpretations and these interpretations leads to changes in the faith. You still read the book. But what you interpret from the book changes.

Especially for muslims it is important to do what the prophet (saw) did, it's not like mainstream christianity where you pick the things you like and forget about the rest.

It is quite funny. The more I hear about your prophet, the more I see myself. Strange.... Sometimes I wonder who I was a long time ago.

[azade_]

You have valid points, but as a religious muslim obeying Allah all of that doesn't matter. Muslims follow the Qur'an and the Hadith, which haven't been changed the same as eg. the Bible has and it is crucial not to go with the flow of time in religious matters. You are right that some muslims don't follow the Qur'an and otherwise do as they are supposed to, but they will get whatever it is they deserve in the end.

I'm not really sure what to say...if you said all of this to me 6 months ago I would have jumped up and down and clapped my hands because I felt the same way, but there's just no way for a not-religious person to follow the trail of islam and it's essence. Salah is one of the five pillars, which means it is mandatory and there's no way to compromise it. Not from a psychological pow, but from a strictly religious one. Salah is not something a person does for him/herself, it it to please Allah. If it was for reasons concerning the self, I'm sure it would be much better to meditate, as you suggest.

[Darkseid]

I did told you that I am in contact with Allah, now didn't I? Doesn't that matter or does what Allah say not matter to you?

As Allah as said, only in unoppressive manners must one follow the faith. Do not say anything else about it.

Practicing oppression is against Allah

Practicing prejudicism is against Allah

Praciticing fascism is completely against Allah. I mean God destroyed Atlantis because it practiced Fascism.

Unregulated Capitalism is against Allah

Unsecular governments is against Allah

Preaching about muslims without taking into consideration of the fact that the Koran was not written by Muhammad is against Allah.

How do you even know that the Koran was truly based off of Muhammad's faith? Like Jesus, he didn't write the book.

[sicpit]

Unsecular governments is against Allah

Theocracies have only done us harm. If a secular government is against any deity, I am against it

[K4L_2007]

You have valid points, but as a religious muslim obeying Allah all of that doesn't matter. Muslims follow the Qur'an and the Hadith, which haven't been changed the same as eg. the Bible has and it is crucial not to go with the flow of time in religious matters. You are right that some muslims don't follow the Qur'an and otherwise do as they are supposed to, but they will get whatever it is they deserve in the end.

I'm not really sure what to say...if you said all of this to me 6 months ago I would have jumped up and down and clapped my hands because I felt the same way, but there's just no way for a not-religious person to follow the trail of islam and it's essence. Salah is one of the five pillars, which means it is mandatory and there's no way to compromise it. Not from a psychological pow, but from a strictly religious one. Salah is not something a person does for him/herself, it it to please Allah. If it was for reasons concerning the self, I'm sure it would be much better to meditate, as you suggest.

Do not follow Sunna or hadith, it is all rules created by muslims and caliphs
Muhammad preached only the Quran and presented no other rules except for what is in the quran
Quran says: Quran is complete, perfect and well detailed and God is the lawsource
God does not forget, he didnt except nor wait for people to write the rules he didnt put in the Quran. God does not miss words.

Either Sunna or Hadith said that muslims arent allowed to listen to music, and thats false.

[Darkseid]

Unsecular governments is against Allah

Theocracies have only done us harm. If a secular government is against any deity, I am against it

Yeah that is why I said unsecular is against Allah.

You have valid points, but as a religious muslim obeying Allah all of that doesn't matter. Muslims follow the Qur'an and the Hadith, which haven't been changed the same as eg. the Bible has and it is crucial not to go with the flow of time in religious matters. You are right that some muslims don't follow the Qur'an and otherwise do as they are supposed to, but they will get whatever it is they deserve in the end.

I'm not really sure what to say...if you said all of this to me 6 months ago I would have jumped up and down and clapped my hands because I felt the same way, but there's just no way for a not-religious person to follow the trail of islam and it's essence. Salah is one of the five pillars, which means it is mandatory and there's no way to compromise it. Not from a psychological pow, but from a strictly religious one. Salah is not something a person does for him/herself, it it to please Allah. If it was for reasons concerning the self, I'm sure it would be much better to meditate, as you suggest.

Do not follow Sunna or hadith, it is all rules created by muslims and caliphs
Muhammad preached only the Quran and presented no other rules except for what is in the quran
Quran says: Quran is complete, perfect and well detailed and God is the lawsource
God does not forget, he didnt except nor wait for people to write the rules he didnt put in the Quran. God does not miss words.

Either Sunna or Hadith said that muslims arent allowed to listen to music, and thats false.

Rock and Roll is your friend.

Also, Muhammad didn't write the Koran. It was written after his death by his followers. And since it was written by man, it has the possibility of being incorrect. However, if there was a Zhor (Angel of God) amongst them then it is likely be flawless.

[Marie K.]

arabs need islam cause before it they weren't civilized civilisation but kurdish people don't need it cause they are and have already been civlized!!Median were great !!!and also arabs has persecuted kurdish people as yezedis and others cause of islam!
for example see Iran before and after islam, during persian empire through zoroastrism every people (minority people for example) was free but now this state is quite similar as a terrorist state!!

[Diri]

arabs need islam cause before it they weren't civilized civilisation but kurdish people don't need it cause they are and have already been civlized!!Median were great !!!and also arabs has persecuted kurdish people as yezedis and others cause of islam!
for example see Iran before and after islam, during persian empire through zoroastrism every people (minority people for example) was free but now this state is quite similar as a terrorist state!!

I agree

But religion is a private matter in my eyes... So everybody should choose their own religion... Personally I am Muslim and happy with that... But I don't want religion to be mixed into policies and state affairs...

Most Kurds are Muslim - only about 500 000 are estimated to be Yazidi and some other thousand are Ahl-e-Haq and about 150 000 - 200 000 are estimated to be Jewish - while there is a growing number of Christians among Kurds... While the rest is either Shiite or Sunni Muslim...

Religion shouldn't be important to society... Just to private persons...

[Marie K.]

i respect evry people but i was only criticized the religion not the people, i hope i've not offended anyone!!
personnaly me i'm not belief person!!it's true that there are only a few yezedis kurd now but why?
cause during arabs invasions they killed alot of yezedis and other maybe so-called as "sects",
and some kurds changeed their first religion (zoroastrism) and had to convert to muslims, they didn't choose this religion, they hadn't other option!!
that's why now there are more kurds who are muslims!

[Diri]

i respect evry people but i was only criticized the religion not the people, i hope i've not offended anyone!!
personnaly me i'm not belief person!!it's true that there are only a few yezedis kurd now but why?
cause during arabs invasions they killed alot of yezedis and other maybe so-called as "sects",
and some kurds changeed their first religion (zoroastrism) and had to convert to muslims, they didn't choose this religion, they hadn't other option!!
that's why now there are more kurds who are muslims!

Yes, what you say is true...


I think most Kurds used to be Yazidi or Zoroastrian... But Islam did force people to convert and just like Christianity did in Europe, Islam inflicted a lot of harm on the Kurds and the Middle East - but also for some people it was good... Because religion is very dangerous in the wrong hands - in the hands of people who are hungry for power and money...

[raman82]

Most Kurds were forcibly converted by arabs during 7th and 8th centuries as conquering armies swept through. Its funny I have a tonnes of persian friends(in the US) who are shiite muslim (on paper ) but when you talk to them and hang out with them , they dont want to know anything about islam , they feel they are Persian Aryamehr, Persian youth here have an IMMENSE dislike/hatred for arabs,which stems from the fact they conquered and superimposed their culture on them,furthered by their EXTREME dislike of the ayatollah regime. You a see a lot of persians wearing zoroastrians symbols such as vultures and ancient symbols as a sign they are proud of their ancient roots. They either say they are agnostic or atheist or zoarostrian lol. Just go on orkut and you will see . So ironically the ayatollah regime inadverntly pushed Persian youth to the other end of the spectrum . Personally i think religion should be PART of your life , whatever it maybe . I dont think it should be YOUR Life. Lot of people just use religion as a vehicle to dominate and do bad things , history has shown that time and time again.