abdur wrote:So why are the long haired kurdish qaderi dervishes hurting themselves?
I think Kurdish dervishes do it to Prove something or Test Something (their belief) but Shias do it just for Crying to reduce their sad feeling and motovate other shias to cry ...
in Iran shia mullahs say , Crying and Beating yourself for Imams , will Clean your Sins (Erotic Sins) , shia mullah says , if you had done Illegal Sex or looked at Girls ... you can clean it by Crying and Beating yourself...many ppl come to cry just for that .
by the way, no shia has ever given me a good answer , for this question ,
if those imams were innoncent , by Dying they will be in Heavon !
and if you belive Death is the end of misery and start of new world ....then why do you cry for their death ? you should be happy they are gone to heavon !