Similarities between Hinduism and Ezidi

[Balci]

I've always thought that Angels came from the monotheistic religions, but im pretty sure ezidi was there before all the other religions? And the believe in Melek Taus.

So were Angels known for the first time from Abrahams religions, or were they already known??

Maybe it is Babylonian faith that has evolved?

That may be a good theory

[sicpit]

I've always thought that Angels came from the monotheistic religions, but im pretty sure ezidi was there before all the other religions? And the believe in Melek Taus.

So were Angels known for the first time from Abrahams religions, or were they already known??

Maybe it is Babylonian faith that has evolved?

That may be a good theory

I am right now reading a biography of the blessed Sheik 'Adi and there are a lot of interesting facts. Yezidi is much like Zoroastrianism, and Zoroastrianism is much like Sanatana Dharma(hinduism), at the same time I reading up on Babylonia and the Summerians, Akkadians, and ancient Assyrians. Very interesting stuff, all together. I am just going to state what I have learned in the past week or so. In no particular order just random fact, and state what I believe.

Sheik 'Adi was not full blooded Kurd, as a matter of fact he was born in Lebanon and is mostly Arab. He does have Kurdish blook in him.
Sheik 'Adi was a sufi mystic, he believed in fasting, and believed in a some what masochist nature of spirituality, much like the sufi Kurds in Iranian Kurdistan that head bang as well as modify the body.
It is said that Yezidi aren't suposed to eat or drink out of the same dishes of other faiths, this may or may not be what Sheik 'Adi said. He would not eat out of anyone's dish but his own.
Sheik 'Adi was not necesarely anti Islam, he didn't like the shia(ironically most kurds who are muslim are sunni or sufi)

Enki and Melek Taus are very similar, Enki was represented by the moon, and water. He was believed to be under the earth, and would rise in the water. He had controll over peoples affairs. Shamash the Akkadian sun god(most related to modern day Allah/Jehovah) was not rivals to the Enki, much like how Melek Taus is not rival to Allah or if you will Xwede. It's interesting to note about the overall Babylonian myths is that the creator of this world are not the highest gods. I am confused if it was Marduk or Enki who created the world. If it was Enki that created the earth, than this is much like Melek Taus. In Babylonian myths there are many paralles to Hinduism and Babylonian myths.

My own personal beliefs, Yezidi is it's own religion with it's own rituals and dogmas. Like all religions it was borrowed from previous ones, as well as their cultural settings. Yezidi is not the oldest religion in the world, how could it be, when Sheik 'Adi was around in the 10th centuary. Yezidi has much similarities with Sufi especially al-Hajjaj, whom had an interesting philosophy on Iblis. From what I gather al-Hallaj's philosophy was that Iblis is master of all, because he refused to bow down anyone other than God. Yezidi I feel has probably changed a great deal since he died, I have a feeling that it was in better shape back then, than it is now. I don't trust the heiarchy(sp) that run Yezidi. This is just me though
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"the seas postponed [the revealing] of truth,
Then kafirs porfaned Husayn's corpse.
[his] blood splashed upwards [and] Husayn said:'[it is] the essence ('ayn) of
secret, by which pride was increasing'.
"The seas [then] said that [it is] true,
Then kafirs tore Husayn's corpse to pieces,
[his] blood splashed upwards, [and] Husayn said:"[it is] the essence ('ayn) of secret, the('ayn) of pleasure, the essence ('ayn)of the the truth[of god] "

[sicpit]

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[Diri]

Thank you for that information, Sicpit...

Very interesting...

But about creating the world - the Êzidî believe God, Xwedê / Xuda made the world... And from a white pearl non the less... That is why white is a holy or sacred colour... And blue is holy or sacred because Melek Tawûz is symbolized by a Tawûz - a peacock...

[sicpit]

Thank you for that information, Sicpit...

Very interesting...

But about creating the world - the Êzidî believe God, Xwedê / Xuda made the world... And from a white pearl non the less... That is why white is a holy or sacred colour... And blue is holy or sacred because Melek Tawûz is symbolized by a Tawûz - a peacock...

It's very interesting talking to Yezidi about their belief in the creation, it's interesting because they can change so drastically from person to person.

[Diri]

Thank you for that information, Sicpit...

Very interesting...

But about creating the world - the Êzidî believe God, Xwedê / Xuda made the world... And from a white pearl non the less... That is why white is a holy or sacred colour... And blue is holy or sacred because Melek Tawûz is symbolized by a Tawûz - a peacock...

It's very interesting talking to Yezidi about their belief in the creation, it's interesting because they can change so drastically from person to person.

:O :O

That means - you've heard otherwise??? Haha

Not a shock... You know it's embedded in their teachings that they must be careful with what they tell people...

That particular explanation was what I read at a site... Don't remember what it was called... Let me see if I can re-locate it!

[sicpit]

Thank you for that information, Sicpit...

Very interesting...

But about creating the world - the Êzidî believe God, Xwedê / Xuda made the world... And from a white pearl non the less... That is why white is a holy or sacred colour... And blue is holy or sacred because Melek Tawûz is symbolized by a Tawûz - a peacock...

It's very interesting talking to Yezidi about their belief in the creation, it's interesting because they can change so drastically from person to person.

:O :O

That means - you've heard otherwise??? Haha

Not a shock... You know it's embedded in their teachings that they must be careful with what they tell people...

That particular explanation was what I read at a site... Don't remember what it was called... Let me see if I can re-locate it!

I have heard so many stories in general that it's hard to pick up. Also in the English Translations it says God created Tausi Melek and then Tausi Created Man kind. Xwede created the earth though. It also says that they are created by Adam only, while everyone elseis adam and eve. All Yezidi reject this idea that I have talked to. THey all say that They are too created from adam and eve. The Yezidi I talk to on a regular basis don't lie to me. They give me links, they give me qawals, they give me songs. They tell me stories and we call eachother friends. I have talked with the Roshoali in SOuthern Kurdistan who is a human rights activist. So I do get my sources from many places.

Thank you Diri

[Diri]

You're welcome brother...


I'm glad you keep in touch with Kurds on a regular basis... That's the only way you'll learn about us for better or for worse... It's your personal experience and you'll make better use of it than you would with a document speaking of us...


Bijî birayê delal...

[sicpit]

You're welcome brother...


I'm glad you keep in touch with Kurds on a regular basis... That's the only way you'll learn about us for better or for worse... It's your personal experience and you'll make better use of it than you would with a document speaking of us...


Bijî birayê delal...

yea, there are lots of fraudulent websites and false documents floating around. I always am a little skeptical if the article, or web page was done by a christian or Muslim, unless they are muslims Kurds! Although E.S. Drower does a good job, and she was a british Christian. She learned Arabic, and did extensive work with the Mandaeans and Yezidi. I swear sometimes I have her soul in my body... but yea, I would trust anything you had to say about Yezidi or any other sufi/gnostic sect of Kurdistan. If you were wrong, I wouldn't think you were just lying to make them look bad, or make you look good

[raman82]

Hey there , I was just surfing through , as I was doing my project on kurds. Im a kashmiri pandit (hindu). Firstly The vedic word for kurds is KURUS , they were one of the aryan tribes which existed in an area in the potowar peninsula (northern pakistan) to northern afghanistan . Some of them went to the area in which present day kurds stay.The kurus which went into the gangetic plain were known as big time fighters lol, they established very powerful kingdoms , few thousand of years ago. By europeans and white scholars they are known as"mittani ",we call them KURU and their names are exactly like vedic indian names . Peacock is a very religious symbol for us. ITs our national bird (Mayur). Another thing Peacocks dont come from that part of the world(northern iraq and eastern turkey) traditionally , they exist largely and are native to the indian subcontinent. For such an old religion like yezidism , it makes sense ,for it to have vedic roots ,otherwise it wouldnt make sense to give such emphasis to peacocks. Ironically we know all this stuff about you people but you guys dont , which is natural , since the area where kurds live has been in constant upheaval since antiquity ,so in the process knowledge is lost to a considerable degree. In any case , they are good books in india which deeply discuss this . IN fact there is a good book called INDIA IN KURDISTAN ,here is the link.
https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no40686.htm

[sicpit]

Hey there , I was just surfing through , as I was doing my project on kurds. Im a kashmiri pandit (hindu). Firstly The vedic word for kurds is KURUS , they were one of the aryan tribes which existed in an area in the potowar peninsula (northern pakistan) to northern afghanistan . Some of them went to the area in which present day kurds stay.The kurus which went into the gangetic plain were known as big time fighters lol, they established very powerful kingdoms , few thousand of years ago. By europeans and white scholars they are known as"mittani ",we call them KURU and their names are exactly like vedic indian names . Peacock is a very religious symbol for us. ITs our national bird (Mayur). Another thing Peacocks dont come from that part of the world(northern iraq and eastern turkey) traditionally , they exist largely and are native to the indian subcontinent. For such an old religion like yezidism , it makes sense ,for it to have vedic roots ,otherwise it wouldnt make sense to give such emphasis to peacocks. Ironically we know all this stuff about you people but you guys dont , which is natural , since the area where kurds live has been in constant upheaval since antiquity ,so in the process knowledge is lost to a considerable degree. In any case , they are good books in india which deeply discuss this . IN fact there is a good book called INDIA IN KURDISTAN ,here is the link.
https://www.vedamsbooks.com/no40686.htm

Thank you, I read on Wikipedia that the Hurrians(ancient people who lived in the Kurdistan Mountains) that their was evedince of of Varuna and Mithra in Hurian myths, However they did say their was no evidence of devotion to these two deities.

[raman82]

ok firstly NEVER TRUST what you read on wikipedia . Most of whats on their is put their by random people, nothing is really verified. About the Hurrians well they were the ancient substrate which existed there ,kurds are partly descended from them but mostly aryan tribes which entered the area , WIth the first wave being the Mittani and second wave being the Medes , whom modern day persians partly descend from . Well think about it logically. First you have the vedic group , then the Avestan praying Medes ,and mixed in with the babylonian/chaldean religions of nineveh and babylon. I think yezidism retained a lot of the original vedic ideas. I also noticed the shape of the oldest yezidi shrine is VERY similar to the structure North Indian temple structure like Tulla Mulla . Esp with the with the small flag at the top. NOt the onion dome shape like mosques.

[Diri]

FANTASTIC information, Raman...

Thank you VERY much!

I'm gonna order that book, if possible...

Great!!! I'm thrilled!

[raman82]

NO problem. Well thing is most books which deal with the whole aryan theory and all , come from Germanic /white people who meld this white blond blue eyed superiority complex into the whole concept. Max muller is like a total racist. This gives an eastern point of view of things and it makes more sense. In any case the Mittani explains it all. They are 101% Vedic Indo aryan. They were different from Persians and Hittites (who lived in western anatolia)

[Diri]

NO problem. Well thing is most books which deal with the whole aryan theory and all , come from Germanic /white people who meld this white blond blue eyed superiority complex into the whole concept. Max muller is like a total racist. This gives an eastern point of view of things and it makes more sense. In any case the Mittani explains it all. They are 101% Vedic Indo aryan. They were different from Persians and Hittites (who lived in western anatolia)

Pardon me - I just need to write this down for future reference: the Hittites were based in north-central/western Anatolia (todays Yozgat, Çorum, Amasya, Eskişehir etc.) and just south and east of them, in todays Amed (Diyarbakir), Riha (Urfa) etc. were the Mittanis... Indeed the Mittani were more Indian and darker than any of the other peoples around - they may have brought the strongest Indian influence ever present in Kurdistan...

The Persian on the other hand were never near Anatolia...

For maps of the Hittite and Mittani empires, see google!