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PostAuthor: AlbaSaab » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:16 pm

red wolf wrote:you answr you fellows in uk loves kill childrens they call them terorists .

the only thing west wants is money
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about.

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PostAuthor: K4L_2007 » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:11 pm

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zarya wrote:Tirigan, I understand what you are talking about. Everyday in America, I see women degrading themselves, men abusing the innocent and many other horrific acts. But the fact is America is a great country. Women's rights are many times protected as well childrens' and the elderly. Islam is a religion that many times gives a man the wrong sense of power; making him believe that he is higher and more favored in the eyes of God.
Everyday in muslim countries, women are raped and then shamed from their families. They are abused but are not to say a word. It is quite absurd that some muslim men believe that they will get an unlimited number of virgins in Heaven. Some religions regrade women just as the unfaithful.

I respect every religion for the peace that it brings to people's hearts. But I can't identify one country where religion has a strong hold and that is very developed. Science is everything. If there wasn't science, you probably wouldn't live a very long life and you wouldn't be cured of your ailments. As far as I am concered, science has done more good for people than religion. Being in medical school, I realize the importance of research and science. God isn't the one trying to find the cure for AIDS and cancer, it is us humans.

I also of course agree with Piling because I am an atheist. Everyone has the freedom to choose what they believe in and if they do not believe in God then forcing themselves to belive is a facade. I don't believe God exists. But hey, I still read the Quran, Bible and Torah, because they help you live a better, more righteous life. But I disregard what it says about God.

And by the way Tirigan, it isn't us atheists who are killing each other. Muslims, jews and christians are killing each other. It is you faithful believers who in the name of God, kill others who believe. So who is really the pitiful one?


Let me see exactly how much good science has done:

Cars - The reason the worlds nature is going down, + a lot of bad environtment which raises the percent of getting diseases.

Weapons - People kill eachother with these, yes the very same people from "It isn't us atheists who are killing each other. Muslims, jews and christians are killing each other."

I can also count more non-religionbased wars than religionbased.

Nuclear weapons - Yes, the nuclear weapons that scientists created. Nuclear weapons that have killed lots of ppl.

These were just a few examples, but great ones.



You must also know that the Islam Mohammad created, is not followed by most of the muslims today.

I'd say the only good scientists has done is to create medicines to diseases that comes from their own creations.
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Re: what am I?

PostAuthor: sicpit » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:04 pm

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zarya wrote:Hi everyone,
I thought this was a pretty interesting subject considering I have been pondering over my own creed for the past couple of years. My family is muslim just as the rest of my relatives. My parents never did the traditional islamic prayers with the exception of Ramadan when they would fast and pray. I had not been educated about any religion except Islam. Actually I hadn't been educated about Islam either for neither my parents, my illiterate grandmother, my uncle or my brothers and I had ever read the Quran. We were refugees in Pakistan and these were my family members.
When I moved to the US, I began learning about other religions and of course about the big bang theory. I loved reading and I still do, so learning about these beliefs were neither shameful or forbidden in my perspective. I studied religions back to the Greek societies and the mythical gods. It was about two years ago when I declared to myself that I was not a muslim, or anything else for that matter. Religion, in my view, is a story we create as society shifts in a direction we distaste, so that we can gain control. I don't believe in the big bang theory either. So today, I am an atheist and I don't think that that will ever change. I can always lie to myself and others and say that I am muslim but in the back of my mind, I will always know. Both of my best friends are devout Christians and that has never been an issue for any of us.
It will be quite interesting if I go back to Kurdistan, after I am done with medical school, date a guy and have to tell him that I am an atheist. I don't think I will ever get a call back. But I really don't care. I have always been freespirited, never caring about rumors and gossip. I love who I am and if I don't believe in God, well then I don't.



Zarya Islam is a beautifull religon, study it before you judge it, and I promise it will reestablish your faith.



When I read the Qu'ran, all I see is fear tactics. The fear of going to hell. This to me isn't spiritual but the oppoisite of spiritual. I will not submit to a deity that says Believe this or else. :evil:
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PostAuthor: Diri » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:42 pm

Hi Sicpit :)

What is your religious conviction?
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PostAuthor: sicpit » Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:50 pm

Diri wrote:Hi Sicpit :)

What is your religious conviction?


I don't have a religoin, I am not atheist though, I believe in many gods, but only one God! I believe we create all the gods in our own image, because the real God is too big to grasp. I believe not much diferently than Hindus, accept I have no dietary limits, I eat pork and beef. I also believe what ezidi believes. I do worship Tawsi Melek, despite the fact that I am an outsider. My beliefs are really complicated to describe, but To make it as simple as possible, I believe all religion to be a way to god. I don't believe in adversary gods, angels or djinn. So there for I can' t accept Christianity and Islam, for they blame everything on Iblis, which to me is just a scape goat for human error. Shytn didn't make you do this, you made yourself do this! It's really confusing I know, but do you sort of understand?


I hold no malace towards any religion, just it's people
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Re: what am I?

PostAuthor: raman82 » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:27 pm

Yes , in hinduism there is no such thing as heaven , hell , all of them exist on earth or other planets (hindusim believes there is life on other planets) , heaven is being able to be happy and well settled , hell is enduring great suffering and pain or witnessing it. As far as devil or shaytan is concerned , we do believe in that and demons but we also believe that they have their place , if everyone was good , you would lose the meaning of what good is .There is a constant struggle between good and evil , but good should always have the larger part .
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