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PostAuthor: islamic~pride » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:45 pm

Zoroastrians are included as People of the Book, as they believe in the one God :D la ilaha ilallah
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PostAuthor: islamic~pride » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:49 pm

one is muslem and wants to study islam but doenst want to offend the whole Denmark Country, what should he do ?


there are other sites

http://www.khoshkan.com/

http://hem.bredband.net/aine-islam/

http://www.dangiislam.org/
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PostAuthor: Diri » Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:00 pm

Well of course... If you read about Zerdesht at PERSIAN sites... They will say he was PERSIAN...

If you read about Zerdesht in Azeri sites - they will tell you he was AZERI... :roll:


Avestan is Pehlevî - which is todays Goranî-Dimilî-Hewramî-Zazakî-Kurmanckî...
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:55 am

avesta the book of the zoroasterians is in a language that is SO SO SO close to Hewrami .

you know Hewrami is a branch of Kurdish language, most of the words are used JUST in Hewrami langague (not in sorani and kirmanci) are also used in Avesta . and Hewrami peopel see themself more kurd than any other Kurd.

if you have ever heared the special music of Hewraman , which is called Sya çemane it was the way that zoroasterian relligous leaders prayed (something like Azan in Islam)

there are many secrets in Hewraman that historians and scientists should find them out.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:03 am

Have you got some samples of hewrami language ? just some sentences or a short text or song, I would like to read it.
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PostAuthor: heval » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:27 pm

islamic~pride wrote:ohh i see :D

Zerdesht - the Prophet of Zerdeshtî religion - was a Kurd... From same area as me...


:? in everything ive read it has never said the prophet zerdasht was a kurd, it says he was a persian, because their religious book is in farsi too.


The book of Zerdesht is Avesta. It was written in an old form of Hewramî Kurdish.
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PostAuthor: heval » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:32 pm

Piling wrote:Have you got some samples of hewrami language ? just some sentences or a short text or song, I would like to read it.



Sure! What types of samples are you looking for?

By the way, we know many who have studied Avesta. It is quite astonishing how close the Avestian texts are with Hewramî. If you know Hewramî fluently, there is no doubt with a little exposure, you will be able to fully understand it.

Also, another thing to note is... if you have ever listened to old Hewramî songs where there are no instruments but just singing, which is still popular in Kurdistan... the style of singing actually came from the way Zerdushts used to recite Avesta.
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PostAuthor: Piling » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:43 pm

well just texts with which I could have an idean of hewrami, any kind of texts, just for seeing the language and see how it is, and if I can understand something (I speak only kurmancî and understand soranî a bit) and check the difference with kurmancî.
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PostAuthor: dyaoko » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:50 pm

Piling wrote:well just texts with which I could have an idean of hewrami, any kind of texts, just for seeing the language and see how it is, and if I can understand something (I speak only kurmancî and understand soranî a bit) and check the difference with kurmancî.


well you are lucky, I am half hewrami :wink:

here is an easy sample , I think you will undrestand it:

tasey dûryeket kariş pêm kerden
westem le giyan , razîm we merden

missing you , has done such a thing to me
that I am tired from life and I rather die

Note : in hewrami there is no x , so Xeste would be Weste .
xane (meaning home) would be Yane
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PostAuthor: heval » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:54 pm

Piling wrote:well just texts with which I could have an idean of hewrami, any kind of texts, just for seeing the language and see how it is, and if I can understand something (I speak only kurmancî and understand soranî a bit) and check the difference with kurmancî.


There are great differences in both words and sentence structure with Kurmancî, although the basic words between the two tend to be very similar. Hewramî is part of the Guranî family, and of course shares similarities in structure with Zazakî as I've mentioned before (similar to how Kurmancî shares similarities with Soranî in structure). (you've heard Zazakî before right?)

I tried to start a conversation in Hewramî a long time ago in this forum and only kak Dyaoko responded with a half-Hewramî half-Soranî answer :P

http://northerniraq.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=570

If you want, just tell me what you'd like me to say in Hewramî and I will say it.
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PostAuthor: islamic~pride » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:59 pm

http://www.reka-islam.net/details.php?image_id=116

Just let people know..on the same site Mosul already mentioned, there is a complete translation of the Quran into Kurdish (kurmanji) through audio Its really helpful for those who dont attend islamic school or cant speak arabic or dont have a Kurdish Quran at home :wink:
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PostAuthor: Piling » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:56 am

I tried to start a conversation in Hewramî a long time ago in this forum and only kak Dyaoko responded with a half-Hewramî half-Soranî answer Razz


Thanx. I read it. Then by reading I can understand quite everything, I suppose it is less easy to understand people when they speak quickly... :)
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PostAuthor: Diri » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:25 pm

islamic~pride wrote:http://www.reka-islam.net/details.php?image_id=116

Just let people know..on the same site Mosul already mentioned, there is a complete translation of the Quran into Kurdish (kurmanji) through audio Its really helpful for those who dont attend islamic school or cant speak arabic or dont have a Kurdish Quran at home :wink:


Islamic Pride - that was the whole point of this thread in the first place... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Glad you figured that out all by yourself :P


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PostAuthor: islamic~pride » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:34 pm

no, cos some one said that it wasnt even in kurdish.. :) :roll:
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