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Didn't Bahman say he was an Iraqi? And calling Kurdistan Iraq??
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Bahman Ghobadi or Hiner Saleem?
Author: Vladimir » Mon May 23, 2005 12:29 pm
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Author: dyaoko » Mon May 23, 2005 12:53 pm
no vladimir you are wrong, bahman is iranian Kurd ! where did you hear he said that ?
thats lie he never said he is iraqi...
he said,
he said
whatever....
Bahman ghobadi is so so so much better than hiner saleem.
mind that in iran ,you have to make your movies by iran law, and under iran secureity agents watch, and also you have to make movies by islam law.
means you cant show a woman witohut Hejab in the movie...
you cant even show a brother kisses or touches his sister in the movies...
you can see in the turtle can fly movie ,,,bahmadn showed many Love scences witohut any "Skin TOUCH" ! (have you even mentioned that?)
Bahmand Ghobadi was the first kurd movie maker , who made kurdish cinema international...
while iraqi kurd director had a little freedom , they didnt do anything
but bahman did his jobs in IRAN ! bahman said "I will make kurdistan Country in the Cinema Map...soon there will something called Cinema of Kurdisatn....and will be recongized by World's Art Map"
Saleeem has too much to be like Bahman.
Bahmand got the "San Sebastian" Award the biggest art award of Spain.
Bahmadn makes his works while he has many Red Lines and Limitiations...
thats lie he never said he is iraqi...
he said,
they didnt allow me to say this movie is made by Iraqi Kurdistan govenrment.
so I said this movie was made by both Iran and Iraq governemnts
he said
just me (driector) and the Camera Man were Iranian. everybody else was iraqi kurd but we have to name it a movie by iran-iraq gov
whatever....
Bahman ghobadi is so so so much better than hiner saleem.
mind that in iran ,you have to make your movies by iran law, and under iran secureity agents watch, and also you have to make movies by islam law.
means you cant show a woman witohut Hejab in the movie...
you cant even show a brother kisses or touches his sister in the movies...
you can see in the turtle can fly movie ,,,bahmadn showed many Love scences witohut any "Skin TOUCH" ! (have you even mentioned that?)
Bahmand Ghobadi was the first kurd movie maker , who made kurdish cinema international...
while iraqi kurd director had a little freedom , they didnt do anything
but bahman did his jobs in IRAN ! bahman said "I will make kurdistan Country in the Cinema Map...soon there will something called Cinema of Kurdisatn....and will be recongized by World's Art Map"
Saleeem has too much to be like Bahman.
Bahmand got the "San Sebastian" Award the biggest art award of Spain.
Bahmadn makes his works while he has many Red Lines and Limitiations...
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then YOU WIN !
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Author: Vladimir » Mon May 23, 2005 3:57 pm
Hmm on Dutch telivision he called Kurdistan Irak and Kurdish people Iraqi's..
Maybe they translated it in a wrong way then
Maybe they translated it in a wrong way then
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Author: Diri » Mon May 23, 2005 4:00 pm
Vladimir - then that is just the propoganda of the Dutch Television.. Why don't you send a complaint???
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Author: Vladimir » Mon May 23, 2005 4:02 pm
Because I don't know Kurdish.. I put the link here and then you guys hear if he says something about Iraqi. (Only a lil bit Sorani/Kurmanji)
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/t ... =Interview
http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/t ... =Interview
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Author: dyaoko » Mon May 23, 2005 9:51 pm
oh it is in farsi ! not kurdish !
it says "in the world sattelites Bush and Saddam are the first charracter , peopel of the world like HOT news ... but in my movie iraqi ppl kurd ppl themself are the first character , Bush and Saddam are not focused at all"'
I will translate more later...
it says "in the world sattelites Bush and Saddam are the first charracter , peopel of the world like HOT news ... but in my movie iraqi ppl kurd ppl themself are the first character , Bush and Saddam are not focused at all"'
I will translate more later...
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Author: Vladimir » Mon May 23, 2005 9:55 pm
I just want to know about "iraq" I can read the subtitle for the other part. I want to know if they translated it right.
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Author: pesh17 » Tue May 24, 2005 4:53 am
Bahman Gobadi i think has an edge over Hiner Saleem. But to tell the truth I have yet to see kilometre zero. So I cant make a educated decision just yet, but im sure, bahman has the edge, his movies are very inspiring.
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Author: Diri » Tue May 24, 2005 6:08 am
Pesh can I ask you...
Why do you say "Silav" when acttually meaning "goodbye"... or "see ya"...
Silva means "Hello!" "Hi"... It's a bit wrong to say it when upon leaving...
Why do you say "Silav" when acttually meaning "goodbye"... or "see ya"...
Silva means "Hello!" "Hi"... It's a bit wrong to say it when upon leaving...
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Why would you want to even compare the two?
Author: kurdo » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:21 pm
Hi everyone. I stumbled on this site actually by looking for info on Hiner Saleem. I think it's great to debate on which directors work you prefer but to say something negative about either one is absurd. I can hardly believe that the day is here where we can discuss the works of not one but two great Kurdish film makers. Their styles are very different but these two gentleman have given the rest of us Kurds the belief that we to can one day step outside the typical jobs that we are brought up and encouraged to do. I hope this inspires more Kurdish artists to step forward and have the belief that they too can get their works seen or published. Another Kurdish film maker making some noise is a man based out of New York City named Jalal Jonroy. You should support his film if it comes to your area. The name of the movie is David and Layla.
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Author: dyaoko » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:37 pm
first of all welcome to this forum Kurdo .
Jalal Jonroy? never heard his name ..can you find a link in intenret containing information abou him?
Jalal Jonroy? never heard his name ..can you find a link in intenret containing information abou him?
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Author: Diri » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:58 pm
I KNOW! Welcome Kurdo! Enjoy the Forum! 
Jonroy's movie is a Kurdish epic - about Leyla who is an ex-gêrîla and she meets and falls in love with this man - called David - he is Jewish! And THIS IS A TRUE STORY!
I REALLY HOPE IT COMES TO NORWAY!
Jonroy's movie is a Kurdish epic - about Leyla who is an ex-gêrîla and she meets and falls in love with this man - called David - he is Jewish! And THIS IS A TRUE STORY!
I REALLY HOPE IT COMES TO NORWAY!
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Thank you for the welcome
Author: kurdo » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:10 am
Hey guys, you can find more info on jalal jonroy on http://www.newrozfilms.com. Thanks for the nice welcome.
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Author: Diri » Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:52 am
Dyaoko - Don't you remember the review of the film I posted at KBU NEWS? 
I even put up the posters for the film... Both of them! 
Well - anyway - I am VERY excieted about this film - because this is the FIRST "Hollywood style" ( and I say "Hollywood style" because it is the first film about Kurds produced in the US, under US standards)... Anybody in the US seen it??? And what about video? Maybe I can buy it at amazon...
I even put up the posters for the film... Both of them!
Well - anyway - I am VERY excieted about this film - because this is the FIRST "Hollywood style" ( and I say "Hollywood style" because it is the first film about Kurds produced in the US, under US standards)... Anybody in the US seen it??? And what about video? Maybe I can buy it at amazon...
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Author: Vladimir » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:31 pm
Hollywood style?? I think I am not going to see that movie.
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