Roj Bash Kurdistan

In yesterday meeting, KRG president met with all of KRG political parties except Gorran who had announced it will not participate earlier.

In the meeting it was decided to send a delegation to baghdad which will consist of all of the political parties of KRG, the delegation will give baghdad a time frame to solve the outstanding issues, should baghdad fail to deliver within this time frame, then all of the parties will return to the voice of kurdish citizens to decide their fate for the region including the sliced off areas.

http://rudaw.net/kurdish/index.php/news/17849.html

I predict some good news coming from kurdistan sometime this week. By the way gorran seriously has issues they get votes from people thinking they want to stop corruption, but they are the corrupt ones backstabbing kurdistan for Iraq.

They should have done this before, right after 140 wasn't implemented back in 2007. But still good move. And I want Goran to put aside their personal issues with Barzani. We need all our leaders to stick together. This is about Kurdistans future and its national security.

According to this article the time frame is end of this year, if Baghdad does not implement 140, release Peshmerga budget and pass oil/gas law, all of Kurdistani bloc MPs , high to low Kurdish officials will leave Baghdad and never return.
http://www.berwra.com/ku/hawalligrng/67 ... 55-55.html

Never return ? So Barzani will declare the long awaited Kurdish state after all after US elections and in 2013!?

alan131210 wrote:According to this article the time frame is end of this year, if Baghdad does not implement 140, release Peshmerga budget and pass oil/gas law, all of Kurdistani bloc MPs , high to low Kurdish officials will leave Baghdad and never return.
http://www.berwra.com/ku/hawalligrng/67 ... 55-55.html

Never return ? So Barzani will declare the long awaited Kurdish state after all after US elections and in 2013!?

He's been saying that so many times, i sure hope he means it now.

Kurds head for Baghdad talks as 'final attempt' to end conflict

October 19, 2012

ERBIL-Hewlêr, Kurdistan region 'Iraq', — The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) decided to send a delegation to Baghdad in the framework of a "final" attempt to end disputes. The decision was taken after a meeting held by Kurdish forces under the leadership of Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan region of Iraq.

Meanwhile, opposition leaders demanded an independent strategy based on the principle of consensus in the management of the differences of between the KRG and its neighbors.

Omid Sabah, spokesman for the presidency of the Kurdistan region, told Al-Hayat that the meeting, which was summoned by Barzani and boycotted by the opposition Al-Tagheer [Change List] movement, led Kurdish forces to "agree on sending a delegation to Baghdad, which may be the last attempt to resolve the crisis."

Sabah pointed out that the Kurds "will take a united stand (the nature of which was not revealed), in the event that they fail to reach a solution.”

On the other hand, Kurdish opposition leaders issued a statement after a meeting held yesterday [Oct. 17], calling for "work on returning responsibility for the region’s draft constitution — as well the responsibility for national laws — to the parliament, and the need to adopt consensus in passing these laws and the need to turn the regime into a parliamentary one."

The statement also highlighted the need to "create the necessary atmosphere and suitable platform that can help facilitate free and transparent elections and develop an independent strategy to develop the management of the [Kurdish] region's disputes with its neighbors, defend its interests and stay away from turning the region into a point used by regional powers to settle political accounts.”

Mohammed Tawfiq Rahim, head of diplomatic relations for the opposition Al-Tagheer [Change List] movement, told Al-Hayat that the movement "refused the invitation of KRG President Massoud Barzani to attend a meeting held by Kurdish forces, because we are convinced that there is no point in holding such meetings."

The movement "will not appoint representatives, in the event that a Kurdish delegation for negotiations with Baghdad is formed, having already pulled out of the coalition of Kurdish blocs in the Iraqi parliament," he added.

Barham Saleh, deputy secretary general of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, voiced his hope that "the members of the delegation traveling to Baghdad will not be restricted to the two main parties, but will also include representatives of opposition leaders as well, so that we can unite and defend the rights of our people and stress the need to resolve differences through dialogue.

"We are committed to the Iraqi constitution, but the Kurdish people are entitled to decide their own destiny. They have the right to stay in Iraq and participate in the Iraqi government, in line with the federal democratic constitution," he added.

Saleh pointed out during a meeting with a delegation of academics, intellectuals, politicians and journalists from Baghdad and Iraqi provinces that "a deep crisis is plaguing Baghdad amid attempts to destabilize the situation in the region. Therefore, this meeting is held to conduct a dialogue to know the facts and prove that the problem lies in Baghdad, not with the Kurds.”

by al-monitor.com

No but look above is the same topic different website

hmm, the seconde time frame, if it is again a bluff, that would be very sad for KDP and kurdistan. that makes KRG implausible, so they have to calculate exactly what they say.

i hope it is not idle threat,

i believe this is a bluff/threat to baghdad,to make them solve the problems.
Iraq did agree to pay the oil companies on the 13 september (2 days before the last deadline).I think KRG is trying their luck again with the same tactic,hoping to solve some of the other problems too like the peshmerga budget.

In my opinion,the date for independence will probably be late 2013-early 2014.

This is of course my opinion. They could of course mean it this time,even tough i doubt it...

Rando wrote:i believe this is a bluff/threat to baghdad,to make them solve the problems.
Iraq did agree to pay the oil companies on the 13 september (2 days before the last deadline).I think KRG is trying their luck again with the same tactic,hoping to solve some of the other problems too like the peshmerga budget.

In my opinion,the date for independence will probably be late 2013-early 2014.

This is of course my opinion. They could of course mean it this time,even tough i doubt it...

The KRG has to declare independence earlier. If we wait for so long, Iraq will have recieve jet fighters before we seperate.

RawandKurdistani wrote:

Rando wrote:i believe this is a bluff/threat to baghdad,to make them solve the problems.
Iraq did agree to pay the oil companies on the 13 september (2 days before the last deadline).I think KRG is trying their luck again with the same tactic,hoping to solve some of the other problems too like the peshmerga budget.

In my opinion,the date for independence will probably be late 2013-early 2014.

This is of course my opinion. They could of course mean it this time,even tough i doubt it...

The KRG has to declare independence earlier. If we wait for so long, Iraq will have recieve jet fighters before we seperate.

iraq will recieve four L-159 in mid-late 2013. They will not be a huge threat to us,especially not in such low numbers (the rest will be delivered in 2015-17)
Iraq decided to buy NEW twin seat L-159s. Thats why they wont recive them for so many years.
+ F-16s will be delivered in September 2014

Rando wrote:

RawandKurdistani wrote:

Rando wrote:i believe this is a bluff/threat to baghdad,to make them solve the problems.
Iraq did agree to pay the oil companies on the 13 september (2 days before the last deadline).I think KRG is trying their luck again with the same tactic,hoping to solve some of the other problems too like the peshmerga budget.

In my opinion,the date for independence will probably be late 2013-early 2014.

This is of course my opinion. They could of course mean it this time,even tough i doubt it...

The KRG has to declare independence earlier. If we wait for so long, Iraq will have recieve jet fighters before we seperate.

iraq will recieve four L-159 in mid-late 2013. They will not be a huge threat to us,especially not in such low numbers (the rest will be delivered in 2015-17)
Iraq decided to buy NEW twin seat L-159s. Thats why they wont recive them for so many years.
+ F-16s will be delivered in September 2014

I hope your right, but i find it dangerous to take the risk.