p y d gunmen firing on protesters in kobani and kill a boy

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http://www.facebook.com/TjmShbabKwbanyH ... anenKobane

[burnsss]

The demonstration based on my informations was organized by FSA and some sale out Kurds and they attacked PYD base .

Contra Guerilla and Village Guards tactics obviously Turkey has its hands in this. They know only Kurds can beat Kurds, but not this time.

Let this be a lesson to the Users here, now they have seen a agent-troll in action. Never trust everything some random guy claims.

Killing jash is right and duty for all kurds, they are number one enemy of kurds, first you cleanse your house of dirt before facing the real enemy.

[freekurd2013]

Is this all you can do
Killing people and impose your opinion by violence
Accusation of treason
For those who say that they know West Kurdistan
stop telling lies please
And provid a proof on honesty
It is common in kobani ("ain al arab عين العرب" in arabic syria) and all areas along the border
Using aTurkish Internet lines
In order to get rid of the Syrian Intelligence Surveillance
And the availability and affordability
This is not an extraordinary thing in kobani
Stop follies. You're not children. You are destroying Kurdistan by your foolishness

[talsor]

Is this all you can do
Killing people and impose your opinion by violence
Accusation of treason
For those who say that they know West Kurdistan
stop telling lies please
And provid a proof on honesty
It is common in kobani ("ain al arab عين العرب" in arabic syria) and all areas along the border
Using aTurkish Internet lines
In order to get rid of the Syrian Intelligence Surveillance
And the availability and affordability
This is not an extraordinary thing in kobani
Stop follies. You're not children. You are destroying Kurdistan by your foolishness

Heval
what is your goal here and what do you expect Kurds to do ?
PKK and PYD are Kurdish entities fighting for Kurds and Kurdistan . They certainly have their ups and downs just like any other political party , but this is not the case here . You can see clearly from the videos FSA fighters along with people demonstrating against PYD and anybody with half brain will understand in advance what will happen in cases like this . You obviously understand Arabic and Kurdish and you can clearly hear PYD asking the demonstrators to go home and avoid violence ,Yet you can clearly hear these Jashes and terrorists saying " PKK Shabiha " and " Aljash alhur Alah yehmeek " . Now tell me what kind of Kurds would say something like that considering the FSA atrocities against Western Kurds ?
Do you think these FSA terrorists give a damn about Kurds ? Do you think if PYD/PKK somehow disappear that Kurds will be in a better situation in western Kurdistan ? Does the FSA recognize Kurdish rights ? does the Syrian opposition counsel even bother talking about kurdish rights ? I could go on , but you get my drift here .

If you are here to show that PYD or PKK are anti kurd then you are in the wrong place and you will get as you can clearly see NO sympathy .Now are we done here or do you want to talk more ?

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I have personal and direct contacts with many Western Kurds and I can say that what this guy says about PYD is absolutely true and not at all recent. They fought all Kurdish demonstrations against Baath until the last summer. They stopped after the Erbil agreement but not entirely. Many demonstrations are attacked by PYD in Hassake, Kobane, Qamishlo. In Efrîn, ppl can say nothing, it is political terror.

Now they seized many parts of Kurdish cities but they are not very loved by the population : they continue to do the same as before : kidnapping, torture, threats and rackets. They even ask money to Kurds who fled from Syria to KRG ! Is that brotherhood ? I have personal friends in Efrîn that PYD threaten to kill. And they are not at all Jash. (It is so laughable when PYD call other Kurds 'jash').

Concerning the flag it is funny when PYD accuse FSA to refuse Kurdistan flag coz they are in fact against that flag and until recently did accept only their own flag durings demonstrations and tears the Kurdish flag.

The point is that PYD acts in the same way that PKK (they are the same) : Be with us or die. And not 'be with us for Kurdistan', but 'be with us for Öcalan'. The rest of Kurdish National Council don't like Jihad or extremist FSA but they can't accept that ppl who collaborated with Baath until July gave them lessons of patriotism.

Other Kurdish parties are weak, divided and had no weapons. So ppl shut up, and are trapped between fanatics of PYD and the fear they have of fanatics Arabs. I think most of Kurds wish that Kurdish Western pesghmerga trained by KRG arrive and protect them. Why do u think PYD block them ?

So the Erbil agreement could have been useful but they are dead now.

For the next step of the war, let's see what will happen when Baath army come to Kurdish cities. At this time, Kurds from PYD could not stop them by themselves (in the case where they would like to stop them instead of welcoming them again) : they must accept the help of FSA or calling Peshmerga.

Concerning a Turkish ip in Kobane if u see the map it is not a surprise. Even phones does work better with Turkish operator, they are on the border.

[hevalo27]

in the chaos someone have to take the controle and who if not the strongest kurdish party with most support ? it is funny when all small partys belive they can rule in a democratic manner during a civil war. i dont know wheter PYD prevented demonstrations in the past but this have nothing to mean. if they would let them demonstrate and fight the regime what do you guys think assad would make with the kurdish areas? should i show you actuall pictures of homs, damascus and allepo ? should i really?
from beginning we said that PYD is neutral to the war and saves the kurdish peoples against the regime and the rebels, it is not our war, why do you guys want fight and die for arabs which would like assad supress you. do you really think FSA is better than them ? when it comes to kurds they are all the same. let them fight each other and be neutral. noone will give us autonomy

you should stop calling PYD traitors and realize that they are the only reason there is not absolutely chaos in west kurdistan. the real traitors are those who brings the kurdish areas in danger, wave the kurdish flag together with the FSA flag and use their slogans. THATS YOU !

And not 'be with us for Kurdistan', but 'be with us for Öcalan'.

yes, all their doings are for öcalan, not for kurdistan. they give kurdish lesson and handout food rations for öcalan. PYD prevents chaos and mass death for öcalan.
the build autonomy structures only for öcalan. fight drug dealers and smugglers in west kurdistan only for öcalan. they fought the turkmen and arabs when they attacked kurdish villages only for öcalan. please stop with this lies.

[alan131210]

Time has come for the 10,000 trained Peshmergas currently in SK to enter Western Kurdistan.

[Kurdistano]

Is this all you can do
Killing people and impose your opinion by violence
Accusation of treason
For those who say that they know West Kurdistan
stop telling lies please
And provid a proof on honesty
It is common in kobani ("ain al arab عين العرب" in arabic syria) and all areas along the border
Using aTurkish Internet lines
In order to get rid of the Syrian Intelligence Surveillance
And the availability and affordability
This is not an extraordinary thing in kobani
Stop follies. You're not children. You are destroying Kurdistan by your foolishness

Dude forget about your IP Adress. The Kurdish you use is not from Western Kurdistan.

[Kurdistano]

I have personal and direct contacts with many Western Kurds and I can say that what this guy says about PYD is absolutely true and not at all recent. They fought all Kurdish demonstrations against Baath until the last summer. They stopped after the Erbil agreement but not entirely. Many demonstrations are attacked by PYD in Hassake, Kobane, Qamishlo. In Efrîn, ppl can say nothing, it is political terror.

These are old stories, inform yourself before making such statements. Today we all know the PYD tries to state neutral (what was the right choice) while some of your Kurdish groups want the Western Kurds to join the FSA, which has neither accepted any demands of autonomy nor Kurdish language becoming official part of Syria. And after the recent developments when FSA soldiers killed dozen of Kurdish civilians, took 120 civilians as Prisoners and refused the Kurdish flag to rise in Sere Kaniya, how come it that a group of pricks go on the street together with the FSA and insult and demonstrate against the PYD? What should they have done in your opinion, genius?

The only thing I disagree with them is that the refuse at now to let in the Peshmerga.

[alan131210]

guys lets not be stubborn and blind, noone i mean noone will ever deal with pyd or recognize WK under pyd rule, forget it not in a million years, however with the bless of KRG and its army, yes its guaranteed.

[Qonyeyi]

A lot of bullshi* from these two. First of, whoever states that PYD is not very popular is a liar. I have many friends who are from WK and they are all support PYD and have done for several years. We are not denying anything but we need proof of what you are saying.

[Bahoz]

Fellow Kurds,

I am always with freedom of speech and everybody can say whatever he or she thinks, but I think some people abuse that right..and again this is personal opinion! freekurd is spreading lies and I don't know if admin can suspend him! I am from west and I get call and texts all time and I watch news 24 hours and I know how parties are working in west!. PYD has nothing to do with this at all! some jash parties who want kurds to fight against each other and who works for Turks and others are making such stuff! this kurdish guy was killed by them to blame it on PYD. PYD supporters or YPG was not presented during this protest and the firing start from one of the kurdish parties (I think YEKITI) and some civil people were injured.

[Bahoz]

I have to correct one thing, just to be right. the gunman who started shooting was on roof of AZADI party not YEKITI

[Bahoz]

and btw, when the guy was shot he was sent to emergency and hospital took care of him and the doctors said he will be fine, but then all suddenly some parties insisted to move to Turkey hospitals and he died there! so what does that tell us? for God sake ..

[Kurdistano]

Kurds dont be stupid or blind we have seen enough of the dirty tactics of our enemies to know that all they want is to create chaos among Kurds so we end up like the Syrian opposition, a bunch of unorganized young people. We are very organized compared to them and this is what frustrates our enemies the most. I will not believe any of this nonsense lies spread around until Barzani or someone from the KRG confirms it. Since now Barzani has not said a word about PYD killing "innocent" Kurds.