Clashes in Serêkaniyê in West Kurdistan - FLASH

[Piling]

Your a FSA supporter. Possibly a Salhuddin Brigade bandit supporter. and FSA supporter. You can still be a Kurd though.

The funniest thing is that people could wonder by reading him what is the worst insult for Qoneyî : Being a Jihadist, a FSA member or a Kurd !

[Qonyeyi]

Your a FSA supporter. Possibly a Salhuddin Brigade bandit supporter. and FSA supporter. You can still be a Kurd though.

The funniest thing is that people could wonder by reading him what is the worst insult for Qoneyî : Being a Jihadist, a FSA member or a Kurd !

I dont see whats funny. You can be whatever you want to be. Just dont act like you care for the Kurdish cause. You obviously dont.

[Anthea]

Your a FSA supporter. Possibly a Salhuddin Brigade bandit supporter. and FSA supporter. You can still be a Kurd though.

The funniest thing is that people could wonder by reading him what is the worst insult for Qoneyî : Being a Jihadist, a FSA member or a Kurd !

I dont see whats funny. You can be whatever you want to be. Just dont act like you care for the Kurdish cause. You obviously dont.

CHILDREN BEHAVE YOURSELVES

[Bahoz]

Piling, you showed how you can be another fake pen! when you mix things up and you mention PKK is Marxist and then you say they dropped that ideology and made hybrid one.
you can be Kurds friend! but certainly you don't know how kurdish struggle toward freedom is going and certainly you don't know how situation is in WK. all you mention is that why PYD doesn't allow peshmerga to go inside Syria! don't you have soemthing else to mention?!
there is reason why Peshermaga are not entering WK right and we have mentioned these reasons 100 times here! you can go back to old topics and search!

I think you can be a good kurdish friend when you support all kurds regardless of how they fight for their rights and not be part of the kurdish kurdish arguments! you can be french or Barber, or morrocian or Algerian or original french.
as for ideology! people can be whatever they want! just like how French are socialist and how Americans are capitalist and how Chinese are communist! so that doesn't make one less than another.

Dyaoko,
We welcome all Kurd friends! we welcome their support for us! but we will not welcome some of their fake pens to mess facts and attack mentally one Kurdish against another! so you don't have to be none kurds lawyer we all under and respect people! thats how we kurds are!

[Piling]

Don't talk as if you were all the Kurdish people. Many Kurds don't like PKK nor PYD and Kurds in Syria more than elsewhere are shared by many movements. Many of them, in general belonging to parties among KNC see PYD as dictator as it is said in the paper, but they rather of course to have Kurdish forces than islamists. Some could rather also work with Arab democrats than Kurdish dictators. Some are pro PYD some are not. If for you, anti PYD are traitors then, be ready to exterminate half of Kurds in Syria…

Inter-Kurdish tensions mounting against Free Syrian Army 20.11.2012
By Lauren Williams - The Daily Star Lebanon
DUHOK, Kurdistan region 'Iraq',— Unwilling to fight alongside the Syrian Army while they targeted civilians, young Kurdish conscript Novin defected, fleeing his hometown of Qamishli in Syrian Kurdistan to Iraqi Kurdistan, where he ended up in the Diwan refugee camp.

Now, he proudly wears a crisp new uniform of a different kind – with the Kurdistan flag, with its yellow sun – sewn on the sleeve.

Novin, one of two new officers of the so-called “Syrian Peshmerga,” spoke to The Daily Star from the outskirts of one of the new training camps established by the president of semi-autonomous Iraqi Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani, in the northern Duhok region bordering Syria.

Barzani confirmed his government has provided training to Syrian Kurds to protect Kurdish areas in the event of a security vacuum in Syria. There have been conflicting reports, however, as to the number of recruits and whether any have yet entered Syria.

Novin, who between seven hours a day of military training also serves policing duties at the nearby Dormiz refugee camp, said he trains with around 700 others and claimed a number of his training colleagues had returned to Syria.

He said he is eager to get back to Syria as soon as possible “to defend and protect our Kurdish lands.”

“We volunteered with the Peshmerga to protect our people,” Novin said.

Just who they are protecting their people from is a complex matter that is threatening to destabilize all Syrian Kurdistan and perhaps even pit Kurd against Kurd in an increasingly factional civil war.

Syrian government forces have largely ceded control in a number of Kurdish cities in northeastern Syria in recent months. The largely bloodless abandonment of the oil-rich region has fueled suspicions that the Kurdish Democratic Union party (PYD), affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party – a 50,000-strong guerilla organization branded a terrorist group by the U.S. that has fought a decades-long war with Turkey on the southeast – is working with the regime to provoke Turkey.

Turkey has accused the Assad regime of arming PKK militants in Syria and, despite talks on Monday, has warned it will not tolerate an increased PKK presence in Syria.

Recently the PYD, with their affiliated civilian militia, the People’s Protection Committees (YPG), has further consolidated control of Kurdish territories, expelling Syrian government forces from the city of Malikieh last week.

YPG forces there overran intelligence headquarters, announcing they had “liberated” the city. Residents told The Daily Star the move was to prevent giving the Free Syrian Army a pretext to enter the city.

The PYD push has been at least partially prompted by a flare-up of tensions between mainly Arab Free Syrian Army fighters and PYD forces in Kurdish areas of Aleppo and at the ethnically mixed city of Ras al-Ain bordering Turkey. Clashes there have killed dozens in the last 10 days and continued Monday, when the local leader of the Higher Kurdish Council was reportedly up to 20 people killed.

Later Monday, Kurdish leaders announced a cease-fire between FSA rebels and Kurdish militia had come into force in Ras al-Ain to ease tension.

The Kurds, Syria’s largest minority, have suffered decades of repression and statelessness under the Baath party and hold historic enmity for the Assad regime. But they fear an Islamist-led Arab opposition would be no more sympathetic to Kurdish aspirations.

The oil-rich Eastern region from Hassakeh to Qamishli in the north has been the subject of decades of land dispute between Arabs and Kurds under Baathist land redistribution policies.

While support for the PYD varies across Kurdish territory, growing fears of an FSA onslaught and the absence of any alternative force appears to be strengthening support for the group in Kurdish areas.

At the remote border crossing of Faysh Khabour in northern Syria managed by YPG forces, Hassan, a refugee fleeing the fighting in Ras al-Ain to Iraqi Kurdistan told The Daily Star his opinion on the group had changed.

“I used to hate the PYD. I thought they were just another dictatorship. But they defended us at Seri Caniyeh [Ras al-Ain], and I am grateful,” he said.

In Qamishli, a strategic, ethnically mixed but majority Kurdish city on the far northeastern border with Turkey, tensions were mounting this week amid rumors of an imminent move by the FSA to move in to the area.

An opposition activist opposed to the PYD told The Daily Star hundreds of YPG fighters had been sent to Ras al-Ain from the city.

On Tuesday, the head of a Free Syrian Army battalion in Deir al-Zor, using the first name of “Mohannad” told The Daily Star, “we will take Qamishli this week,” but said he did not anticipate any clashes with Kurdish forces.

Leader of the Democratic Society Movement, affiliated with the PYD and head of the Higher Kurdish Council, Aldar Khalil told the The Daily Star that an operational plan in the works for “months” had been enacted and that the PYD was positioning itself to “defend Qamishli.”

“We don’t see the FSA as an enemy, but the people see them as a plan made by Turkey. We have an enemy of 50 years in the regime, but Turkey is our historic enemy,” he explained.

He said until now, there had been no need to call on the offer of intervention from PKK fighters – who he claimed were not in Syria. The Daily Star spoke to several PYD-affiliated militia who said they had fought with the PKK against Turkey in the Qandil mountain area of Iraq.

“For now the YPG can defend our cities, and we have not asked anyone to help ... but we don’t know what will happen in the future. When the enemies of the Kurds attack the Kurds, there are forces that will assist. But for now we don’t want any intervention from anyone.”

The move by the PYD to consolidate control of Kurdish territory is worrying others and inflaming inter-Kurdish tensions.

Disagreements within a coalition of Kurdish opposition parties, the Kurdish National Council, largely based in Iraqi Kurdistan, meant the group never joined the former Turkish-backed mainstream Syrian opposition bloc,www.ekurd.net the Syrian National Council. Some factions of the KNC accuse the PYD of working with the Assad regime, while the militarily stronger PYD has repeatedly refused to cooperate with the council.

But under sponsorship by Barzani, who is allied with Turkey, the group did forge a tenuous unity agreement with the PYD, setting up the Supreme Kurdish Council in Irbil in July.

But with Kurds on the ground being increasingly drawn in to the battlefront, the paper agreement looks increasingly redundant in the face of the superior military power of the PYD forces.

In an interview at a hotel in Irbil, the head of the Azadi Party and secretary-general of the KNC, Mustafa Jama’a, who was recently arrested and released by the PYD, accused the group of breaching the agreement to share control of Kurdish regions and repeated claims the group is armed by the Syrian regime.

He voiced fears that “Kurds will start killing Kurds.”

As yet, the KNC has not responded officially to the PYD-FSA clashes, but Jama’a said urgent agreement was needed with the FSA.

“It’s natural that the people are backing the PYD because they are scared now. We can’t do anything at the moment because we don’t have our own militia,” he said, adding that plans to join FSA forces with the Peshmerga-trained units had not eventuated after the PYD expelled the units.

Barzani, allied with Turkey, has denied the Syrian Peshmerga had entered Syria, while the PYD leadership also denied it had expelled the KRG-trained Kurds from Kurdish cities.

“With an agreement with the FSA we could defend the Kurdish cities from our mutual enemy, Assad.”

“We are ready to send 1,000 to 1,500 Syrian Peshmerga to Syria,” he said.

“But we know that if we do, we will be fighting the PYD. We will be Kurds killing Kurds.”

On his way to evening training, Syrian Peshmerga officer Novin’s sentiment made the political power play for Free Kurdistan seem remote.

“Assad is better than the PYD, and we hate them. But they are protecting our areas from the FSA. If the new Arab regime gives us our rights we have no problem. Otherwise, we will fight them as well.”

Copyright ©, respective author or news agency, Dailystar.com.lb

[Bahoz]

you can get me 1000 articles. you talk again like you know how reality is in WK. yes there are none PYD supporters! thats how democracy is! they can be whatever they want! and 70% people of WK people selected PYD over other parties so that say something to you! not all 70% of people like dictators! so your none sense argument about PYD being dictator is an excuse for you to show how you hate PYD and how anti pyd you are!at the end PYD is kurdish and we kurds who support and who doesnt support PYD we will be with what people choose back in WK, and if PYD is the leader then we go for PYD because at least they are kurds and respect life and humans and will not chop our heads by name of GOD like the animals in human body who comes from different arab countries!
can you tell me what are you? you say french! are you real french or you became french! because that make difference!

[Bahoz]

Free Syrian Army-linked groups suffer heavy losses
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Two armed groups said to be affiliated to the Free Syrian Army suffered heavy losses on Monday when clashes broke out between these groups and People’s Defense Units (YPG) forces in the West Kurdistan city of Serêkaniyê. The armed groups attacked the people in the city as they took to the streets for the rally organized by the Supreme Kurdish Council.

According to reports received, bodies of 14 dead members of these groups were delivered to their side by YPG forces, while at least 12 others are reported to have been killed in clashes which are reported to have lasted all day. Among those killed are reportedly three leaders of the El Sam armed group, Ali Aksud, Mecid Abdullah and Fair Haci Rahim.

The operation launched by the YPG in the area is reported to be still on.

YPG members Xalid Ömer Hamo (31), Salah Eyo Şexo (40) and Ehmed Sîno Qewas (29) and Kurdish security forces member Sileman Sino (28) lost their life in clashes.

Since hundreds of members of Free Syrian Army entered the city over Turkey on 8 November, the city has been bombed several times by forces of the Syrian regime, killing at least ten civilians and wounding around 70 others in the last one week. Around 50 houses were demolished in the attacks which forced eleven thousand people migrate from the region.

ANF / NEWS DESK

ANF NEWS AGENCY

[Bahoz]

Piling, this topic is to report Seri Kaniya news! if you want to discuss any topics open new debate topic ...

[Piling]

ree Syrian Army-linked groups suffer heavy losses

Gharba al-Sham and Jabhat Al-Nusra are not from FSA. ANF is not very well informed.

can you tell me what are you? you say french! are you real french or you became french! because that make difference!

Ji rojê û vir ve ye ku ez li dinyayê hatibûm û bihn kirim, ez ferensî me ; lê jiyana min jî ne behsa Serê kaniyê ye, biborîne ! . Eger tu dixwazî wê bizanî, bloga min binêre, adrêsa wê di profîla min de ye.

[Bahoz]

of course you will say they are not FSA!because you are in so much love with FSA. it is like FSA is better! FSA is dominant by islamists and arab chauvinists who they threatened us Kurds before that our time will come later when they are done with the regime! go back to Riyad Alasad talks. he is the leader of FSA and he is the one who threatened Kurds that when they are done with the regime they will take care of us later on. FSA is not better than the regime! both are kurdistan occupiers. both them can each each others I don't care about them! now you want make FSA innocent! shame and 100 shame! we all know FSA is turkey hand.. and little minority of FSA who doesn't have control right now are good people who actually are not islamists

[Piling]

In fact the more this war does last and if UN don't intervene, the more FSA will be infiltrated by Islamists and extremists, that is a fact. But FSA are not the one, there are only political opponent ssupported by USa, even if the former SNC was a failure. Moreover don't say PYD will never deal with them. They have already done it in Aleppo, so they could do it later.

And, I find always funny that PYD rather Baath to FSA if we remember that Baath expelled Öcalan in November 1998 and without this little 'betrayal', he will still live a golden life in Damascus.

And if you want to know, I don't care of FSA and of a united Syria. But can Western Kurds claim their independence ? that is the point. The better would be the same status than KRG, but with PYD in the area it would be difficult to build a stable Kurdish Region in Syria. There are not much democrats in their ranks and if we remember how it was not easy for the S. K to stop civil war and to become a almost-independent State it will less easy for W. Kurdistan.

[Bahoz]

Nuceya Lazgin from Seri Kaniya (new news):

The clashes resume between FSA and YPG again today!

[Bahoz]

Secret Canet - reporter Firat news agency renewed clashes between units protect YPG people and armed groups that claim to be free army.

The reporter said that shortly before the armed groups entered from inside Turkish territory to secret city Canet and began fighting with units to protect the people, noting that it used heavy weapons and tanks, which has moved from Turkish territory into city confidential Canet.

The entry of these armed groups from Turkey to support and sustain the armed groups that have received painful blows at the hands of the sons of the city of secret Canet two days ago and lost a lot of its armed elements.

ANF NEWS AGENCY

(Translation by google). same news on Ronahitv and pyd website.

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so now FSA using heavy weapons and tanks against YPG and they are coming from Turkey. FSA is playing the game! one side they say these groups don't belong to us and all suddenly they use heavy weapons! ..where did they get these weapons?

[Shere Medya]

Piling, I used to dislike the PYD too. But I have noticed that they aren't a bad group. They are actually very good people. They are there to defend the Kurds of West Kurdistan. The FSA is a proxy of Turkey and Qater, nothing more. And if the FSA (or their allies) keep attacking the PYD, for sure the FSA will lose. Barzani has already promised the Kurds of WK to enter WK with Kurdish Peshmergas if the PYD requests their help.

The PYD started giving Kurdish education to the Kurds of WK about a month ago which was illegal for decades. I praise the PYD and I hope it will live as long as it is there to defend the Kurds and give the Kurds hope

Assad in power = Discrimination of Kurds
FSA in power = Discrimination of Kurds
PYD in power = Freedom of West Kurdistan and freedom for the Kurds!

[Piling]

The former leader of Syrian National Council, the Kurdish Abdulbasit Seyda talked about last events :

http://www.rudaw.net/english/interview/5452.html