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Dêrik - Aljazeera's report on western kurdsitan

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Re: Dêrik - Aljazeera's report on western kurdsitan

PostAuthor: Anthea » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:16 am

It saddens me but I have to agree with everything you have written :((

Every single Kurds who I have met during my 30 + years of friendship with Kurds, have all dreamt of a FREE KURDISTAN

I strongly believe that when Ocalan and his friends got together and started their little discussion group, they had no idea that it would one day become so strong and powerful.

I further believe that the PKK originally, and up until Ocalan's arrest and subsequent torture, stood firmly for a FREE INDEPENDENT KURDISTAN

We all know that after Ocalan was arrested there was a great deal of conflict within the PKK and its splinter groups. And because of all the in-fighting, the only way that they could prevent the total collapse of the party was to strengthen their support for Ocalan.

Since the time of his arrest has Ocalan ever been totally free to communicate any wishes that he might have NO

We will probably NEVER know the real truth of how he has been treated, or what that treatment has done to him.

Ocalan MUST remain the figurehead of the party or there will be NO party.
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PostAuthor: Qonyeyi » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:54 pm

Piling wrote:
When was the last time Qandil ordered PYD to do anything?


PYD is just puppet of 'holy PKK' (as user Fire said in another post) and its God is Öcalan also.

And concerning the change of policy of PYD why they attacked other Kurdish demonstrations against Baath before, if they did not support Baath at this time, and if they did support ALWAYS rebellion ? Just look at KurdWatch.org reports since the beginning of events. They broke demonstrations in Kurdish areas while Army did not move.

But now they perhaps realize that the Baath is the loser and they begin to feel the fire of war near to heir asses … So suddenly they discover they are great patriots. Until the next change.

Concerning love of Qandil for KRG, remember that in 2003, PKK was against American operation and Öcalan said many times that he was AGAINST independency of S.K. (and Barzani and Talabani are traitors, etc). It was the period when he said that Atatürk was a great man and when Leyla Zana shout that Turks and Kurds are BROTHERS (in 2004 May), when she wrote to Green MP of UE parliament to stop 'to come for a show' by pretending talking about Human Rights in Turkey, and when she wrote to William Schultz (Amnesty International) because he stated against Turkey. It was the line "Brotherhood with Turkey'.

The funniest is that in the same time, Karayilan threatened KRG if they ally with Turkey (only Öcalan had this right). But Karayilan was in Qandil and worried for Turkish attacks in mountains while Öcalan did not care.

And in December 2004, some Kurdish personalities and intellectuals from Turkey and in exile launched a petition asking autonomy for N. Kurdistan. At first Leyla Zana signed it, but then Öcalan stated against that, and so she turned her words, saying that she did sign without reading it, and that Kurds in Turkey did NOT WANT ANY AUTONOMY NOR FEDERALISM and the people behind the claim were traitors, etc,. In 2004 AUTONOMY or FEDERALISM were EVIL.

Then some years later, they changed and suddenly AUTONOMY and FEDERALISM is that the PKK had ALWAYS asked in Turkey : the great solution everywhere.

So they could change each week of political lines, between Qandil, PKK, BDP, Öcalan, there are many occasion of contradictions. If W. Kurds trust them they have poor memories or they know nothing (like you) about the past of this party.


You basically ''answered'' my question with a series of lies. Well done!
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