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Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:46 am
Author: Peshmerga'x
Good evening my brothers and sisters,


recently I´ve read so much rubbish here and I just thought I must register me here lol.

According to this topic
http://rojbash.info/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 5ad541d7a7

many people are in the opinion, that beeing allied with israel and usa is a good way to expend our (only south-kurdistan) economy, politics and military.
Thats somehow true, but did you guys forget that they dont give a **** to our kurds in rest of kurdistan?
They´re just allied to us but dont care about the rest of us.
And this silly behaviour that, israel can destroy all rest of arab countries is such a funny statement, because we all know the whole world is behind this country.
We Kurds arent even completly free, maybe the 2nd part of us will be set free in some weeks (syria) and we are throwing those silly statements from us, that worries me.


And talking about palestinians people like they´re non-humans is ones biggest fail.


Im not a pro-arab.
Im Kurd.


good night

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:09 am
Author: diako_ber
I have a question for you: Are you a muslim?

About the palestinians, if they are not non-human, how should I classify them then?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:12 am
Author: diako_ber
btw, up till now, Israel has been one of the few countries that have actually helped us in the past. Did you know that the mossad helped the Kurds in the 70s?
What have the palestinians done for us, besides praising Saddam and becoming spies in Iraq for saddam.

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:13 am
Author: diako_ber
btw, welcome to this forum

ps. were are not anti-israeli. If you have a problem with that, I don't think your stay here will be pleasant

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:25 am
Author: Kurdistano
Welcome Peshmerga x

I agree on some parts but I have also some questions. Israel and US might only support a Kurdistan in South and West but do Arabs even Palestinians support a Kurdistan in any part of the world? Didnt some Palestinians fought side by side with Saddam against Kurds?


And who on this Forum said something like "Palestinians are not human"? I think most people on here agree that Israel needs to solve the Palestinian issue through dialogue and a two state solution would be the best. But it is a matter of fact that Israel is the only "ally" in the Near East. And I also dont get it why some other Near Eastern people are so upset with Kurds having good relationship with Israelis while they kept and still keep their mouth shut about Turkish-Israeli, Saudi_israeli relationship, though Turkey plays a" good friend of Palestinians".

Peshmerga X

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Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:36 am
Author: talsor
So we finally succeeded in getting you to register at roj bash :-D . Welcome heval and good to have you here .

Poeple are entitled to their views as you are heval and some anti Palestinian sentiment is understandable . Many Kurds fought along side the Palestinian in the past including Mama Risha and many members of Kurdistan communist party , but none of that meant anything . The day Saddam attacked Kurdistan after 1988 war with Iran Palestinian were celebrating the killing and displacement of 2-3 million Kurds and waving the Iraqi flag on the balconies and cars . The funny thing is that they still support that dictator who killed hundred of thousand of Kurds , So please do not open the old wounds

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:41 am
Author: max_b
talsor wrote:So we finally succeeded in getting you to register at roj bash :-D . Welcome heval and good to have you here .

Poeple are entitled to their views as you are heval and some anti Palestinian sentiment is understandable . Many Kurds fought along side the Palestinian in the past including Mama Risha and many members of Kurdistan communist party , but none of that meant anything . The day Saddam attacked Kurdistan after 1988 war with Iran Palestinian were celebrating the killing and displacement of 2-3 million Kurds and waving the Iraqi flag on the balconies and cars . The funny thing is that they still support that dictator who killed hundred of thousand of Kurds , So please do not open the old wounds




where can i learn more about this?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:48 am
Author: talsor
max_b wrote:
talsor wrote:So we finally succeeded in getting you to register at roj bash :-D . Welcome heval and good to have you here .

Poeple are entitled to their views as you are heval and some anti Palestinian sentiment is understandable . Many Kurds fought along side the Palestinian in the past including Mama Risha and many members of Kurdistan communist party , but none of that meant anything . The day Saddam attacked Kurdistan after 1988 war with Iran Palestinian were celebrating the killing and displacement of 2-3 million Kurds and waving the Iraqi flag on the balconies and cars . The funny thing is that they still support that dictator who killed hundred of thousand of Kurds , So please do not open the old wounds




where can i learn more about this?


can you try to write more than 5 words :-D learn more about what ?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:55 am
Author: max_b
but heval talsor, its all political, didnt KDP and PUK go to war which was backed by foreign parties?
wasnt kdp and pkk going through troublesome times, its all political its not as easy as ''were with them and there with them''

yeah its not really kurds concern to defend Palestine , expectaly when no other Muslim country or organisation is, but to completely turn your back on them is not good,
im sure the brothers and sisters in gaza are going thought the same hell as our people are going through so its not easy

i swear isreal sell wepons to tc, drones and all that right?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:59 am
Author: max_b
talsor wrote:
max_b wrote:
talsor wrote:So we finally succeeded in getting you to register at roj bash :-D . Welcome heval and good to have you here .

Poeple are entitled to their views as you are heval and some anti Palestinian sentiment is understandable . Many Kurds fought along side the Palestinian in the past including Mama Risha and many members of Kurdistan communist party , but none of that meant anything . The day Saddam attacked Kurdistan after 1988 war with Iran Palestinian were celebrating the killing and displacement of 2-3 million Kurds and waving the Iraqi flag on the balconies and cars . The funny thing is that they still support that dictator who killed hundred of thousand of Kurds , So please do not open the old wounds




where can i learn more about this?


can you try to write more than 5 words :-D learn more about what ?




i would like to learn more about the statement you made about Palestinians celebrating and waving iraqi flags over the misery of kurds

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:04 am
Author: Kurdistano
max_b wrote:but heval talsor, its all political, didnt KDP and PUK go to war which was backed by foreign parties?
wasnt kdp and pkk going through troublesome times, its all political its not as easy as ''were with them and there with them''

yeah its not really kurds concern to defend Palestine , expectaly when no other Muslim country or organisation is, but to completely turn your back on them is not good,
im sure the brothers and sisters in gaza are going thought the same hell as our people are going through so its not easy

i swear isreal sell wepons to tc, drones and all that right?



Israel simply does what most other countries do, making money by selling weapons. We Kurds and Israelis arent really of an ally that they would stop to sell Turkey weapons. We are simply friendly towards each other and tend to have economic and political agreements. And we cant give up this relationships because of Palestinians. The Palestinians are doing the same, having good relationship with Turkey which was well known to torture and kill Kurds in masses even if it has changed to slightly better still it is not even comparable to what Palestinians have (They have already full autonomy with their own National team in Sport competitions of which Kurds in North can only dream about for now).

No one is turning his back towards Palestinians. We simply say its not our fight, when even their own Arab brother dont care about them. Still we are not so ignorant about them and like I said most Kurds think Israel has to solve the Palestinian issue through dialogue.

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:06 am
Author: talsor
max_b wrote:i would like to learn more about the statement you made about Palestinians celebrating and waving iraqi flags over the misery of kurds


Your best bet will be Iraqi news agency archive1988 .
Does that surprise you ?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:09 am
Author: max_b
talsor wrote:
max_b wrote:i would like to learn more about the statement you made about Palestinians celebrating and waving iraqi flags over the misery of kurds


Your best bet will be Iraqi news agency archive1988 .
Does that surprise you ?




what that Palestinian celebrate on kurdish misery?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:09 am
Author: max_b
talsor wrote:
max_b wrote:i would like to learn more about the statement you made about Palestinians celebrating and waving iraqi flags over the misery of kurds


Your best bet will be Iraqi news agency archive1988 .
Does that surprise you ?




what that Palestinian celebrate on kurdish misery?

Re: Kurdistan - Politics

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:20 am
Author: talsor
max_b wrote:but heval talsor, its all political, didnt KDP and PUK go to war which was backed by foreign parties?
wasnt kdp and pkk going through troublesome times, its all political its not as easy as ''were with them and there with them''


Hevali hija u berkefti :-D , what does that have to do with anything we are discussing ?

max_b wrote:yeah its not really kurds concern to defend Palestine , expectaly when no other Muslim country or organisation is, but to completely turn your back on them is not good,
im sure the brothers and sisters in gaza are going thought the same hell as our people are going through so its not easy

i swear isreal sell wepons to tc, drones and all that right?


There are (if I'm not mistaken) 28 arab countries along with Iran and turkey supporting Palestinian , so what do you expect kurds to do ? Can you show me ONE statement from any Palestinian politician condemning what saddam did to kurds and recognizing kurdish right and self determination ? So please tell me why should kurds give a damn ?

Despite everything you must admit that no kurdish politician have ever issued a statement undermining the Palestinian cause nor did they ever hold guns against them or celebrate their misery . In fact there are several thousands of Palestinian refugee in Kurdistan right now enjoying peace and support .