Roj Bash Kurdistan

Kulka wrote:right, kaka gyan - i agree - but what can i do if these flags make me sick? i am strong devlish nationalist - its called "ultra"? - whatever, i just cant look at any ugly flag next to the most beutiful.

kurdimemin_diako wrote:Turkey , Iran or Surya ? witch one is next ?

kurdimemin_diako wrote:Turkey , Iran or Surya ? witch one is next ?

alan131210 wrote:i'd say next would be north Kurdistan after south is declared. its the only one NOW asking for autonomy and talks are under way and even turks are considering it , they dont like it but at least they are considering it.

Kulka wrote:Kaka gyan - why there is ataturk on your pic? - and what he is holding? karweshek?

Azamat wrote:Syria is no place for 'freedom' or 'democracy'. Not with the current regime, and not with the next. I don't have any trust in these 'democracy-demonstrations' at all, if that means the Muslim Brotherhood will seek to take control, just like in Egypt. It's no more than a sh*thole. When the Assad regime collapses and the country is left in a mess, without leadership, the KRG should simply annex Western Kurdistan to its territory. Just like they should with Kerkuk and Musil. It will be great benefit to the Kurdish population there.

New Corduene wrote:

Azamat wrote:Syria is no place for 'freedom' or 'democracy'. Not with the current regime, and not with the next. I don't have any trust in these 'democracy-demonstrations' at all, if that means the Muslim Brotherhood will seek to take control, just like in Egypt. It's no more than a sh*thole. When the Assad regime collapses and the country is left in a mess, without leadership, the KRG should simply annex Western Kurdistan to its territory. Just like they should with Kerkuk and Musil. It will be great benefit to the Kurdish population there.

I wish it was that easy! But the complex political situation in a very complex region makes such move completely impossible.

Azamat wrote:

New Corduene wrote:

Azamat wrote:Syria is no place for 'freedom' or 'democracy'. Not with the current regime, and not with the next. I don't have any trust in these 'democracy-demonstrations' at all, if that means the Muslim Brotherhood will seek to take control, just like in Egypt. It's no more than a sh*thole. When the Assad regime collapses and the country is left in a mess, without leadership, the KRG should simply annex Western Kurdistan to its territory. Just like they should with Kerkuk and Musil. It will be great benefit to the Kurdish population there.

I wish it was that easy! But the complex political situation in a very complex region makes such move completely impossible.

Well, the time in between the fall of the Assad regime and the following military junta may be the only opportunity for Western Kurdish independence in the 21st century.

The Kurds are, we can say, “obliged” to show their “Syrianness” to the public. What is happening in Syria is a diplomatic gesture by the Kurds to first gain their rights and also to be identified and recognized in the Syrian constitution as Kurds, for this is the first and most important step to take at this moment. then later the next step will come for them to ask for, let’s say, federalism, and from there; total independence. Demanding independence and calling for their own legitimate country now would be political suicide because they will become the scapegoats and the government easily will consider them “conspirators” and will crush them and turn them into the culprits behind the recent developments which will result in the Arab citizens turning against the Kurds as well. This happened in 2004 when the Kurds took to the streets demanding their rights but the result was that dozens of them were massacred, not a single Arabic organization, institution, political party…etc defended them. So the Kurds have learned their lesson and are not planning to make the same mistake twice. Now they play by the rules of “Unity and Diversity”, but the ultimate and unchangeable and rightful demand and goal still stands firm, which is total independence.

In fact it is the same case for all Kurds everywhere. Those in the south have reiterated that they want to remain as a part of a “United Federal Iraq”. The folks in Turkey say they only want more rights and maybe some sort of autonomy. In Iran, it is the same case. So, let them take it lightly, step by step moving forward, until ultimately reaching the goal they have so longed for; Independence for all Kurdistan.

Kulka wrote:the next would be any one that will try to occupy Kurdistan.