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Re: Kurdistan independent related articles

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:51 pm

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you need to be less negative , MIT will not just make up BS for no reason , its not a property agency , its a govt intelligence agency .


yes, but had MIT said it really? you wrote, MIT sayd trough a turkish newspaper. which newspaper? are they serious kak alan?
i serched via google but i dont find anything


it says which newspaper read it properly barez .


i wait and hope :) but i am carefully

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PostAuthor: diako_ber » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:02 pm

I really hope South Kurdistan will be independent this year. We have been suffering for decades now, the time has come to have an independent state. I am willing to fight for it.
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Re: Kurdistan independent related articles

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:41 pm

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hevalo27 wrote:i dont trust them. its come from turkish newspaper. whict newspaper?
they said kurdistan will make independence at newroz. nothing happened.
maybe its not true.


yeah it was suppose to happen Bazani said " we wanted to give the kurdish people great news in newroz but the timing it not right at the moment , but it will be soon" , so they were actually right :D , and it wasnt MIT who said this before .

you need to be less negative , MIT will not just make up BS for no reason , its not a property agency , its a govt intelligence agency .


its true :D :D

http://pukmedia.co/english/77/kurdistan ... te-in-iraq

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Re: Kurdistan independent related articles

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:44 am



Bro if MIT says it then it is but if a newspaper says it's diff , the turks were even right about barzani to declare a state on newroz but like he said it will be another time
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Re: Kurdistan independent related articles

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:28 pm

alan131210 wrote:here it is , so the pipelines are real and turkey is building it , one would think what the heck for :D

Genel Enerji Plans New Kurdistan-Turkey Pipeline, FT Reports

Genel Enerji AS plans to build a pipeline that will connect its fields in the Kurdish regions in northern Iraq to a port in Turkey on the Mediterranean, the Financial Times reported on Monday. The pipeline will have a capacity to export 400,000 barrels of oil a day, it said, citing Tony Hayward, the former head of BP Plc, who runs the investment company Vallares Plc that has announced an agreement to merge with Genel Energi.

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do you know when the building from Genel-Enerji Piplines become finished? 400 000 b/d is much oil. actually southkurdistan can just produce 170 000 b/d. i think if this pipline is built, then southkurdistan can declare easy independence.

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PostAuthor: kurdistanis1 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:18 am

I really hope we declare it this year and West Kurdistan also joins. I'm not liking all this turkish influence, but we can use them for now and see how things go from there. Beji Kurdistan.
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Mishan Jubouri shows full support for kurdish state

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:32 am

for the first time a "Sunni" Arab shows support for kurdish state


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Sumerian News / Baghdad

Iraqi politician said Mishan Jubouri, Thursday, that the Iraqi judiciary dropped all charges of "terrorism", which was directed against him, and expressed his support for the absolute separation of the Kurdistan region of Iraq, sharply criticized the Iraqi List, calling on deputies to withdraw and form a new coalition.

Jubouri said in an interview reported by Agence France-Presse, "I went myself to the Central Criminal Court voluntarily (without setting a date gone) where canceled all the pleadings and the charges filed against me, where she held more than one session and was able to defend myself, especially my jail sentence of fifteen years and canceled those provisions and another group of the charges made against to under Article IV of the terrorism. "

And between Jubouri that the court provided him with books to ensure that his movement and passing and the release of his property, and added, "and I will come back to the place of my stay in Baghdad early next month after the end of the Arab summit after regained home rapist by former Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani."

On another subject, confirmed Jubouri that "will support the Kurdish people and give him the right to establish their independent state in the three provinces and Bhdodh current through the separation of Iraq's Kurdistan is not Kurdistan from Iraq," adding that "Iraq could break away from the Kurdistan order to Nokia there are challenges with the countries of the region and then we work to resolve differences on the disputed areas by means of a civilized and peaceful. "

He Jubouri to be returning to Iraq, "aims to address the projects Acclimated and the division of Iraq and detect corrupt and looting of the capabilities of Iraq," he continued, "I think that the Iraqi List failed the voters and is now seeking to sell Kirkuk's Arabs and Arabs of the disputed areas for standing with them for cabinet positions and the protection of some of the leaders of files exist against them. "

Jubouri called "honorable Iraqi MPs and their leaders, especially from Kirkuk's Arabs to withdraw from the Iraqi List coalition and form a united and preserve their rights."

The Mishan Jubouri had left Iraq after 2007, which claims to block reconciliation and liberation and the work session the first and second as a member of the Iraqi parliament was always calls for reconciliation with Baathists and ran the fallopian Zora and opinion, which focused on the view activities by armed groups against U.S. forces and was known for his rejection of the establishment of federations in Iraq.

The Iraqi judiciary has issued sentences against Jubouri for 15 years on charges of corruption for his involvement amounts to seize feeding regiments to protect the oil installations of the Ministry of Defense since 2004 and through 2005, and established a fictitious company for the food.

And decided the Iraqi parliament to cancel the membership Jubouri in the first round of the Iraqi Council of Representatives in September of 2007 due to display his channel Zora founded in 2005 to scenes showing the military operations carried out by armed groups against U.S. and Iraqi forces and the glorification of former President Saddam Hussein.

After leaving Jubouri of Iraq in 2006, the foundations of (Al Rai), which continued in the approach channel canceled (Zora), supporting the armed groups in Iraq, with the support of the demonstrations in Iraq in the spring of 2011 to the then backed regime of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi before his fall, and accused the rebels Libyan employment . In December of last year 2011 the Syrian government decided closure of the channel permanently, to then come out Jubouri positions in support of the Government of Iraq, especially in its refusal to form regions, especially in Salah ad Din province through the establishment of new channel name (the people) supports both orientations the Iraqi government.

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Support Kurdish independence, please sign this petition! ‎

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:47 am

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March 28, 2012

In an effort to rally support for Kurdish independence, EKurd.net has created and posted a petition online. Following collecting enough signatures, EKurd.net will forward a copy of the petition to all cited addressees.

Time is very sensitive. Kurds must not remain silent.

Your support to your country is deeply appreciated.

We must act today, for tomorrow is too late!

To sign the petition, please click at the below link:

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Support Kurdish independence

TO: US CONGRESS, EU PARLIAMENT, UNITED NATIONS, NATO, NGO’S, ISRAELI KNESSET, PEACE AND HR ORGS, FOREIGN EMBASSIES AND DELEGATIONS IN IRAQI KURDISTAN, AND ALL DEMOCRATIC, PEACE-LOVING NATIONS OF THE WORLD.

All Relevant Parties,

By now, no one is left unacquainted with the extreme suffering plight of hapless and homeless Kurdish nation!

We are in the year 2012. The entire oppressed people in the entire globe are awakening to battle for their negated intrinsic rights. Colorful revolutions materialize one after another. Dictators collapse. Nations are emancipated. And new countries come into existence.

Since the establishment of artificial Iraq by colonial and imperial powers in 1923, Kurds have been coerced to co-exist averse their own will in a state in which its totally divergent people never shared any identical commonalities with one another. Albeit Iraqi continued to weather, but in reality, it never could experience true and permanent peace and stability. Incessant {civil} wars and perpetration of unparalleled genocides by consecutive brutal dictators claimed hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, but Iraq country could never be stabilized. Even in the wake of US troops’ withdrawal, the country continues to suffer from chaos, terrorism and perils of embryonic ethnic-sectarian civil wars. Every feasible alternative has already been exhausted.

Iraqi Kurdistan is already a state within a state and it requires is international backing and recognition. The United States and its allies assisted many oppressed smaller size nations of the world proclaim their independence. The aftermath was successful. The 6 million homeless Kurds in North of Iraq are no exceptions. Independence is our right!

A large number of people from different religious backgrounds throughout Iraq have resettled in the prosperous and secure Kurdistan Autonomous Region. They enjoy equal rights as their Kurdish fellow-citizens. Iraqi Minorities groups have decided to permanently reside in an independent Kurdistan, should Iraq ever be partitioned. Iraqi Kurdistan has proven itself!

Kurds are peace-seeking and peace-loving people in general. If they have resorted to armed struggle in certain countries, it is mainly because their legitimate rights are recanted.

Kurds are extending their hands for peace, co-existence, and cooperation to all sides. Since the liberation of Iraqi in 2003, Iraqi Kurdistan has become a model in the Entire Middle East in terms of its political stability, rapid economic growth and foreign investments. Iraqi Kurdistan continues to attract tens of thousands of tourists from all over the world. Compared to the war-ravaged Iraq, Iraqi Kurdistan is characterized by most as another Switzerland! Indeed, Kurdistan is one of the most attractive countries, wealthiest in the region and most tranquil in the world.

Time has come for the 6 million plus Kurds to secede from Iraq. It is time to renew and honor “ The Treaty of Sèvres (10 August 1920)”

Time has come to support Kurdish independence.

Stop repressing the Kurds! Stop silencing their voices!

Stop making decisions on their part! Let them be free and let them live in peace!

Let there be an independent Kurdish state for one of the most deserving people!

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Re: Kurdistan independent related articles

PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:52 pm

didnt serok barzani sayd, that independence of southkurdistan is coppled with activitis in syria? what does he meaned?
is krg involved in syria whit the usa? maybe they preparing to make autonomie for westkurdistan or annex the kurdish areas to krg.
or they hope a krg and usa- friendly government will replace the assad regime.

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Kurdistan vice president: Kurds have right to self-determine

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:34 pm

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29/03/2012

ERBIL, March 29 (AKnews) - Kurds have the right to self-determination, said the Kurdistan Region’s vice president, who was sworn in today, during a press conference following taking his oath of office.

Kosrat Rasul said “As the Kurdistan Region, it's our right, by benefiting from the current situations in the region, to determine ourselves," Kosrat Rasul told reporters when asked about Kurdish independence.

Rasul stressed his support for the Kurdistan Region’s reform strategies, which were announced over the past few days.

He also suggested to the Kurdistan Regional Government to give greater roles to the integrity commission as well as the financial control office to achieve reforms and fight corruption.

Rasul was voted vice president by a majority vote amid a boycott by the opposition forces, who hold 35 seats out of the 110-seat parliament.

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Is a Kurdish state viable?

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:39 am

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Remarks raised the Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani on the determination of the Kurdish leadership declaration of independence of the territory of Iraq mixed reactions, particularly concern large segments of Iraqis who believe that such a declaration and calls the other to form regions may establish a new stage could be cut apart Iraq on ethnic and sectarian lines.

It is widely believed that the preparations of the Kurdish leadership to declare the independence of Kurdistan from Iraq in its final stages, leadership Kurdish, which opened fire on the central government, accusing them of dominating the political decision, and take away the right of the region and intend to buy sophisticated weapons to kill the Kurdish dream of betting on the weakness of the center and limb because of differences between the parties the political process, and the inability to deter Baghdad, Kurdistan, in his quest to declare a Kurdish state. The state and the Kurdish secession from Iraq, as contained in a speech on the occasion of President of the Region Event Nowruz message was for all that the Kurdish leadership is the process of declaration of the State Kurdish Having completed all their requirements on the ground since the occupation of Iraq, and even now.

The clear signal received on the tongue of Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani, who said that the human, which was scheduled to Azvha of the Kurdish people has been postponed to a later date, but he stressed that it is coming inevitably, Kurdish people as stated by the Barzani has the right to dream of its country..

The question is: Is that the promised Kurdish state conditions available? Is it a viable state and to continue? The answer is simply that the Kurdish neighboring countries will stand against the country's fledgling; because they incite Kurds in Syria, Turkey and Iran to the dream of integration into the country, and this present time is not available on the ground because of the rejection of the position of these countries about the sympathy with this dream.

The state borders the states are not welcome Poladtha will face difficulties and dilemmas, as well as the Kurdish state the possible do not have access to the sea, which means they are under siege and fall within the pliers hostile states, especially that Baghdad will stand against this project after the widening dispute between Kurdistan and the Maliki government.
The Kurds are betting on the international umbrella in its quest for its project, which is considered prolonged came at a time of preoccupation with the great powers and priorities of the files submitted to the Kurdish problem, the status will not give all the importance placed in the circle of targeting.

Based on the foregoing, the Kurdish leadership is betting on attracting and co-opt the existing political forces, especially the Supreme Council of Iraq and to meet the Maliki government is not in support of their demands, but to weaken the central government and put it in a critical paralyze the movement in the face of the Kurdish state project. Theloahaa and form an alliance with Iraq and the Supreme Council and some politicians and tribal leaders to withdraw the confidence of the Maliki government and re-formation of new political alliances to ensure the continuation of its project to establish a Kurdish state, which claims that it will be in the framework of a unified Iraq.

The Kurdish leadership Is unable to proceed with its project of and avoid the veto local, regional and Arab??

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Barzani has started Kurdish state talks with high US officia

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:11 am

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According to an official who is accompanying Barzani's delegation , talks with high US officials has begun on the preparations for a kurdish state , and its expected the results are going to be positive . the official has also announced that these talks has caused great concerns for Turkey .

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PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:33 pm

the official has also announced that these talks has caused great concerns for Turkey .


:lol: :lol: i love such news.
if turkey howls, then this is enough success for me

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US consulate in Erbil to broaden services

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:11 am

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05/04/2012

Washington, USA (KRP) - Today the President of the Kurdistan Region of Iraq Masoud Barzani was officially received by President Obama and Vice President Biden at the White House.

During their talks, both sides emphasized the necessity of a prolonged and deepened relationship between the United States and the Kurdistan Region within the framework of a democratic, pluralistic and federal Iraq.

The leaders also discussed practical steps towards the continued strengthening of the relationship through maintaining high level meetings and discussions.

Furthermore it was agreed that the United States would broaden the services provided by its consulate in Erbil.

The President and Vice President of the United States reaffirmed their continued commitment to the historic relationship with the people and government of the Kurdistan Region, and their support for an Iraq that adheres to its constitution.

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Re: Kurdistan independent related articles

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:19 am

It was agreed that the US would broaden the services provided by its consulate in Erbil.


The exact nature of this is currently unclear , but i wonder what they might be !!! i posted an article from http://www.foreignpolicy.com yesterday i would like to highlight 2 important suggestions from the author of the article:

*Allow Visas to be Issued From Erbil
*Let U.S. Planes Fly to Kurdistan


if these services begin we can say that kurdistan has stepped up its independence about more than 60% , but unfortunately supporting a kurdish state was postponed by Obama's administration maybe it might change with the republicans coming to power , as some of them have vast shares in some of kurdistan businesses .

but i think we should not wait for them to support us but instead declare it and then the pressure will mount for them to support it as we all know no one will come and say here is your kurdish state we have to announce it and then we wait for Americans to come and recognize it specially if we do a referendum then they prob cant turn down the votes of 6 million people ... , but what i dont get here is the news from CIA boss urging turkey to accept a kurdish state ( it was also published by Washington post and no US official denied the news) , something is defiantly going on our President must be clear with the kurdish people .

In all case scenarios once we declare it the worst thing is US using veto against it which i doubt if they do as we are no Palestine , then we will be independent without a seat in UN like Cezch republic is (Russian veto prevented them from a UN membership).

Also if a kurdish state "Republic of Mahabad" in 1946 without a strong army , 20+ consulates , 40+ oil companies and producing 200,000 oil bpd to rise to 1 million bpd in 2014 can last 11 months , i am sure a kurdish state in KRG in 2012 with these advantages can last for ever .

Lastly we will survive closed borders by iran and turkey as we did from 1991-2003 bcos of UN sanctions on iraq , it was actually turkey iran and iraq , but bcos kurds live on the other side of the borders of iran and turkey , the sanction was not too effective on kurdistan than it was on Arab iraq but this time it wont be a UN sanction but mainly turkey and iran , but syria is going to be a friendly state towards KRG.

Bangladesh is a recognized country and KRG is not ?? LoL.

but i think the main reason for delaying it is to wait till oil production reaches 1 million bpd , that way a kurdish state can stand strong and wealthy , and KRG's oil minister told a media conference in US that they are building a new pipeline to bypass the Ceyhan-Turkey which is under iraq's control , that way kurdistan will have its own independent oil export route , as currently kurdistan oil is sold via trucks to Afghanistan.
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