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if you have mentioned the Turkish Daily news http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr
has added some Polls to their site...one of them asked ppl

Which is Turkey�s best friend?
Britain 28.6%
European Union 20.6%
No one but Turks 16.7%
United States 10.6%
Pakistan 8.1%
No friends 7.6%
Islamic world 4.9%
Germany 2.1%
Arab world 0.7%

the funny thing is 16% of them belive they have no better friend than themself... and 7.6% of them belive Turkey has no no firend...[even Turks themself are not friend of turkey]

the writer of this poill is so stupid , those two choices which I have colored with Red , should had been put in one choice...actualy , 7.6% + 16.7% = 24.3%.
means 24.3% of the turks belive they have no friends , if the poll had been written well , you could see that sentence [turks have no friend] in second place after brtian whic is 28%.

whatever they are so ungratefull to usa ...after all those crimes that usa did to Kurd just for turkey...Turks dont see them as friend.
stupid americas...for whom they are selling themself for ?...

some question that I hope those who know tell me ...
1- why this turkish site hadnt have Israel as one of the choices?
as far as I kponow israel is the biggest army suprter of turkey.
doenst mean that even Israel is the best friend of turks, turks still hate them and dont even want to mention israel as their friend ?

2- Why Britain been chosen as best friend of turks ? what britain has done for turkey ?
should we kurds worry that Britain is a Dear friend of turks ?

please guide me , I need your idea and your information.

1) I guess nobody wants to be associated with Israel. I see a lot of turks swearing at Israel and warning southern kurds not to have friendship with the jews but at the same time ignoring that it is their country who is Israel's biggest friend in the Middle East.

2) Perhaps it has to do with the extradiction of former ernk-leader Kani Yilmaz to Germany.

Who is the best friend of the kurds?

Mountains: 80%

abdur wrote:Perhaps it has to do with the extradiction of former ernk-leader Kani Yilmaz to Germany.

would you plesase explain more ... ? I cant undrestand

tomjez wrote:Who is the best friend of the kurds?

Mountains: 80%

lool cute..i love the mountians

sorgul wrote:

tomjez wrote:Who is the best friend of the kurds?

Mountains: 80%

lool cute..i love the mountians

oiiiiiiiii i knowww .. xude in the house i stayed at in duhok i could just walk up to the mountain .. i kept teling my cousins lets go to the mountains they were like wiiiiiiiiiii .. acting like i said something wrong they're like sharma

i repeat my questin , shouldnt we kurds worry that turkish ppl see Britain as their best friend ?

you know i have always been suspeciours to britain , I see them as one of those who has Direct hand in kurdish blood .

just for example , BBC brodcasts program to more than 60 or 100 languages...but you cant see Kurdish among them.

they even have diffrent sections for diffrent ACCENTS of Farsi.
[well I am not sure how much BBC reflects British government's intrests.but anyway...]

from the old times it been belived that Iranian clerks are pupets of britain..you know in iran american news sites are blcoked but not british news sites !!! not biritish radios in persian...

I am gonna think this birtian is something against the future of my nation...what do you think ?

Dyaoko,i agree with you.England don't like Kurds much.When Europe is so friendly to Kurds,England didn't want to Kurds as refugees.And there is not a lot of Kurds in England but Kurds can have good conditions in England.Anyway,here in Turkey,ppl see English ppl as "long leg" too cunning,self-seeker and colonist ppl.Especially England have strange place in their minds for lots of ppl personally they are saying that but they need England's alliance because England is a powerful country and super power like America.For England,the world is too small.And Turks support America too but after 2. Gulf War and America's help to Kurds and the hate between Sunnis and America and nowadays Turks nearly hate Jews(When public conversations you can see but only in public conversations,they don't show this problem too much and politic parties still support America whatever they say changes nothing).I mean Turks' support to America is decreasing but allways Turks have relationship with countries America,england etc.Don't make it a problem,Dyaoko.Turkey is too dependent to big countries.You can see at politics and lifestyle amybe they are not agree about lots of things but when Turks say England "too selfish ppl(lots of things)",they are supporting them too,when Turkey have problems America before 2. Gulf war start,nobody expect this problems.After Ottoman Empire's powerful days were finished,Turks are allways ally of one of powerful countries that is why they choose England they think England is best choice for them now.Lots of times,They were making alliance with England against Russia as they made alliance with America against Soviet Union,they made aliance with Germany against colonist countries at 1. WW,their history full of them,there are just a few example.Maybe Turks are friendly to England because of their help for Turkey to enter E.U.But there is one turkish proverb "Denize düşen yılana sarılır"(If you fall into water,you will hold snake").This is not a big alliance as they say.This is more likely a politic way to save today.They are trying to take EU's and America's support and using it for develop west of the Turkey.Maybe it looks like an alliance which is not too profitable for Turks but lots of times Ottoman saved itself by the way.But they say England has no friend,only has benefits.(Because one English queen said they are saying that)

dyaoko wrote:

abdur wrote:Perhaps it has to do with the extradiction of former ernk-leader Kani Yilmaz to Germany.

would you plesase explain more ... ? I cant undrestand

Kani Yilmaz was the pkk's european representative (ernk) and he was invited to England by some parliament members in 1994, suddenly the english police arrested him and he stayed in prison for a couple of years. Later was sent to Germany where the pkk was already a banned party. Eventually the Germans let him go.

And recently he has left the PKK because he was disagree with this party and fled in the same time than Mizgîn S,en. He has tried to make a new party, very leftist, but now it does'nt seem have a great success. We don't heard a lot about that.

abdur wrote:

dyaoko wrote:

abdur wrote:Perhaps it has to do with the extradiction of former ernk-leader Kani Yilmaz to Germany.

would you plesase explain more ... ? I cant undrestand

Kani Yilmaz was the pkk's european representative (ernk) and he was invited to England by some parliament members in 1994, suddenly the english police arrested him and he stayed in prison for a couple of years. Later was sent to Germany where the pkk was already a banned party. Eventually the Germans let him go.

Great information for us.I think it is all about oil.As we know the map before Second Gulf War was shaped by ENGLAND and France,etc..And i think they were using Arab's oil and control Turkey by this way.Because i heard "the map made by England and France countries with Ottoman Empire to control oil finally has changed." at news.It wasn't news' main topic but it can be the explanation why England behave Kurds badly.Behind doors maybe they were dealing with Turkey, i don't know.But this is sure they behave us badly for Turkey,Iraq..It is allways a not clearly explained topic are they using us or our friend.But at least PKK did too much for showing our problems at all costs.I said having a half democratic country,Turkey(cigarette) is not too good for lots of us.But Turkey's strategic position is really important so nobody didn't let the other to make it it's own.They tried to pay Turkey after WW1 but they didn't succeed.And Turkey much more big problem for us.If there were countries like Iran and Iraq we take our country for long.
But now they are America's ally in Iraq. Maybe this sons of Britania will bury me,you ,maybe America and all others.

abdur wrote:Kani Yilmaz was the pkk's european representative (ernk) and he was invited to England by some parliament members in 1994, suddenly the english police arrested him and he stayed in prison for a couple of years. Later was sent to Germany where the pkk was already a banned party. Eventually the Germans let him go.

how poor we kurds are ... how England dared to do such a Evil job ?
it is like Iranians Kidnapping American Diplomats in 4th Nov in Tehran [at the time of the islamic revolution]

but that iranians kidnaping diplomats has made a lot of problems for iran...
we kurds are too poor , even VERY VERY SMALL TINY terrorist groups in the world has nominees ...even Taliban [Taliban has a nominee in Kabul and they talk to the world throught that nominee...and he is SAFE in his house]....but a nation like kurds ...sigh..
and nobody gives a shit ! I myself didnt even know that this had happend.


abdur , thanks for information .

Lovetobewithfriends wrote:Dyaoko,i agree with you.England don't like Kurds much.When Europe is so friendly to Kurds,England didn't want to Kurds as refugees.And there is not a lot of Kurds in England but Kurds can have good conditions in England.Anyway,here in Turkey,ppl see English ppl as "long leg" too cunning,self-seeker and colonist ppl.Especially England have strange place in their minds for lots of ppl personally they are saying that but they need England's alliance because England is a powerful country and super power like America.For England,the world is too small.And Turks support America too but after 2. Gulf War and America's help to Kurds and the hate between Sunnis and America and nowadays Turks nearly hate Jews(When public conversations you can see but only in public conversations,they don't show this problem too much and politic parties still support America whatever they say changes nothing).I mean Turks' support to America is decreasing but allways Turks have relationship with countries America,england etc.Don't make it a problem,Dyaoko.Turkey is too dependent to big countries.You can see at politics and lifestyle amybe they are not agree about lots of things but when Turks say England "too selfish ppl(lots of things)",they are supporting them too,when Turkey have problems America before 2. Gulf war start,nobody expect this problems.After Ottoman Empire's powerful days were finished,Turks are allways ally of one of powerful countries that is why they choose England they think England is best choice for them now.Lots of times,They were making alliance with England against Russia as they made alliance with America against Soviet Union,they made aliance with Germany against colonist countries at 1. WW,their history full of them,there are just a few example.Maybe Turks are friendly to England because of their help for Turkey to enter E.U.But there is one turkish proverb "Denize düşen yılana sarılır"(If you fall into water,you will hold snake").This is not a big alliance as they say.This is more likely a politic way to save today.They are trying to take EU's and America's support and using it for develop west of the Turkey.Maybe it looks like an alliance which is not too profitable for Turks but lots of times Ottoman saved itself by the way.But they say England has no friend,only has benefits.(Because one English queen said they are saying that)

OMG ... can u have some space between sentences .. or break it down to pargraphs coz it gave me a headache ..

ChiChalok wrote:

Lovetobewithfriends wrote:Dyaoko,i agree with you.England don't like Kurds much.When Europe is so friendly to Kurds,England didn't want to Kurds as refugees.And there is not a lot of Kurds in England but Kurds can have good conditions in England.Anyway,here in Turkey,ppl see English ppl as "long leg" too cunning,self-seeker and colonist ppl.Especially England have strange place in their minds for lots of ppl personally they are saying that but they need England's alliance because England is a powerful country and super power like America.For England,the world is too small.And Turks support America too but after 2. Gulf War and America's help to Kurds and the hate between Sunnis and America and nowadays Turks nearly hate Jews(When public conversations you can see but only in public conversations,they don't show this problem too much and politic parties still support America whatever they say changes nothing).I mean Turks' support to America is decreasing but allways Turks have relationship with countries America,england etc.Don't make it a problem,Dyaoko.Turkey is too dependent to big countries.You can see at politics and lifestyle amybe they are not agree about lots of things but when Turks say England "too selfish ppl(lots of things)",they are supporting them too,when Turkey have problems America before 2. Gulf war start,nobody expect this problems.After Ottoman Empire's powerful days were finished,Turks are allways ally of one of powerful countries that is why they choose England they think England is best choice for them now.Lots of times,They were making alliance with England against Russia as they made alliance with America against Soviet Union,they made aliance with Germany against colonist countries at 1. WW,their history full of them,there are just a few example.Maybe Turks are friendly to England because of their help for Turkey to enter E.U.But there is one turkish proverb "Denize düşen yılana sarılır"(If you fall into water,you will hold snake").This is not a big alliance as they say.This is more likely a politic way to save today.They are trying to take EU's and America's support and using it for develop west of the Turkey.Maybe it looks like an alliance which is not too profitable for Turks but lots of times Ottoman saved itself by the way.But they say England has no friend,only has benefits.(Because one English queen said they are saying that)

OMG ... can u have some space between sentences .. or break it down to pargraphs coz it gave me a headache ..

Sorry
Then i promies i do

lol@ chichalook