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Tens of thousands of ISIS members are re-radicalizing

PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:47 pm

There will be blood up to your knees:
Defiant jihadi bride refugees vow revenge as last outpost of their Syrian 'caliphate' faces defeat by Kurdish forces amid fears there are THOUSANDS of brainwashed ISIS followers in the camps, including camps containing Yazidis

    US-backed forces have forced the militants into the last scrap of land as they are pushed out of the 'caliphate'

    The coalition forces have been hoping that each day would be the last for ISIS but doubts have now emerged

    12,000 people from Baghouz arrived in one camp for non-combatants in northern Syria in the past 48 hours

    Head of US Central Command, warned many of those evacuating are 'unrepentant, unbroken and radicalised'
Diehard jihadists swelling Syrian refugee camps have vowed revenge as the last remaining ISIS holdout in Syria faced imminent collapse.

One veiled woman, feared to be among thousands of unrepentant fanatics who have fled Baghouz and surrendered to US-backed Kurdish forces, chillingly warned: 'We will seek vengeance, there will be blood up to your knees.

'We have left, but there will be new conquests in the future.'

The civilians have continued to stream out of the ragged tent encampment the village of Baghouz since December.

The US-backed Kurdish coalition forces thought only a few families remained in the enclave - but they now fear they may have severely underestimated the number of brainwashed ISIS followers left inside.

12,000 people from Baghouz arrived in one camp for non-combatants in northern Syria in the past 48 hours.

As they came out of their bastion in eastern Syria, many are unrepentant and told media bloody vengeance against the enemies of ISIS.

At an outpost for US-backed forces outside the village, 10 women stood in front of journalists, pointing their index fingers to the sky and shouted: 'The Islamic State is here to stay!'

The gesture is used by IS supporters to proclaim the oneness of God.

Many of the women leaving the bastion told AFP they wanted to raise their children using ISIS ideology.

One 60-year-woman, who did not want to be named, said that ISIS will continue because the boys under the terror group's rule have been trained to fight from a young age.

She said: 'The caliphate will not end, because it has been ingrained in the hearts and brains of the newborns and the little ones.'

Some of the civilians threw rocks at the cameras of those trying to film them, while one screamed at a photographer and calls him a pig.

Nearby, a bearded man with a leg wound cursed the coalition, whose warplanes have pummelled the last jihadist redoubt.

"I only surrendered because of my injury," he says. "I have been with IS since the beginning.

Despite US-backed Kurdish fighters hopes that the final day has come for the ISIS 'caliphate', - its last tiny sliver of land just won't seem to empty.

'When we began the operation we knew there would be civilians, but not in such a big number,' Adnan Afrin, a spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces, said Thursday.

In recent days thousands more men and women - including those who once flocked to join IS from across the globe - left the IS pocket, upending assumptions that only a few families remained holed up in Baghouz and those who refused to leave or surrender were choosing to die there.

'They're coming from underground... they're never-ending,' said one SDF official.

The International Rescue Committee on Friday said as many as 12,000 people from Baghouz have arrived in one camp for non-combatants in northeast Syria over the past 48 hours, including some 6,000 people on Thursday alone.

The women trucked out of the bastion this week gave drastically varying figures on the holdout families that remain in the bombed-out and besieged jihadist bastion.

'There's still more,' said Umm Aboud from the northern Syrian city of Al-Bab.

'You see how many people have come out in the past few days, there's that many still inside,' said the mother of four, her bright green eyes peering through a black veil.

More than 55,000 civilians have arrived in the Kurdish-run Al-Hol camp since December, according to the International Rescue Committee.

'The IRC and other agencies are doing all they can do help the new arrivals but Al-Hol camp is now at breaking point,' the organisation said Friday.

'No one could have guessed that such a large number of women and children were still living in Baghouz.'

Black-clad women trucked out of Baghouz in the past few days have said they were living crammed together in trenches, tents and cars near.

'There are thousands of families leaving... but there were thousands and thousands of families there, even I was surprised,' 35-year-old Umm Alaa, from the Iraqi town of Heet, said Wednesday after fleeing.

The mother of 10 said she lost a child last week due to hunger as the situation grew increasingly desperate.

Footage obtained from the Free Burma Rangers, a Christian aid group run by a former US special forces operative, showed hundreds of people still remained in the riverside camp.

In the images said to have been taken Thursday, women draped in black are seen walking through the came around overturned cars and scraps of twisted metal which lay on the ground.

The aid group has come in close proximity to the camp in recent days and its head, David Eubank, said some two thousand people could remain inside.

Analyst Mutlu Civiroglu, on the ground in eastern Syria, said that IS was purposefully trying to conceal its numbers.

They have regularly been 'releasing certain numbers of people, including fighters, in controlled amounts' in an attempt to buy time, he said.

'If they really wanted to surrender, they would have... and if they wanted to fight again, they could have,' he added.

The delay was 'a deliberate effort, maybe to prepare for something else... what that is though is unclear'.

ISIS created a proto-state across large parts of Syria and Iraq in 2014, ruling millions of people, but has since lost all of it except a tiny patch in Baghouz by the Euphrates River.

Some of the last IS fighters and their families were cornered on Friday on the water's edge.

They were caught between advancing Kurdish forces and Syrian regime fighters across the river.

But General Joseph Votel, head of the US Central Command, warned today that many of those being evacuated from the area are 'unrepentant, unbroken and radicalised'.

He told Congress the fight against ISIS was 'far from over', and stressed the need to 'maintain a vigilant offensive against this now widely dispersed and disaggregated organisation'.

General Joseph Votel, who oversees US operations in the Middle East, said ISIS fighters had already dispersed across Iraq and Syria and remained radicalised.

He told the House Armed Services congressional committee: 'Reduction of the physical caliphate is a monumental military accomplishment but the fight against Isis and violent extremism is far from over.

'What we are seeing now is not the surrender of ISIS as an organisation but a calculated decision to preserve the safety of their families and the preservation of their capabilities by taking their chances in camps for internally displaced persons and going to ground in remote areas and waiting for the right time to resurge.

He added: 'We will need to maintain a vigilant offensive against this now widely dispersed and disaggregated organisation that includes leaders, fighters, facilitators, resources and toxic ideology.

'The ISIS population being evacuated from the remaining vestiges of the caliphate largely remains unrepentant, unbroken and radicalised.'

As the so-called caliphate crumbles, many Western countries have struggled to decide what to do with its citizens returning from the fighting.

Donald Trump urged European countries to take back their suspected fighters and try them in their own countries, threatening via Twitter that US-backed forces in Syria would release the militants into Europe.

The Kurds also want foreign nations to repatriate their citizens and jail them in their lands, but are willing to make compromises if the international community will provide the funding and security for new prisons.

Last month Iraq announced a group of 13 French citizens accused of fighting for ISIS are to be tried in the country rather than face charges in their home country.

And the Kurdish government in Syria said if Britain and other European countries will not take back their jihadi citizens, then international tribunals, similar to the Nuremberg trials used to convict Nazi's after the Second World War, could be set up to deal with the problem.

Link to Article - Photos:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... itory.html

HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of rubbish in black sacks X(

Strikes me that these bags of rubbish are receiving much more attention and support than they deserve and definitely a lot more than they showed to their innocent victims

Time for punishment - remove their black sacks :ymdevil:
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:54 pm

Displaced people camps
close to prevent extremism


In a bid to prevent Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) camps from becoming “incubators” of extremism, the northern Saladin province of Iraq will take steps to close the camps, the governor said on Monday - amid reports displaced Iraqis are being forcibly returned to their homes despite dangers on their lives

The governor of the northern province Saladin says he will take steps to close displaced people camps to prevent them from becoming “incubators of extremism” amidst reports displaced Iraqis are being forcibly returned to their homes.

Addressed to Iraqi army officials and tribal leaders on Monday, Saladin Governor Ammar Jabr Khalil released a statement saying the internally displaced persons (IDP) camp threatened peace in the area.

“Ammar Jabr Khalil, the governor of Saladin, affirmed his intent to finalize procedures of closing IDP camps and secure the return of the residents to their areas through an agreement with the government and tribes to prevent these camps from becoming incubators of extremism and threatening social peace,” the statement from the governor’s Facebook page read.

In the entire Saladin province, there are 105,390 IDPs, Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC) spokesman Tom Peyre-Costa told Rudaw English on Tuesday. According to UN statistics, there are more than 10,000 IDPs in several camps near Tikrit - the capital of the Saladin province.

There has to be “social reconciliation” for families with Islamic State (ISIS) ties, and tribal leaders and prominent individuals need to step in to resolve the “social case,” according to the governor.

“Daesh families remaining outside the social fabric don’t serve stability, but rather pave the road for overlapping breaches [of security],” read the statement, using the Arabic acronym for ISIS.

The governor did not specify several details in the statement however, including what “social reconciliation” would entail, and where the IDPs will go if the camps are closed.

Deputy governor of Saladin Saad Dhahir Qaisi was not available to comment on the details of the province’s plan to close IDP camps, nor was head of the Saladin provincial council Ahmed al-Karim when Rudaw English contacted them on Tuesday.

In an interview with Rudaw English in May, Qaisi said there is a financial incentive for keeping IDPs in camps.

“The state spends on these camps. There are parties and employees taking advantage of that,” he said. “They don’t want the camp to be gone.”

He also suggested using psychologists and Islamic education to re-integrate ISIS families into society.

The fears of the governor, namely of IDP camps being a hotbed for renewed extremist thoughts, were also espoused by an aide to Iraq’s national security adviser at the end of August. 2

"Daesh has ended, but the extremists’ thoughts remain, thoughts that could lead to terrorism, through which Daesh could resurge,” Ali Nassir Binyan, aide to Faleh Fayadh, Iraqi national security adviser, told Rudaw. “We believe that some of these thoughts persist in the IDP camps.”

According to Iraq’s Ministry of Migration and Displaced, they will soon close the al-Qadisyah compound in the Saladin province hosting IDPs, as only 39 families remain. The ministry said on August 28 that 864 IDPs at the compound had gone back to their areas in the Nineveh province.

While the ministry does claim that all returnees go back voluntarily, rights groups have recorded a host of examples of IDPs being forced to return to their homes despite a lack of services and community threats against returnees.

Some 2,000 IDPs have been expelled from camps in Nineveh to their areas of origin in Saladin, Kirkuk, and Anbar, according to the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

There is further pressure on IDPs to return due to politics. As per a recent amendment of Iraq’s provincial election law, individuals can only vote in the upcoming provincial elections if they live in their areas of origin.

Some IDPs have also returned home to the Mosul area this year, only to later return to camps in the Kurdistan Region, citing poor security and living conditions in their home areas.

https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/10092019
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PostAuthor: Anthea » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:45 am

Tens of thousands of ISIS
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Tens of thousands of supporters of the Islamic State, many of them women and children, are re-radicalizing inside vast Kurdish-run prison camps with inadequate security and almost no infrastructure or provisions

In a shocking report published last week, The Washington Post exposed the dire conditions at the al-Hawl prison camp in northern Syria, which the paper described as “a cauldron of radicalization” and “an academy” for captured supporters of the Islamic State (known also as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS).

Over 70,000 people are being held at the prison camp, of which 20,000 are believed to be women and 50,000 are children. Male members of the Islamic State are being held separately. Most of the 70,000 inmates in al-Hawl are Syrian and Iraqi citizens.

An estimated 10,000 consist of Africans, Asians, Europeans and Arabs from countries other than Syria and Iraq. They are held in a separate annex of the prison camp and are believed to be the most radical of all the inmates.

The inmates of the al-Hawl prison camp are guarded and provided for by no more than 400 Kurdish fighters of the Western-supported Syrian Democratic Forces, according to The Post. The paper cited fourteen people, including inmates, Kurdish officials and aid workers, who claimed that the 400 guards are unable to enter the camp or provide even a semblance of law and order.

Instead, law and order inside the prison is maintained by the women, who remain fully committed to the principles of the Islamic State, said the paper. They continue to follow the strict rules of the Islamic State and impose brutal punishment on those women and children who do not follow these rules.

Women who speak to people from outside the prison camp, including journalists and lawyers, are later beaten and tortured; some have even been executed as a form of punishment, said The Post. Many of the Kurdish guards have also been attacked by the women and have been stabbed with makeshift weapons or had their arms and legs broken by them.

Islamic State paraphernalia, including black flags and pro-ISIS banners, are regularly confiscated from inmates. The latter have even managed to smuggle video messages to the outside world. In one such video message, a group of veiled al-Hawl inmates are seen holding the banner of the Islamic State and urging the group’s male members to “light the fire of jihad and free us [women] from these prisons”.

The women in the video call themselves as “women of the mujahedeen” and issue a warning against “the enemies of Allah”: “you think you have imprisoned us in your rotten camp. But we are a ticking bomb. Just you wait and see”, they say. Responding to these messages, a Kurdish intelligence official told The Post that the Syrian Democratic Forces could “contain the women, but we can’t control their ideology”.

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