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Did Tikrit/Mosul say free me destroy homes steal property

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Mar 24, 2015 12:50 pm

SERIOUS QUESTION:

Did Tikrit ask Iraqi to free them and destroy their homes?

Did the Sunni residents of the Sunni town of Tikrit want the Iraqi army and Militia to enter their Sunni town to 'FREE' the Sunni population from the control/protection of the Sunni Islamic Front?

Are the Sunni residents of the Sunni town of Tikrit happy that the Iraqi army and Militia have entered their Sunni town and invaded/liberated it destroying many of the Sunni residents homes and businesses?

We all know that Tikrit is a Sunni town whose many inhabitants were related to Saddam Hussain - in light of all the horrors the Shia Iraqi government has cruelly meted out to the Sunni population of Iraq over recent years - does anyone really believe that the Sunni residents of the Sunni town of Tikrit really wish to be governed by the murderous Shia Iraqi regime that has caused far more hardship and terror to the Sunni peoples throughout Iraq than the Islamic State?

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Re: Did Tikrit ask Iraqi to free them and destroy their home

PostAuthor: Anthea » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:38 pm

I will answer my own question:

NO
Sunnis suspect the Shi'ite militias and the army and police of deliberately torching their homes.

Looting has also been a problem. Shi'ite paramilitary fighters in pickup trucks raced through the city carrying goods that appeared to have been looted from homes and government offices.

The vehicles were crammed with refrigerators, air conditioners, computer printers, and furniture. A young militia fighter rode on a red bicycle, gleefully shouting: "I always dreamed of having a bike like this as a kid."


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/ ... =worldNews
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Re: Did Tikrit/Mosul say free them destroy homes steal prope

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:14 pm

We know what happened it Tikrit and what the Shi'ite militia has done in places such as Fallujah

We know how terrified the people of Mosul must be

Whatever happens in Mosul the Sunni will NEVER forgive the Shite/Shia - better to just call them the SHIT SHIA :ymdevil:

The international community does not have the right become involved in an internal conflict

The international community were not there to help the Sunni when they were being attacked by the SHIT SHIA following the overthrow of Saddam Hussain

Saddam Hussain was evil - his family were evil - his slaughter of Kurds was the worst thing to happen in peace time

Saddam Hussain deserved to be removed - but he should have been removed due to the Kurdish genocide - not because he wanted to sell Iraqi oil through an independent oil bourse instead of the US X(

In 2000 Saddam Hussein insisted Iraq's oil be sold for Euros instead of through America for petrodollars


Nor did the entire Sunni population deserve to suffer because of him

Where were the international community when innocent Sunni wives were being arrested, tortured, raped and murdered at the hands of the barbaric SHIT SHIA X(

The continuing destruction of Sunni towns will do nothing to solve the everyday conflict between the Sunni and Shit Shia

NEVER FORGET:

ISIS were originally seen as saviours by the Sunni

Sunni follow the strict Sharia Law ideology as practised in Saudi Arabia

Both US and UK sell arms to Saudi - Saudi Arabia is the UK's best customer

Saudi supports ISIS and are suspected of providing them with weapons

UK and US provide some of the weapons ISIS will be using to fight the coalition with

IN SIMPLE TERMS:

ISIS will be fighting UK and US with the weapons we have provided :shock:
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Re: Did Tikrit/Mosul say free them destroy homes steal prope

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:18 pm

This is what Tikrit experienced - this is what Mosul expects

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After Iraqi forces take Tikrit, a wave of looting and lynching

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A vehicle belonging to Shi’ite militia fighters pulls the body of an Islamic State fighter, who was killed during clashes with Iraqi forces, in Tikrit April 1, 2015.

On April 1, the city of Tikrit was liberated from the extremist group Islamic State. The Shi'ite-led central government and allied militias, after a month-long battle, had expelled the barbarous Sunni radicals.

Then, some of the liberators took revenge.

Near the charred, bullet-scarred government headquarters, two federal policemen flanked a suspected Islamic State fighter. Urged on by a furious mob, the two officers took out knives and repeatedly stabbed the man in the neck and slit his throat. The killing was witnessed by two Reuters correspondents.

The incident is now under investigation, interior ministry spokesman Brigadier General Saad Maan told Reuters.

Since its recapture two days ago, the Sunni city of Tikrit has been the scene of violence and looting. In addition to the killing of the extremist combatant, Reuters correspondents also saw a convoy of Shi'ite paramilitary fighters – the government's partners in liberating the city – drag a corpse through the streets behind their car.

Local officials said the mayhem continues. Two security officers, speaking on condition of anonymity, said on Friday that dozens of homes had been torched in the city. They added that they had witnessed the looting of stores by Shi'ite militiamen.

Later Friday, Ahmed al-Kraim, head of the Salahuddin Provincial Council, told Reuters that mobs had burned down "hundreds of houses" and looted shops over the past two days. Government security forces, he said, were afraid to confront the mobs. Kraim said he left the city late Friday afternoon because the situation was spinning out of control.

"Our city was burnt in front of our eyes. We can't control what is going on," Kraim said.

It wasn't supposed to be this way. Islamic State, an Al Qaeda offshoot that arose from the chaos in Iraq and Syria, slaughtered thousands and seized much of northern and central Iraq last year. The government offensive was meant not only to dislodge the group but also to transcend the fundamental divide in fractured Iraq: the enmity between the now-ruling Shi'ite majority and the country's formerly dominant Sunni minority.

Officials close to Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi, a moderate Shi'ite, had described the Tikrit campaign as a chance to demonstrate his government's independence from one source of its power: Iraqi Shi'ite militias backed by Shi'ite Iran and advised by Iranian military officers. Sunnis deeply mistrust and fear these paramilitaries, accusing them of summary executions and vandalism. But Abadi has had to rely on the Shi'ite militias on the battlefield, as Iraq's regular military deserted en masse last summer in the Islamic State onslaught.

The militia groups spearheaded the start of the Tikrit assault in early March. But after two weeks of fighting, Abadi enforced a pause. Asserting his power over the Shi'ite militias, he called in U.S. airstrikes.

Now, the looting and violence in Tikrit threaten to tarnish Abadi's victory. It risks signaling to Sunni Iraqis that the central government is weak and not trustworthy enough to recapture other territory held by Islamic State, including the much larger city of Mosul. Tikrit, hometown of the late dictator Saddam Hussein, is in the Sunni heartland of Iraq.

At stake is much more than future votes: Islamic State's rapid conquests in 2014 were made possible by support from Sunni tribal forces and ordinary citizens. They were convinced that the government – under Abadi's predecessor, Nuri al-Maliki – viewed their community as terrorists. If Sunnis dislike what they see in Tikrit, they may not back the government's efforts against Islamic State.

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Re: Did Tikrit/Mosul say free them destroy homes steal prope

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:52 pm

Background to the Iraq conflict:

In 1971, as it became clearer and clearer that the U.S Government would not be able to buy back its dollars in gold, it made in 1972-73 an iron-clad arrangement with Saudi Arabia to support the power of the House of Saud in exchange for accepting only U.S. dollars for its oil. The rest of OPEC was to follow suit and also accept only dollars. Because the world had to buy oil from the Arab oil countries, it had the reason to hold dollars as payment for oil. Because the world needed ever increasing quantities of oil at ever increasing oil prices, the world’s demand for dollars could only increase. Even though dollars could no longer be exchanged for gold, they were now exchangeable for oil.

The economic essence of this arrangement was that the dollar was now backed by oil. As long as that was the case, the world had to accumulate increasing amounts of dollars, because they needed those dollars to buy oil. As long as the dollar was the only acceptable payment for oil, its dominance in the world was assured, and the American Empire could continue to tax the rest of the world. If, for any reason, the dollar lost its oil backing, the American Empire would cease to exist. Thus, Imperial survival dictated that oil be sold only for dollars. It also dictated that oil reserves were spread around various sovereign states that weren’t strong enough, politically or militarily, to demand payment for oil in something else. If someone demanded a different payment, he had to be convinced, either by political pressure or military means, to change his mind.

The man that actually did demand Euro for his oil was Saddam Hussein in 2000. At first, his demand was met with ridicule, later with neglect, but as it became clearer that he meant business, political pressure was exerted to change his mind. When other countries, like Iran, wanted payment in other currencies, most notably Euro and Yen, the danger to the dollar was clear and present, and a punitive action was in order. Bush’s Shock-and-Awe in Iraq was not about Saddam’s nuclear capabilities, about defending human rights, about spreading democracy, or even about seizing oil fields; it was about defending the dollar, ergo the American Empire. It was about setting an example that anyone who demanded payment in currencies other than U.S. Dollars would be likewise punished.

Two months after the United States invaded Iraq, the Oil for Food Program was terminated, the Iraqi Euro accounts were switched back to dollars, and oil was sold once again only for U.S. dollars. No longer could the world buy oil from Iraq with Euro. Global dollar supremacy was once again restored. Bush descended victoriously from a fighter jet and declared the mission accomplished—he had successfully defended the U.S. dollar, and thus the American Empire.
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