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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:48 pm

@cewlik

Why do i even talk to you? You are just an immature kid.
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:24 pm

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alan131210 wrote:@Roytuna12 you troll, how old are you? your avatar shows your only 10, just go back to your scummy iraqi ssc hang-out you iraqi troll, this is no place for filthy people. i smell a troll from a miles away specially if he/she is a ssc troll, you have been reported.

Dont worry mate i like your avatar its too much fanatasy :)


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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:27 pm

Roytuna12 wrote:http://rt.com/news/iraq-arms-cancel-russia-396/


You make it sound like this deal will destroy us :lol: Maliki can beef up his army, while iraqi civilians are dying of hunger, though that won't be enough to destroy our Peshmerga ;)
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:49 pm

@futur of middle east joke of the year.

Im not making anything im just posting a link that related to this thread.
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:59 pm

Roytuna12 wrote:@futur of middle east joke of the year.

Im not making anything im just posting a link that related to this thread.


Nobody forces you to accept Greater Kurdistan, infact go back to your sh*thole Iraq, i'll bet people there will recieve you well ;)
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: Kure Kurda! » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:08 pm

Everybody take it easy, wtf its feels like his a sheep in our wolf cave.
lets him say what ever he want but we can insult him for that.
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:10 pm

What are you on about ? He just called my kurdish lands a fantasy!? Are you another one of those "half Kurds" out their who hates Kurds !? Please cut the BS, so no thanks the troll belongs to SSC racist hang out so he should be f...ed off back to there.

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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: Kure Kurda! » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:20 pm

alan131210 wrote:What are you on about ? He just called my kurdish lands a fantasy!? Are you another one of those "half Kurds" out their who hates Kurds !? Please cut the BS, so no thanks the troll belongs to SSC racist hang out so he should be f...ed off back to there.

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WTF man... now you attacking me like if iam a iraqi?
Iam just saying we cant witch hunt everyone in this forum for having different views.
And we cant ban every troll, we have to argue with them then ban them AND then burn them :D
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:41 pm

Kure Kurda! wrote:
alan131210 wrote:What are you on about ? He just called my kurdish lands a fantasy!? Are you another one of those "half Kurds" out their who hates Kurds !? Please cut the BS, so no thanks the troll belongs to SSC racist hang out so he should be f...ed off back to there.

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WTF man... now you attacking me like if iam a iraqi?
Iam just saying we cant witch hunt everyone in this forum for having different views.
And we cant ban every troll, we have to argue with them then ban them AND then burn them :D


sorry kake gyan i really am #-o i didnt look at your username, my apologies. but once a troll crosses the line and insults great kurdistan he needs to be stopped from polluting the site, i have reported him few times lets see what our admin does for us !
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:17 am

alan131210 wrote:What are you on about ? He just called my kurdish lands a fantasy!? Are you another one of those "half Kurds" out their who hates Kurds !? Please cut the BS, so no thanks the troll belongs to SSC racist hang out so he should be f...ed off back to there.

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I hope you know what racists mean?
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: Roytuna12 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:21 am

RawandKurdistani wrote:
Roytuna12 wrote:@futur of middle east joke of the year.

Im not making anything im just posting a link that related to this thread.


i'll bet people there will recieve you well ;)

Aleast better than you :)
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:57 am

Roytuna12 wrote:
alan131210 wrote:What are you on about ? He just called my kurdish lands a fantasy!? Are you another one of those "half Kurds" out their who hates Kurds !? Please cut the BS, so no thanks the troll belongs to SSC racist hang out so he should be f...ed off back to there.

Trolls are popping up everywhere they are taking advantage of having no mod, we need KAK taslor back.

I hope you know what racists mean?


first of all you called my kurdish lands which were divided by people who think exactly like you a 'fantasy' so i would not do that AGAIN if i were you.
2nd i do know what been racist means, i learned it from mr iraq, euphrates , haiderpass and so on, on ssc racist iraqi hang out , and i am sure you are also part of that racist ring yourself so no need to play the innocent card on me kid.

or maybe that iraqi guy who punched me in the face when i was only 10 years old at kirkuk-suli check point?
or maybe how my family were kicked out of kirkuk for refusing to be baathie which now your great leader milky boy has proudly formed an operation command for them and called dijla?
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picture of baathie leader of dijla command (formed by milky) smoking cigar behind saddam but now smokes cigarette!

or does halabja and anfal ring your hollow head any bells?
how kurdish lands to this day sliced off from the rest of kurdistan and you guys keep rejecting to have them peacefully re-join their mother lands of kurdistan?
or the other 100 reasons why kurds have a good right to hate been attached to a country called iraq which is a britsh and french project in the first place?
or maybe how ur great leader iranian muppet tried to invade zaxo border point of south kurdistan with western kurdistan?

please cut the BS, your not welcomed amongst us, there is no iraqi that likes kurds in the slightest way do not tell me your special, your most special iraqi was shaytan who only supports kurdish independence as he thinks kurdistan is a cancer on iraq.

so would you kindly GTFO or you just want me to make it a hell for u every time you post and pollute this only kurdish online and lovely forum?
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Iraq to renegotiate massive Russia weapons deal

PostAuthor: Anthea » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:36 pm

Iraq to renegotiate massive Russia weapons deal

Government spokesman says Baghdad will renegotiate with Moscow to put end to suspicions of corruption in arms deal.

BAGHDAD - Iraq will renegotiate a massive weapons deal with Russia, a spokesman said on Monday, after Baghdad cancelled a $4.2 billion agreement that would have made Moscow Iraq's biggest supplier after the US.

The cancellation on account of graft concerns of the initial deal, announced last month while Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki was visiting Moscow, was a setback for Russia's attempts to firm up its slipping foothold in the Middle East and also threw into doubt efforts by Iraq to equip its armed forces.

He said Iraq's National Security Council had decided on Sunday to "fully renegotiate" with Moscow, and had formed a new committee to do so.

"It will renegotiate with Russia to put an end to suspicions of corruption in the weapons deal," Dabbagh said.

Maliki's spokesman said on Saturday that the deal valued at more than $4.2 billion (3.3 billion euros) had been cancelled because of suspicions of corruption.

Had the announced deal been finalised and implemented, it would have made Russia Baghdad's biggest arms supplier after the United States.

Russian media said the deliveries covered 30 Mi-28 attack helicopters and 42 Pantsir-S1 surface-to-air missile systems.

Discussions were also said to be underway for Iraq's eventual acquisition of a large batch of MiG-29 fighters and helicopters, along with heavy weaponry.

The statement announcing the deals said they were secretly discussed as early as April and revisited again in July and August during visits to Russia by Iraqi delegations that included acting Defence Minister Saadun al-Dulaimi.


http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=55441

Unfortunately, I am afraid it might be true X(

It has been rumoured for a long time that Iraq is intending to take further action against SK

I think that KURDS in SK should act NOW and declare a totally FREE INDEPENDENT GREAT KURDISTAN :ymparty:
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:46 pm

Maliki-Gate 13.11.2012
By Hiwa Osman — Ekurd.net

Those who saw the picture released by the prime minister’s office of Nuri al-Maliki inspecting fighter jets by knocking on the metal body of the plane should not be surprised that he has decided to halt the deal out of suspicion of corruption.

The picture should have sounded alarm bells for the Russians, Czechs and people of Iraq. He seemed like a man shopping for a car in a sales lot, not a head of state buying strategic weapons. From the start, the deal did not seem to have been examined well or to have gone through the proper procurement procedures.

Former chief of staff Kamaran Qaradaghi told me that a reliable source in Baghdad said the two sides were to put their final signatures on the deal during Maliki’s visit to Moscow.

When meeting with Vladimir Putin, Maliki expressed a wish for the price to be lowered. Putin replied that there was usually a margin for that but, as he understood it, the Iraqi team had already asked for a lowering of prices on Maliki’s behalf.

The source adds that Maliki wanted names. Putin said he would send the director of the state-owned company responsible for the deal. At this point, Maliki said the deal should be postponed until further notice.

Maliki is now stuck between two decisions. If he goes ahead with the deal, it will be clear that some of those close to him and to the minister of defense have made a fortune in commission,www.ekurd.net as his advisor and various political parties have said.

If he decides to stop the deal, it would be a major blow to him, not to mention his reputation and his government’s as businessmen.

Russia Today, the country’s official news channel, ran a report quoting a Russian military expert saying “if the deal gets axed, it would be an unprecedented event in the history of Russia’s arms trade.”

Igor Korotchenko, the director of the Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade, adds, “Self-respecting states and governments don’t act this way.”

Russia’s official news agency RIA Novosti quoted an unnamed arms expert who warned that Iraq may incur harsh sanctions over the move: “If the deals were drawn up in a proper way from a legal point of view, the Iraqi side may suffer multimillion dollar losses by paying off punitive fees.”

The expert added that suspected corruption has never been a legitimate basis for the annulment of contracts, especially in military-technical cooperation.

Maliki could turn this fiasco into an opportunity to regain some of what he has lost with these recent decisions, he was enticed into a shopping spree, which demonstrated a clear lack of judgment.

There is an opportunity to reconsider his actions and clean up his operations by demonstrating that he is against corruption, wherever it is. He should allow a truly independent investigation into the case and depoliticize it.

Events have shown that the main enemy to Iraq, and the most difficult one to tackle, is corruption. It is the one phenomenon that crosses all ethnic and sectarian boundaries. If Maliki decides to take the matter further, he will find out that there are many business partners who are on either side of the political, ethnic and sectarian divide.

He will find that there were people on his trip that had no reason to be there apart from cutting illegal deals. This and much more information would be revealed if a proper independent investigation was conducted into the case.

If this happens, and Maliki takes responsibility for errors in judgment and sends those involved to justice, he could have the legacy of putting the country back on track and would be able to silence many of his adversaries. In short, this is a make or break juncture for him.

In a democracy, the suspected officials named are usually removed temporarily from their posts pending the outcome of the investigation. In this case, nothing has happened yet.
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Re: Iraq confirms canceling the Russian weapons deal

PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:12 pm

Roytuna12 wrote:
alan131210 wrote:What are you on about ? He just called my kurdish lands a fantasy!? Are you another one of those "half Kurds" out their who hates Kurds !? Please cut the BS, so no thanks the troll belongs to SSC racist hang out so he should be f...ed off back to there.

Trolls are popping up everywhere they are taking advantage of having no mod, we need KAK taslor back.

I hope you know what racists mean?


Racism= Hating someone because they are different. And that's what your skyscraper friends are doing.

Do me a favour and remind them that Erbil, Duhok, Sulaymaniyah, Kirkuk, majority of Mosul and parts of Diyala are Kurdistan not Iraq ;) So they can stop being so proud of our constructions.
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