Iraqi Turkmen Front Publish PROPAGENDA against kurds

[dyaoko]

The following article been published by Ankara Backed Iraqi Turkmen Front:
Unfortunately, thing s didn’t go as we wished. After the fall of Baghdad and despite all assurances, Kerkuk, Mosul and other Northern towns were overrun by Kurdish militias .Hundreds of thousands of Turkmens and Assyrians were prevented from voting and hundreds of thousands of Turkmen votes were exchanged with Kurdish ones. Thus, Turkmen and Assyrian representation stayed at symbolic levels.

http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more599


I dont know how do they dare to Stick Christians to themself... ? Christians are content with kurds...
you can read this article by christians about kurds
http://northerniraq.info/news/index.php ... =1#more590

how these Fucking Turkey Backed Turkmen Front can allege taht ?

[heval]

Actually the Christian Assyrians publicized this thing about Kurds not letting them vote long before the Turkomen did. And in most Assyrian areas, including Hewler, they voted for Allawi instead of the Kurdish list...

[Diri]

Did you guys read the article that Rumtaya put out on the forum - about "Christian Kurds"?

Well - according to that one the christians who voted for Allawa are the same ones who see themselves as "Babylonian Chaldeans" - So they don't call themselves Assyrians -(Which is stupid - becasue they are Asssyrians too) - but anyway - and the "Chaldeans" are in the majority when it comes to christians in Kurdistan... And they say "I am Iraqi" but Assyrians - which are supported by KDP and who re in the minority of the two - say "I am Kurdistani"...

[Mosul]

dont ever trust the assyrians medyah, they have a right to practice their religon, but remember most of them hate kurds, and most of turkomon dont.

[Diri]

Mosul I find your words very incredible...

There is a much stronger oppostion from Turkomans that there is from Assyrians... And today I watched one and a half hour of Assyrian programs on Kurdistan TV... That was VERY interesting - I didn't understand much of what they were saying - but still - some words you DO understand... And I noticed that whomever they talked to said "I want to thank the Kurdistan Regional Goverment for helping us(e.g. rebuiling a church/bulding a new church).

And time and time again they talked of President Barzani - I didn't understand of course - but to say it "lightly" they were probably not swearing at him on his own TV channel...

The Turkoman front which has been supported by Turkey has flared a hate for Kurds among the Turkomans - and I was watching TRT INT - The national Turkish state TV - and they had reportage of Kirkuk city - they went and interviewed Turkomans and all of them were saying the same things "Kurds or no Kurds - Kirkuk is a Turkoman city and it has been for thousands of years (you know how they can exaggerate sometimes ) - and some said "The Kurds are lying - Kirkuk is Turkoman"

Conclusion----> there are pro Kurdish Assyrians and Turkoman. And there is a larger and more organized Turkoman subculture - so the Tukomans are heard across the mountains - while the Assyrians are hard to hear from - Because nobody gives them a face and a voice...

So consequently - because of the Turkoman size and strength - negative wibes from them are MUCH more damaging than those from Assyrians... And Assyrians are more likely to call themselves "Kurdistani" any day than Turkomens - they say "I am first Turkic, and second I am Iraqi"...

Assyrians are native inhabitants of Ninawa Province and are a strong factor in Mosul and the surrounding areas... They are a friendly people with a culture that is close to the Kurdish one - we have lived together since 5-6 thousands of years ago... And they are our natural allies... As the Turkoman would rather make a deal with the Big Devil (Turkey) than to be best buddies with Kurds... ANY DAY...

[Mosul]

no you are wrong diri

ofcource there are some that like kurds, i never said all of them hate kurds, but try watching the most popular assyrian channel, assyriansat, see how anti-kurdish they are, they sometimes broadcast in english, and they said that we held them back from voting. Olny the turkon front hates kurds, and they are no more then 50,000 as turkomon are cloase to half a million. if you go to one assyrian site, i frogot the site name but mabey you will reconise it its something like http://www.anina.org go to the forum and see how anti-kurdish everysingle one of the are. this one assyrian showed me the land that his people are fighitng for and it included all of west kurdistan Iraq. also dont froget that the king of all assyrians was saddams best friend and is now in the hands of the iraqi government (tariq aziz). you being a irani kurd prolly dont know much about how these assyrians are, but if you ask some other iraqi kurds on here they will tell you the same.

[Diri]

Hmmm...

I don't think I am wrong... And I don't think that the majority of Assyrians "hate" Kurds... RUMTAYA??? ARE YOU HERE - Can you answer that?

That forum you are talking about - I think I am a member there - and NOTHING has happened there for 1 month... Are we talking about the same forum Mosul?

And Mosul - there are Ashûrî in All parts of Kurdistan----> Just so you know... Maybe you Iraqi Kurds think that all Kurdistan related things are in Iraqi Kurdistan But in reality...

Regards Mosul!

[Diri]

Oh - and by the way Mosul - don't be so "black or white"... MAYBE you are right, MAYBE I am right... These types of comments are abit unnecessary:

no you are wrong diri

Advice- Perhaps you should say " I think you are wrong" or "I don't think that is right" or - "I disagree with that"....

[Mosul]

yes that is your opinion, but trust me, assyrians want all of iraqi kurdistan. they use to suck up to saddam, and now there in our land and they claim is theres. i met some and they say so many terrible things about kurds.

[doopaman]

well let me show you this forum and you can judge for yourselfe http://www.middleeastinfo.org/forum/vie ... 802223eb03

[doopaman]

Even by reading this guy's source it clearly obvious that Kurds were oppressed ethnic people

[Diri]

Don't be blinded by the few who speak of death and destruction - because they will only destroy once you believe them - believe those who speak of forgiveness and sympathy - because they will only forgive you and show sympathy once you believe them...

[heval]

There are many anti-Kurdish organizations set up by Assyrians all over the world. Many of the Assyrian groups in Iraq also worked closely with Saddam years ago, just as the Turkomen Front today works with Turkey.

Here is one website that really likes to take indirect hits at our Kurdish history. I have never read so much garbage in my life. This guy makes weak claims like because Kurds have no written original script, they are not a real official ethnic group. He goes on to say that Assyrians are the real indigenous people of Kurdistan, and that Kurds have fooled the world into believeing Northern Iraq is Kurdistan.

He is a real arrogant writer. He forgets to neglect the Kurds' Hurrian History, which existed thousands of years before the Assyrian Empire was ever established. He also fails to notice that many ancient Assyrian artwork contains the arts of Zoroastrianism - the religion of the Median Kurds - which is FURTHER proof that Kurds dominated Kurdistan long before the Assyrians ever expanded their empire to the north. And further - he blames Kurds for persecution of his people - but he fails to neglect that it was the barbaric Assyrian Empire that was persecuting Kurds and Persians long before the Kurds ever took power!

http://www.atour.am/



But anyways, I think that you guys are both correct. There are good and bad on both sides. There are some Assyrians and Turkomen who will live by the Kurds forever in peace. And there are the arrogant and racists that will forever hate us...

[Diri]

Heval - I failed to find the "ancient history section" - but I found something MUCH more fun:

Assyrians from Urmia areas (Iran) and Assyrian areas Hakkyari (Turkey) had penetrated to Caucasus and into Russia till the end of 18 century and in the beginning of 19 century, they have settled here for the first time after the Russian-Persian war in 1826-1828. Assyrians rendered the big help of Russian army, especially as the guides. For this Russian government has allowed hundred “houses”, actively participating on the side of the Russian armies, to move from Urmia areas into the Transcaucasia. In the beginning, in 1829 the immigrants had located (on many data) in Upper Karabagh. However soon Assyrians were compelled to abandon Karabakh for subsequentl lack of the foodstuffs, and fierce strongly epidemies. Assyrians had left Karabakh and moved in Erivan province. Gradually from Iran and Turkey, new groups began to be flown down and soon Assyrians had occupied in Erivan province of village Koylasar, Dvin, Gel, and in consequence Arzni.

Fun or what? This person should really check his spelling


Oops - Am I being mean? Sorry...

But yeah - there are good and bad Assyrians - and DAMN it there are some BAD Kurds and some good Kurds too... So... We have no right to show such amount of prejudice for a people who shares our fate...

[Sir Don DeCarleone]

It takes few good Kurd to whip turkish asses they same way we kicked arab asses in 60,s.
To be a turk is against my blood, thoughts, culture, etc, kill the turk.