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So people say that Apo is requesting Kerkuk and Mosul to be parts of Turkey's Misak I mili borders...

but is that really what he means? and what is the message behind?

Ramo wrote:So people say that Apo is requesting Kerkuk and Mosul to be parts of Turkey's Misak I mili borders...

but is that really what he means? and what is the message behind?

What does 'Misak I mili' mean please?

Londoner wrote:

Ramo wrote:So people say that Apo is requesting Kerkuk and Mosul to be parts of Turkey's Misak I mili borders...

but is that really what he means? and what is the message behind?

What does 'Misak I mili' mean please?

Misak-ı Milli=National pact
So me thinks it's a rumor that he's requesting that about Kerkük and Musul...
Where's the source for this?

apo. u mean is aptullah ocalan. a traitor

A traitor?? May I ask you why??

i cannot believe terorist öcalan is requesting that.

Who is APO ? Before

The guy who made the biggest problem for turkey , A problem that will last for ever and it is only three letters PKK . In that sense he is a Hero

Who is APO ? After

The weak apolagatic coward , who brought shame to himself and commited unspeakable crimes against Kurds and Kurdistan . In that sense he is a traitor

Since things are measured by the end results , he is a traitor for most Kurds , but remain a hero for few .

talsor wrote:Who is APO ? Before

The guy who made the biggest problem for turkey , A problem that will last for ever and it is only three letters PKK . In that sense he is a Hero

Who is APO ? After

The weak apolagatic coward , who brought shame to himself and commited unspeakable crimes against Kurds and Kurdistan . In that sense he is a traitor

Since things are measured by the end results , he is a traitor for most Kurds , but remain a hero for few .

Bullshificm at a high level. PKK is still Turkey's biggest problem and Apo is still a problem to Turkey ( hence they can not just kill him).

What crimes are you talking about? Were you affected by them?

HAHA. Remain a hero for FEW? Most kurdish communities in Europe are PKK communities. several million kurds in Turkey are Apocis. Not to mention the demonstrations when they ''touch'' Apo.

Don't fool yourself. You are stupid now.

Haval Ramo

1-Yes PKK is still turkey's biggest problem , I did not say otherwise ,.

2-Hundreds of high level pkk members were forced to surrender to Turkey after APO's arrest based on APO's orders from the prison and excuted by his brother , lots of PKK member were killed by PKK for questioning or refusing to surrender to turkey .

3-Once again I I completly agree with you as to how big PKK is , I never said otherwise , I suggest you read the post before getting angry .

4-You have to differantiate between PKK and APO , PKK is not APO and APO is not PKK .
APO sucks
PKK Rocks

le gal rezim

Haha Apo make sense. If I am not wrong, This is what Kemalist Goverment said at past too.. Kerkuk and Musul have turkish and kurdish majority. So These cities should become a part of Turkey.

Anyway, More Kurd in Turkey? Hmm. Most probably, Nationalist would not like it much.

zurderer wrote:Haha Apo make sense. If I am not wrong, This is what Kemalist Goverment said at past too.. Kerkuk and Musul have turkish and kurdish majority. So These cities should become a part of Turkey.

Anyway, More Kurd in Turkey? Hmm. Most probably, Nationalist would not like it much.

You do understand that Mosul and Kirkuk are no longer part of the Ottoman empire right ? I do not know how do you make sense of that , I mean how do you propose these cities to be part of Turkey ? No offence intended but This is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard .

I am not sure If You are aware that there is not ottoman empire anymore.

I was talking about past and misaki milli thing.

Zurderer is a realist, not an irredentist pan-turkic grey wolve. And that's the point Zurderer: Ocalan sounds like kemalists.

talsor wrote:Haval Ramo

1-Yes PKK is still turkey's biggest problem , I did not say otherwise ,.

2-Hundreds of high level pkk members were forced to surrender to Turkey after APO's arrest based on APO's orders from the prison and excuted by his brother , lots of PKK member were killed by PKK for questioning or refusing to surrender to turkey .

3-Once again I I completly agree with you as to how big PKK is , I never said otherwise , I suggest you read the post before getting angry .

4-You have to differantiate between PKK and APO , PKK is not APO and APO is not PKK .
APO sucks
PKK Rocks

le gal rezim

You can not differentiate between Apo and PKK. Go ask any PKK member, guerilla etc. who they follow... we both know the answer will be Apo. Apo is not a person, he is an ideology. Adopted by millions of Kurds in all parts of Kurdistan.

So when you say Apo sucks and PKK rocks, you are practically being a hypocrite or not having enough knowledge - which does not surprise me.

Haval Ramo
I agree , The shallow mentality of worshinping leaders is very deep in our history , and we both know it is due to lack of education . We live in the 21 century and when leaders make mistake in the most civilized world they are taken to court .
what APO said in the Plane ( i hope you watched the video) is unforgiving and his apology in the turkish court is a discrease to him as a Kurds . Did you watch him making his statement in the court when he got arrested ???

I say APO sucks , because he is a coward , he forced the surrender of hundered of brave PKK member to save his neck , A true leader will never do that .

le gal rezim