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What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:42 pm
Author: dyaoko
pjak is a new name in Iranian Kurdistan , they have been fighting by gun ...
I wanna know what do you think about them.
are they fighting for Kurdish rights ? or they are just fighting for PKK .
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:17 pm
Author: Barış
I think PJAK is branch of PKK. A former PJAK leader was Shapour Badoshiveh, who was in charge of western Kurdistan division within the PKK. I assume they fight for Kurdish rights and land.
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:30 pm
Author: dyaoko
dont you think they are just making the things worse for south kurdistan and also for east kurdistan ?
what has been result of their fights and what they would achive by militant fight?
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:54 am
Author: hüseyin
they fight because are terrorist. they murder and achieve nothing.
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:07 pm
Author: Barış
dyaoko wrote:dont you think they are just making the things worse for south kurdistan and also for east kurdistan ?
what has been result of their fights and what they would achive by militant fight?
Yea I think PJAK is making things worse... They think they will obtain kurdish rights and land, just like the PKK and TAK basically. The result of attacks has caused more fear, hatred and oppression of kurds. I really doubt they will achive anything by militant fighting. They are killing people for a dream that will not come true, in my opinion.
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

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Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:37 pm
Author: Diri
PJAK was created for the sole purpose of fighting the regime in Iran... It IS a branch of the PKK in a way - but at the same time, it does have a separate administration although retaining strong links to both the ideology of the PKK and the leadership of the PKK...
Personally, I don't think PJAK has contributed to improving the situation for Kurds in East Kurdistan. And I don't think it will either... There are already two Kurdish parties in East Kurdistan, which are KDPI (now divided in two new groups) and the Komele - which both have long history of advocating Kurdish rights and freedom of speech/culture/policy etc...
These two parties demand that Iran be transformed into a federal state system - which would mean they do not advocate Kurdish independence from Iran, just local administration and freedom of cultural and political rights...
I do not support military operations when there is no need for them... They should be preserved for emergenies only... When Kurdish culture is banned, when Kurdish language is banned and if the state/regime has other such extreme policies... But in Iranian Kurdistan, Kurds freely speak their language and practice their culture - and are respected for their identity, although most Iranians disagree with Kurds separating from Iran - which anyway is not the wish of all the Kurds of Iranian Kurdistan - so federalism would be the best solution either way...
PJAK in my oppinion, is there to spread APO-ideology... That's all... I don't think the leadership has pure nor noble intentions - because those are already covered by the KDPI and Komele - which both have strong political support against the current regime and the political structure of Iran (centralized government). Even many Persians and Azeris and other Iranians support these two parties because of their long standing struggle and good reputations - as well as history of being champions of democracy, rather than dictatorship and ideologies which are incompatible with the culture of the region...
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:25 pm
Author: dyaoko
I have to say I agree with diri.
so I think pjak doesnt seem something for Kurds or Kurdistan, but something for Apo !
shooting the guns for apo.
Re: What do you think about pjak ?

Posted:
Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:48 pm
Author: Vladimir
PKK used to work together with revolutionary guard in the beginning. Ocalan also said positive words about Iran. He saw Iran as an example for the struggle against American imperialism. He said that Iran shows that Islam can be used for good purposes. PJAK was just founded, because of the change of the regional balances and change of PKK ideology.