Iran opens fire on Kurdish protestors from helicopters

[Vladimir]

I already emailed Washington Post, Observer, reuters, bbc, cnn.

But AFP reported about it .. look on Kurdistani site. But its all lies of the Iranian government..

[Diri]

Heval - I am based in Bergen, Norway - and I guess there are about 1000-2500 Kurds here... But believe me in the event of a demonstration we are lucky if 200 show up...

I will however send a-mails to BA, BT, VG, Aften Posten and others here in Norway to make them aware of the situation (in case they aren't)...

And I do hope others do the same... And a msart thing could be to put in some links to good sites with lot's of info on the matter - like http://www.Kurdishmedia.com etc...

Well done Welatêmîr! You are doing a great job - now if more people send to the SAME agencies they might just open their eyes!

[Vladimir]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0, ... e_continue

Guardian opened their eyes.

[Vladimir]

Btw.. why the fuck doesnt Talabani or Barzani say something about this?

Why they prevent Komala and KDP-I peshmergas to go to Iranian Kurdistan?? All roads are closed to Rojhelat (Iranian Kurdistan)...

WHY??

Why doesnt the PKK, KDP, PUK sent their peshmergas in...

[Vladimir]

I also emailed Amnesty the day before yesterday.. maybe it resulted to this

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/document ... 54005C9EC7

Iran: Amnesty International calls for an urgent investigation into the killing of demonstrators

[heval]

Well, I don't think it would be wise for PDK or PUK to enter Iran because that would only create a whole new mess of problems. I don't think they are blocking any roads to Iran, where did you hear that?

[Vladimir]

Where did I heard that?? I heard it from Kurds from Iranian Kurdistan. According to them they are preventing KOmala and KDP-I to enter East-Kurdistan.

Also they are talking on Paltalk about this.

[heval]

Where did I heard that?? I heard it from Kurds from Iranian Kurdistan. According to them they are preventing KOmala and KDP-I to enter East-Kurdistan.

Also they are talking on Paltalk about this.

Interesting...

Well, if true, that wouldn't be surprising at all. Remember they are also opposing PJAK from using Qandil... But we'll have to wait to see if there is truth to it.

[heval]

I just saw on Kurdistan TV that there was just a demonstration in Silêmanî for Eastern Kurdistan by the intellectuals and students.

Also, they reported that KDPI has saw down to have a official meeting with the officials of KRG in Hewlêr regarding the problems in the East.

[cheryl]

Jezus christ.. why doesnt CNN report this goddamn sıowhoıwh

Kurds in Iran are always ignored by everybody.

In addition, American media tries not to report anything on any Kurds because it is not in their interest. If this thing continues, the world might actually be obligated to do something about it - and no one wants to do anything about it.

sadly, heval, all kurds are always ignored by everybody.

the american media specializes in entertainment that is passed off as news. real news is not to be had unless you have the inclination and internet access.

i noticed in the link to the article from km, it says that the rojhelatî are saying that the troops in sinne are "of turkic origin." do you suspect they are turks or azeri turks from iran?

i have been wondering where pjak has been since the murder of qadiri. as per my info, they had become part of KGK. i am really a bit surprised there have been no reports of their activity in this serhildan, but, of course, i don't know their actual status.

[Diri]

Cheryl - About those Turkic people...

The Kurds of Mehebad (and areas around) and north of it have had their share of clashes with the Ajams - they have stolen 1/4 of Kurdish lands in Eastern Kurdistan - look back in the days of Simko and before Kurds were in significant numbers in Tebriz - which is now the capital of "South" Azerbaijan Province... And Simko was fighting these people for controll of Tebriz... Just look at ethnic maps from early 20th century late 19th - Kurds were a majority in the "Azerbaijan" province and in the West Hormuz mountains...

And that is why they are using Ajams against Kurds - because Kurds have had many confrontations with them - and the Ajams are known to be ruthless against the Kurds... That is why they use them instead of ethnic Persians or others...

This can be both good and bad - the Ajams are our historical "rivals/enemies" in Eastern Kurdistan (besides the Persians) - so the Kurds will be 1) oppressed even more brutally and 2) they will show their resent and demonstrate more willingly and with more passion...

[dyaoko]

I am in rojhelat !

1- yes those soliders are Turk ! and also persian and guess what some of them are Arab, not iranian arab, some ofthem are Arabs from Syria and Lebanon

2- Vladimir , if you have followed the news you would find out, PKK has took revenge ! and promised to take more revege , PKK has killed more than 6 iranian soliders in Sine-Mariwan Road , and they are in clash with Iran.

3-I dont think it would be Wise if PUK and KDP send their soliders to fight with iran...they are busy about federalism - kirkuk ... (if they ever go to war, they should save their force to use against aarabs, to take kirkuk back) no to use against IRAn, the country which , AMERICA feels fear to attack to...(becasue of their powerfull army)

4-but at least PUK can let ppl do protest in southern kurdisatn...but PUK doenst let ppl do prtoest...and they dont iranina kurdish parties to be active . they have been in real fight with PJAK .

[cheryl]

so, Diri, i take it that you are fairly certain that these "turkic people" are from within iran itself and not from the kemalist state?

[Diri]

Yes Cheryl they are from the "Azerbaijan" Provinces - and from the Kurdish cities - Nexede, Miandoab, Urmiye, and other smaller places - and from all of the Azeri areas - Urmiye lake to Ardebil... They have gathered all the scum Pasdar they could... And they all hate Kurds VERY much... So this should from our side bee viewed upon as a REAL WAR and the casualties of the enemy are NEEDED and a way for us to show might!

I read an article a while back - when Shivan was tortured and killed - about the Ajams being brought in from the Azeri and Kurdish areas... And just so you know - there are extremely FEW Kurds who serve as policemen or other state run institutions - and they are mainly run by Ajams... Who seek independence one day too - but who first want to get some more Kurdish land under controll... So they are the worst oppertunists you can find... Scums realy...

[heval]

i have been wondering where pjak has been since the murder of qadiri. as per my info, they had become part of KGK. i am really a bit surprised there have been no reports of their activity in this serhildan, but, of course, i don't know their actual status.

Iran blamed the PKK for some of the disturbance, possibly because PJAK and PKK have been known for training in Qandil with one another...