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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:56 am

I agree with most parts.

About PYD they must respect two parts of Kurdistan flag which has been used by them (SK and EK) for almost 80 plus years, specially WK which is the smallest part of greater Kurdistan.

It's not called been a traitor it's a disrespectful behavior towards us in SK and EK.

And you NK folks dont be so quick to bash anything that's is related to Soranî script. If SK wants its currency in Soranî it has every right if one day NK wants its currency in Latin they have every right but I will be honest with you SK and EK are very very comfortable with the Soranî script and until a greater Kurdistan happens (god knows when) they will keep using Soranî script, I personally love it bcoz I have finished school with it so is the 5 mill Kurds in SK and 6.8 mill Kurds in EK also know it and use even though Iran doesn't allow it in EK.

We also are taught the Latin script in year 6 but I'll be honest with you I like the Soranî script better.

Maybe you guys do the same with NK, teach in Latin script and also have Soranî script taught on the side in one of the primary school years.

Also I think PYD and PKK will never recognize SK,EK flag thus we can never have a unified flag and currency. :)
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:37 pm

Demands for referendum on self-determination in East Kurdistan

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NEWSDESK, -- A group of Kurdish academics, artists, journalists and civil activists have declared in a statement that they demand a referendum to be implemented in East Kurdistan to decide the future administration of Kurdish people in this part of Kurdistan.

In response to the antagonistic statement of the Iranian opposition group against the agreement reached by two Kurdish political parties to launch a unified front, a number of Kurdish academics, journalists and activists demand a referendum to be conducted in East Kurdistan on self-determination of the Kurds.

The full statement as translated by Rojhelat reads as follow:

Declaration of a number of libertarian and civil activists in East Kurdistan

For the last few days since the signing of an agreement between the two Kurdish political parties of East Kurdistan (Democrat Party of Iranian Kurdistan and the Iranian Kurdistan Komele) the Iranian chauvinism has once again pointed its focal attacks on Kurdistan.

Although this agreement embodies a tiny amount of the legitimate national demands of the Kurdish nation, nevertheless it has been the subject of attacks by the Iranian authoritarian opposition. This fact exhibits the concord between this pretentious opposition and the Islamic Republic of Iran in the suppression of the legitimate rights of the Kurdish nation.

Such a scale of hostility toward an agreement which represents a minimal level of aspiration of the Kurdish nation, displays fears of the Iranian authoritarian opposition from the unity and coherence of Kurdish political parties and circles.

Hereby we the signatories of this declaration urge all Kurdistan’s parties to launch wider and stronger fronts while we are manifesting our backings for any kinds of unity and cooperation among the political parties of East Kurdistan in the struggle to realise the legitimate rights of Kurdish nation.

The antagonistic positioning of pan-Iranist spanning the rights, the lefts and communists as well as the Islamists to the [aforementioned] agreement demonstrates that hostility toward the Kurdish nation and the suppression of liberation movements of this resilient people comes at the top of these circles’ agendas. When it comes to the rights of the Kurdish nation, they would all set aside their previous disagreements and the suppression of the legitimate struggles of Kurdish nation becomes their joint and sanctified goal—whose pretext is the preservation of Iranian territorial integrity.

Therefore we have reached a conclusion that maintenance of life within the framework of Iranian borders has become impossible for the Kurdish nation, owing to the fact that the Kurdish nation has been subjected to threats from both the Islamic Republic of Iran as well as its opposition. This would mean that after the downfall of the Islamic Republic of Iran, a new cycle of suppression of the Kurdish nation by the current opposition—the Iran’s potential rulers— would break out.

Consequently, we the signatories of this declaration stress on the rights of the Kurds to self-determination and of the Kurds’ power to determine their destiny. To avoid the repetition of catastrophes that have plagued Kurdistan for the last eighty years, we call for a referendum to be implemented in Kurdistan under the supervision of the international institutions and the humanitarian foundations, in order to decide Kurdistan’s future political administration.


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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:58 am

Amid America’s Negligence: Preparations for a “Kurdish Spring”

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By Raghida Dergham
Saturday, 15 September 2012

There are increasingly clear signs that U.S. President Barack Obama absolutely refuses to direct a military strike against nuclear sites in Iran, regardless of how much Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flames up with rage and threatens with an Israeli strike which he knows full well his country does not have the capability to carry out on its own.

Obama is wagering on time running out for Netanyahu to draw the United States into getting implicated in a military operation against Iranian sites, on the eve of the American presidential election. Netanyahu feels that in case Obama is reelected for a second term, he will find himself faced with a pacifist who will evade with all his strength fulfilling the promises of abandoning the policy of “containment” of Iran, and will elude in every way he can his public pledge not to allow Iran to become a nuclear power.

Yet the question that imposes itself on the U.S. President is this: Does he have a strategy to rein in the Iranian regime other than sanctions? This is while Iran leadership continues to develop its capability to obtain nuclear weapons, continues to have ambitions of regional hegemony, and continues to violate the Security Council resolution barring it from exporting weapons to anyone in Syria and in Lebanon.

Is Barack Obama determined in his second term to adopt the wishes of the countries of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) of breaking the back of Tehran’s mullahs in the battle over Syria? This would force Iran to return to its natural size and cease its arrogance, both in terms of the nuclear issue and of the region. Or will the President in his second term – if he is reelected – head towards further enticement and appeasement, in the hope of convincing Iran’s leadership to stop enriching uranium and smuggling weapons to the regime in Damascus so that it may eradicate the Syrian opposition?

These questions are no pressing matters for American voters, at this stage of the countdown to the elections, which will take place within two months – especially as the majority of Americans do not wish to get dragged into the battles and wars of others. Nevertheless, these are questions that are pushing many to lose sleep, in the different capitals of the Middle East, because the answers to them will determine the futures of countries and peoples in the region.
Among those who find themselves worried about the ambiguity surrounding post-elections American policy is a large part of Arab, Iranian, Turkish and Israeli societies – particularly secularists, moderates, humanists and liberals. The latter are suspicious of the purpose behind the United States embracing and encouraging religious monopoly of power, on both the Shiite and Sunni sides equally, in such a way as to purposely neutralize the forces of moderation

Indeed, the United States has brought back memories in the Middle East regarding plans of partitioning states on the basis of confessions and ethnic groups – as it seems to be encouraging extremism under a fake cloak of respecting democracy.

Some minorities in the region have begun to take action with government and intellectual leaders in Washington, to convince them of adopting a strategy in support of moderation and democracy, sincerely and in effect, instead of delving deeper in their support for sectarian and confessional extremism, and in enabling dictatorship.

The Kurds are at the forefront of those who understand the American political game. This is why they made sure to head to Washington two months before the elections, to put forward their worries and concerns, and advance clear proposals to the Democratic Administration and to decision-makers in the Republican Party, in Congress and in intellectual forums.

At the Iraqi level, the Kurdish message was meant to warn against the consequences of the American-Iranian understanding over maintaining Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki in power. The language spoken by the Kurdish delegation opted to “reject Maliki’s dictatorship as much as that of Saddam Hussein”. Yet most important in this issue are the indications and the significance carried by the American-Iranian understanding to keep Nouri Al-Maliki in power.

The American justification is that, in the absence of an alternative to Maliki, there can only be political vacuum – and that vacuum is worse. This makes sense, at least at first glance, as there are in fact those who object to characterizing Maliki as “dictatorial”, as well as those who oppose the notion that Maliki is in Tehran’s pocket.

This does not, in any case, negate the fact that the U.S. Administration has kept suspiciously silent about Iran’s double-sided violation: its violation of Iraqi airspace and sovereignty to supply military aid to Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad in Damascus, whom the U.S. President has called on to step down; and its violation of a binding Security Council resolution barring Iran from exporting weapons.

Indeed, Iranian military aid is ongoing to the regime in Damascus to repress the opposition, without the U.S. Administration clearly raising its voice to demand that it be held accountable for such violations – even if the American move at the Security Council would be expected to be met with Russian objections.

The other message carried by the Kurdish delegation to Washington concerns Syria, in both the aspects of Iranian support for the regime and American-Arab support for the Muslim Brotherhood. To be sure, hidden between the folds of such support, is the fact that the role played by secularists, moderates, humanists and liberals in drafting the future of Syria is waning. The worst part is that strengthening the two camps is taking place on a sectarian basis and encouraging civil war and division – both of which are now in sight, with in fact one of them already taking place.

The conclusion reached by the Kurds, as it seems, is that ideological alliances have found their way into Syria, and that overthrowing the regime through military means is an unlikely option in anyone’s mind – be it the United States or Turkey, without cover from the North Atlantic Alliance (NATO(.

This is why the Kurds have begun preparing for what some of them are calling the “Kurdish Spring”, in the sense of a de facto uprising as had prevailed in the past, and of beginning to prepare for an exceptional and prosperous position for Kurdistan beyond the context of Iraq.

This is the first time the Kurds openly organize themselves inside of Syria, openly talk about their rights and take measures to protect themselves in the face of what they consider to be indications of de facto partitioning in Syria.

One of the means of defending against the monopoly of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafis on the Syrian opposition, in the opinion of the Kurds, is that of informing all those concerned that it is out of the question for the Kurds to remain within the ranks of the opposition, as long as its funding and support is being restricted to Islamists at the expense of liberals, secularists and minorities in Syria – Christians, Druze and others.

What the Kurds are suggesting to Washington is the necessity of building a democratic alternative, a front of moderation, and a non-religious framework in Syria before it is too late.

The core of their suggestion is the necessity of establishing an umbrella – a broad umbrella within a structure that would include the Muslim Brotherhood but would not be subjected to it, the umbrella of an alliance that would receive support from Europe and the United States for the sake of a Syria not subjected to extremism and sectarianism, and an umbrella that would spare Syria division.

The core of their message to Washington is that it is also in the interest of the United States not to delve once again into fostering fundamentalism, feeding extremism and reinforcing the impression that has begun to take shape that the United States is purposely creating sectarian, confessional and ethnic wars with the aim of fragmenting and dividing Arab countries.

The message of the Kurds is essentially based on Kurdish interests, but it is in reality equally in the interest of the Arabs, as it is in the interest of the future of US relations in the Arab region and the Middle East as a whole.

It is striking at this juncture of history that the relationship between the Turks and the Kurds, which has historically been characterized by enmity and suspicion, has lately taken a direction that almost resembles an alliance. The reason for this is growing tension in the relationship between Erbil and Baghdad of late and what this entails for the relationship between the Kurds and Iran – and also the fact that the Kurds have entered as party to overthrowing the regime in Damascus.

Also striking is what is happening within the context of the relations of Iraqis with their neighborhood – in the sense of the relationship held by the majority of Iraq’s Shiites with neighboring Iran, the transformation in Syria which links Iraq’s Sunnis to their immediate neighborhood in the Levant, and the development of the relationship of the Kurds to Turkey, which borders Kurdistan.

Turkey seems to be in need of a truce with the Kurds, and vice versa, each for their own particular reasons. This, in the opinion of the Kurds, represents an important foundation stone, alongside what is being produced by the events in Syria, towards a better future for Kurdish ambitions. And this is what the Kurds are working towards achieving through a coherent strategy and by working in advance with major decision-makers, instead of hiding in a corner waiting for changes to unfold in Syria or in the Arab region, as other minorities are doing.

There remains that President Barack Obama – who seems likely at this juncture to enjoy a second term – might decide to listen to the message about the necessity of realizing the perils of encouraging religious extremism, which extends from the Salafis to the mullahs in Tehran. If only he would!

He is perhaps right to resist having the United States drawn by Benjamin Netanyahu into taking military action inside Iran, but he would be terribly wrong to adopt a policy of absolving Iran of what it is doing in Syria. He must choose between incapacitating Iran militarily though American action that would meet Israel’s desire, and reining it in strategically through means available to him in Syria. But he cannot continue to hide behind the finger of enticing Tehran, while Iran’s leadership promises to slap him in the face with all five fingers.

(Raghida Dergham is a columnist at Dar al-Hayat, where this article was first published Sept 14, 2012)

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:43 am

seems he is not bluffing after all

President Barzani :Kurds will decide if the Baghdad government tended to dictatorship

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22/Sep/2012

PNA - The Kurdistan regional president Massoud Barzani that Iraq is going through a sensitive stage which should abide by the constitution, while noting that the people of Kurdistan region decision if the federal government moved towards dictatorship and individual.

Yesterday President Barzani during his participation in the World Conference of the parties and the parties of democracy, in the Italian capital Rome, saying that “the struggle of the Kurdish people for freedom led to a go a long way and important role in nation-building, as it has been installed all the rights and duties of all other components in the region through the law and constitutional institutions. ”

He added that “the Kurdistan region put forward after 2003 the nature and form of the relations within the framework of the constitution, which proved the rights and duties of both the province and the federal government within the federal system and on the basis of consensus and genuine partnership and balance.”

Noting that “Iraq is passing through a sensitive stage and the policy of the province towards a clear and transparent, as long as committed Iraq to democracy and the Constitution as long as we were part of the federal system,” stressing at the same time that “the people of Kurdistan will not live under the shadow of a dictatorial regime, if not adhered to the Government of Iraq to the Constitution and headed toward dictatorship and individual then will the people of Kurdistan another decision. ”

Pres.Barzani concluded his speech by saying, “We affirm our support for a just solution to the problem of the Kurdish people in all other parts of Kurdistan and a democratic and peaceful manner is far from violence.”
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PostAuthor: zaxo10 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:24 am

President Barzani :Kurds will decide if the Baghdad government tended to dictatorship..

Bla bla bla... same words all the time... :(

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PostAuthor: zaxo10 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:25 am

President Barzani :Kurds will decide if the Baghdad government tended to dictatorship..

Bla bla bla... same words all the time... :(

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PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:38 am

zaxo10 wrote:President Barzani :Kurds will decide if the Baghdad government tended to dictatorship..

Bla bla bla... same words all the time... :(


sadly yes, the oil payment solution is probably a fake and part of an unofficial agreement with bagdhad to hide that it was only a bluff.

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:32 pm

Washington reveals new map of the world, including "Greater Kurdistan"

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New York Times (NYT) widespread American newspaper predicted on Monday, the emergence of the " Greater state of Kurdistan" among a number of emerging countries on the new political map of the world.

The newspaper said in its opinion, prepared by the journalists, Frank Jacob and Barak Kana, under the title "The New World", in a comparison between the years after the fall of the former Soviet Union and the first years of the atheist twenty century, that " new states will appear inevitably in the beginning of the atheist twenty century, as well as the union of some other countries in consolidated entities.”

The Newspaper talked about "the emergence of the greater State of Kurdistan among many other countries that will appear during these years," adding that "the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq has left a weak point of decision-making in Baghdad, as well as the likelihood of the occur of civil war in Syria, which urges to constitute a new political map in the region.”

NYT stated that "This is one of rare opportunities that did not recur for more than three thousand years of the Kurds history", stressing “the increasing likelihood of having independent Kurdish state."

The newspaper noted “to the presence Kurdish people in northern Iraq and the Kurdish flag-raising in it , more than the other Kurdish areas, " stressing that" Kurds in Iraq have been able to sign contracts with major global companies such as Exxon Mobil and many Turkish companies. "

"Greater Kurdistan” is a political term used by Kurds nationalists to a large geographical area extended in several countries including the Kurds as that includes four main parts called Turkish Kurdistan, Iranian Kurdistan, Iraqi Kurdistan and Kurdistan Syria, in addition to small outskirts of southern border of Armenia.

Iran and Iraq recognizes the Kurdish region on its territories; while Syria and Turkey doesn’t.

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To Iran’s west, Iraq remains on the brink as American forces withdraw and the political center in Baghdad remains fragile. As Syria descends into civil war, the entire post- World War I map of the Middle East may need to be redrawn. Rarely in the Kurds’ 3,000-year history has the possibility of an independent Kurdish homeland been closer than today. The Kurdistan Regional Government is by far the country’s most stable sector, flying its own flag and cutting energy and infrastructure deals on its own with Exxon and Turkish firms.

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PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:50 pm

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IT has been just over 20 years since the collapse of the Soviet Union and the last great additions to the world’s list of independent nations. As Russia’s satellite republics staggered onto the global stage, one could be forgiven for thinking that this was it: the end of history, the final major release of static energy in a system now moving very close to equilibrium. A few have joined the club since — Eritrea, East Timor, the former Yugoslavian states, among others — but by the beginning of the 21st century, the world map seemed pretty much complete.

Now, though, we appear on the brink of yet another nation-state baby boom. This time, the new countries will not be the product of a single political change or conflict, as was the post-Soviet proliferation, nor will they be confined to a specific region. If anything, they are linked by a single, undeniable fact: history chews up borders with the same purposeless determination that geology does, as seaside villas slide off eroding coastal cliffs. Here is a map of what could possibly be the world’s newest international borders.

An Independent Kurdistan

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To Iran’s west, Iraq remains on the brink as American forces withdraw and the political center in Baghdad remains fragile. As Syria descends into civil war, the entire post- World War I map of the Middle East may need to be redrawn. Rarely in the Kurds’ 3,000-year history has the possibility of an independent Kurdish homeland been closer than today. The Kurdistan Regional Government is by far the country’s most stable sector, flying its own flag and cutting energy and infrastructure deals on its own with Exxon and Turkish firms.

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The map of greater Kurdistan is too small (does'nt even get close to the sea)
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PostAuthor: Kurdistano » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:34 pm

The map is bullcrap it doesnt even show most Kurdish areas in Syria.

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PostAuthor: hevalo27 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:47 pm

time that it happens, i can wait, slowly i becomes nervous, no joke, i want independence now, not next year and not tomorrow

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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:50 am

i dont think they show that map forcing it on us, its just a map they prob found on google.
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PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:33 pm

alan131210 wrote:i dont think they show that map forcing it on us, its just a map they prob found on google.


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PostAuthor: RawandKurdistani » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:21 pm

[quote="alan131210"]Washington reveals new map of the world, including "Greater Kurdistan"

Do they actually mean greater Kurdistan or just south Kurdistan?
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PostAuthor: alan131210 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:53 pm

Well they speak of SK but WK is also free and sooner or later EK will be too leaving us with one part the hardest part NK.
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