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Postby talsor » Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:34 pm

A 15-year-old girl who was arrested at a demonstration in support of a banned Kurdish group has been jailed in Turkey for nearly eight years after being convicted of "terrorist" offences, including allegedly throwing stones at police.
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The case comes amid renewed scrutiny of Turkey's human rights record after it was named as the worst violator of the 47 signatory states to the European convention of human rights.

The girl, a Turkish Kurd who has been named only as Berivan, was detained in the south-eastern city of Batman last October at a rally for the banned Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which is regarded by Turkey, the US and EU as a terrorist group.

A court in Diyarbakir found her guilty of "crimes on behalf of an illegal organisation" after prosecutors alleged she had hurled stones and shouted slogans. She was also convicted of attending "meetings and demonstrations in opposition to the law" and "spreading propaganda for an illegal organisation" despite claiming in court that she did not know what the word propaganda means.

In her defence, the girl denied throwing stones or being part of the demonstration but said she had only stopped to watch it out of curiosity, while on her way to visit an aunt. She was arrested after police mistook her for a demonstrator, she said. She had confessed to the crimes only after being beaten in custody.

In an emotional letter published by the Turkish newspaper, Star, the girl said she had been visiting Batman on a ­family holiday and pleaded to be released. "I want to get out of here. I want to be with my ­family. I always cry here. I cannot get used to this," she wrote. "I have been in jail since 9 October. My heart hurts and I miss my family so much."

As she heard her daughter being ­sentenced, Berivan's mother exclaimed in court: "Did she murder? ­­The ­murderers are not sentenced to such a long prison term."

The initial 13-and-a-half-year sentence was later reduced on appeal to seven years and nine months because of her age.

The conviction highlights Turkey's practice of jailing children for terror-related offences under counter-terrorism legislation introduced in 2006. The law allows courts to try juveniles as adults and to jail them for up to 50 years. Recent official figures revealed that there are currently 2,622 minors in Turkish prisons.

Some 737 minors have been charged under the counter-terrorism legislation since its introduction, according to the Diyarbakir Human Rights Association. Out of 267 tried in the city last year, 78 were given extended jail terms. Last November, a prosecutor demanded sentences of 23 years each for six youths, aged 13 and 14, who were charged with throwing stones and Molotov cocktails.

Campaigners say many of those jailed have been wrongly accused and condemn the convictions as a breach Turkey's obligations as a signatory to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

While most of those jailed are boys, an additional building was recently opened at a prison in Diyarbakir to hold girls aged under 18 who are convicted of participating in banned demonstrations.

Last week, Turkey was identified as the worst violator of the European convention on human rights between 1959 and 2009. According to figures released by the European court of human rights, the country accounted for almost 19% of all violations, with 2,295 judgements issued against it. Turkey also had the highest proportion of violations in 2009, making up 347 out of 1,625 negative rulings. The most common violation was the denial of the right to a fair trial. Turkey also had 30 rulings against it following complaints of inhumane or degrading treatment.

• This article was amended on 1 February 2010 to clarify that the jailed teenager is a Turkish Kurd.
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Kulka » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:17 pm

i cant find words for that.....

when i saw the title of the post my first thought was - for how long are murderers sentenced? and after that i read that her mother asked the same question.

be strong Berivan, our dearest sister, i will prey for you - you are great, brave kurdish girl - you are winner, they are loosers, coz the only one thing that they can do is to show their cowardly "power" over kids. Go to mountains, Turks and face our gerillas! go and try to put in prison any of them!

SHAME ON YOU, TURKISH PEOPLE!!! BIG SHAME!!!
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby LeylaE » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:41 am

That ain't right! That girl should be released!
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby κє¢ê ∂îиê 63 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:05 pm

talsor wrote:
In an emotional letter published by the Turkish newspaper, Star, the girl said she had been visiting Batman on a ­family holiday and pleaded to be released. "I want to get out of here. I want to be with my ­family. I always cry here. I cannot get used to this," she wrote. "I have been in jail since 9 October. My heart hurts and I miss my family so much."

As she heard her daughter being ­sentenced, Berivan's mother exclaimed in court: "Did she murder? ­­The ­murderers are not sentenced to such a long prison term."



Berîvan is just 15 jears old, but going to be 23 years old, when she's being released from prison. does it serve her right? just for throwing stones?
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby delshad1986 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:29 am

What a beautiful Girl. I cant believe this is a democratic country and it gets the backing of \ western countries. This is why we fight. I dont believe in violence. especially in this age. but there are special times and circumstances.
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Barış » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:34 pm

delshad1986 wrote:What a beautiful Girl. I cant believe this is a democratic country and it gets the backing of \ western countries. This is why we fight. I dont believe in violence. especially in this age. but there are special times and circumstances.

Yea, I agree, sometimes violence is the only way to obtain freedom when peaceful methods aren't effective...

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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Kulka » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:04 pm

rastakat kak Baris - i said exactly the same to my brothers on one website, where we have a group of almost 200 people - called "free Kurdistan" - the website itself is not very much valuable, coz its mainly for something like "dating", but i have account there, coz of many kurdish people (most of them living in UK, but also sweeden and other european countries), i must say that some of them are looking only for having fun with girls (but on the other hand its normal, these boys are young and want to injoy life, we have to forgive them), but there are also a lot of great, serious people, who are wonderful internet friends. there are more than 400 kurds on my friends list. so last week i invite them to join "free kurdistan" group and till now more than 100 joined us, that made me feel happy. i hope it will be more members.
i also sent the link to this topic to all of them - people should know whats going on.
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby kurdimemin_diako » Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:57 pm

Turkey is our biggest enemy
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Barış » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:49 pm

kurdimemin_diako wrote:Turkey is our biggest enemy

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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Feyli_kord » Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:37 pm

We should punish the turkomans for this transagression.
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby eg0u61c9 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:54 pm

Feyli_kord wrote:We should punish the turkomans for this transagression.


Punish the Turkmen, are you kidding me man!!! They are asking for Hawler and kerkuk. If it's to our puppet politcians in the central government, both cities will be given to them right away so they can stay a bit longer in the puppety business!

The real problem is among us, we need to prison, eliminate and even execute any Kurds who calls PKK, PJak and Peshemrga terrorist. Once this done, we can be united and things can be done effectively against our enemies!
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Barış » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:43 am

Feyli_kord wrote:We should punish the turkomans for this transagression.

Could ya be more detailed on the reason why? :?
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby talsor » Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:18 am

eg0u61c9 wrote:
Feyli_kord wrote:We should punish the turkomans for this transagression.


Punish the Turkmen, are you kidding me man!!! They are asking for Hawler and kerkuk. If it's to our puppet politcians in the central government, both cities will be given to them right away so they can stay a bit longer in the puppety business!


Hevali hija

I understand how you feel , but violence is never the only answer , it goes hand in hand with diplomacy . The Civil approach is the only reason we have what we have in Southren Kurdistan . We could have done to Arabs what they did to us in Halabja , Barzan and Anfal after the fall of Saddam but we did not , because I think we are much better than that .

Life my friend is a cycle , what goes around comes around . The Arabs killed 200 thousand Kurds during Anfal campgain and destroyed 3000 villages , In Return their entire country was destroyed and more than a million killed by the American ,more than 3 million displaced and their daughters are working as prostitutes in Syria and Jordon . do you see my point ?

Majority of Turkman are peaceful people and they want to live KRG region . Do not let Turkish propaganda and their Turkman front Puppets fool you . Killing turkman is exacly what they want you to do to have a valid reason for interferace and possible destruction of KRG region and they have the power to do it if they can get the international support .
Kurdistan is not for Kurds only , It is a home for every peace loving person wether they are christain , Yazidi , turkman or Kurd .

We can not claim being discriminated against if we do what our enemies did to us , that will make us as bad as them


eg0u61c9 wrote:[

The real problem is among us, we need to prison, eliminate and even execute any Kurds who calls PKK, PJak and Peshemrga terrorist. Once this done, we can be united and things can be done effectively against our enemies!


Once this is done , You will have successfully build a dictatorship very very similar to Saddam's regim . Is that what you want ? . People are free to voice their opinion , it is called democracy and to be honest I'm yet to see a single Kurd who will call PKK, Pjak or Peshmergas a terrorist !!!
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby Kulka » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:00 am

i fully agree with you kak Talsor.
thats true i also never heard any kurd who will call our freedom fighters - terrorist - but - few times i heard kurdish people talking not nice way about PKK, yet still i hope they are not in fact against them.
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Re: 15 years old Kurdish girl sentenced to 8 years

Postby eg0u61c9 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:44 am

eg0u61c9 wrote:[

The real problem is among us, we need to prison, eliminate and even execute any Kurds who calls PKK, PJak and Peshemrga terrorist. Once this done, we can be united and things can be done effectively against our enemies!


taslor wrote:[

Once this is done , You will have successfully build a dictatorship very very similar to Saddam's regim . Is that what you want ? . People are free to voice their opinion , it is called democracy and to be honest I'm yet to see a single Kurd who will call PKK, Pjak or Peshmergas a terrorist !!!


I never asked to stop people of expressing them self. What i meant was, if our puppet politicians are incapable of doing their work and put their personal interests before our national interest. They must be removed and taken to court because people have voted for them and they are fully responsible of what happens to us.

Is it dictatorship to punish people who publically support Saleh Mutlaq ( a filthy Baathist who boycotted the election in entire Iraq except Kerkuk just to stop the city coming back to us) all iraq stood against Mutlaq, while Talabani and BArzani publically and secretly expressing their love and support for this man! Congratulations to both of YOU now!!!!

Is it dictatorship to punish people who have stolen billions of dollars. Responsible of several civil wars where thousands of Kurds have died for no reasons. If you say a word against their will,you will be disappeared for life..........Is this dictatorship to stand against this people!!!!


I have a feeling that almost everyone in this forum looking at kurdistan's situation in one dimension. to see the real problem go to Kurdistan and experience it for yourself.

Peace, peace peace and peaceful way. OK, this works with people who lives in the 21 century and have tolernace not the ones who are still living and dreaming in the 17th century and Ottoman empire times!!!!

I have always believed that Kurdistan is not only for Kurds and its a country for every peace loved human being in this planet and i hurt badly when i see people are suffering in Baghdad and elsewhere. We must respect every ethnic group in Kurdistan and everyone must have the same right regardless to their belief and backgrounds.

What i have said and will always say. Every honest human being must be rewarded and respected while traitors,selfish politicians need to be punished no matter who they are!!!!
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